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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 23:06:39 GMT -5
I know I’m in the minority here, but given that I believe like most that Devers is our 3b of the future, I really think we should trade Dalbec immediately in the off-season for pitching. He’s already 24, and despite his power if you can’t hit .260 in AAA I have high doubts as to the ability to hit enough at the major league level. I would move on from him ASAP while his value is high, since Chavis has already shown flashes in MLB, and is much more of an option at 2b than Dalbec would ever be. He’s not a bad prospect, but I see way more middlebrooks than Encarnacion in his future Who cares what his batting average is if he smashes a lot of home runs, draws a lot of walks, and has a very respectable OBP and OPS. He's not going to be worth a whole heck of a lot at first base. His value will plummet outside of third base. Who cares about a rocket arm at first base?
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Sale to IL
Aug 19, 2019 23:03:19 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 23:03:19 GMT -5
We don't know if there's a tear or not. What we do know is that there's enough damage to cause a PRP injection. These things either tend to be a precursor to surgery or they don't. It's most likely viewed as the last possible option before surgery, to be honest. Nothing about this is positive. I wasn't expecting it to be since we heard about the injury. 2020 for Sale is nothing but a bonus to this point. That's how I look at it. The Sox should be operating as a team that's looking past 2020. Gambling on Chris Sale coming back for 2020 and going for a title next year would be foolish and could cost this team a lot down the road. That is the glass is completely empty way of looking at it. If multiple doctors, including Andrews, see only inflammation, then I am cautiously optimistic that this is not worst case scenario. There wouldn't be a PRP injection if it was just inflammation.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 21:22:18 GMT -5
Ryan Allen was awful last year. This is actually a breath of fresh air here. This is a release to do a solid to the veteran. Allen is one of the best punters in the game for pinning teams deep which was a key to winning the Super Bowl last year so let’s relax on the he was awful stuff. He can be improved tho. He was bad last year RJP. Glad they did him a solid though. He was great here for a lot of years. He had a boot back when he was young.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 18:50:05 GMT -5
Ryan Allen released. Welcome to the Jake Bailey era. Ryan Allen was awful last year. This is actually a breath of fresh air here.
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Sale to IL
Aug 19, 2019 18:48:14 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 18:48:14 GMT -5
Ohh man, yeah PRP injections either work or they don't. Most often times they don't. Garrett Richards had the PRP and got Tommy John surgery anyways. But Andrews did not see anything but inflammation. In theory, the inflammation goes down, Sale is fine. If there was a tear, which appears not to be the case but was the case with Richards, there would be a gamble in waiting. No injury is good, but I’ve heard nothing but positives today regarding Sale for 2020. We don't know if there's a tear or not. What we do know is that there's enough damage to cause a PRP injection. These things either tend to be a precursor to surgery or they don't. It's most likely viewed as the last possible option before surgery, to be honest. Nothing about this is positive. I wasn't expecting it to be since we heard about the injury. 2020 for Sale is nothing but a bonus to this point. That's how I look at it. The Sox should be operating as a team that's looking past 2020. Gambling on Chris Sale coming back for 2020 and going for a title next year would be foolish and could cost this team a lot down the road.
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Sale to IL
Aug 19, 2019 18:19:15 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 18:19:15 GMT -5
This is where message board doctors who have never seen Sale's elbow or an MRI know more than James Andrews, the guy who invented the surgery. He's clearly the best in the world with it, so it's his opinion that matters most. Even the doctors aren't experts at predicting this. They give their best judgements and then proceed. Case and point- Raniel Raudes.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 17:28:56 GMT -5
Chris Sale is getting a PRP injection, not a great sign. Doesn't mean he needs the surgery, but it doesn't mean he doesn't not need it either. We'll need to see in 6 weeks when he's reevaluated. Ohh man, yeah PRP injections either work or they don't. Most often times they don't. Garrett Richards had the PRP and got Tommy John surgery anyways.
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Sale to IL
Aug 19, 2019 17:24:57 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 19, 2019 17:24:57 GMT -5
Sometimes inflammation is just inflammation. Agree. However, there still is going to be concern. Still could lead to a tear later. Yeah still not good, but next season might be better looking now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 18, 2019 17:59:42 GMT -5
So...67-59 after the series with Baltimore - 126 games done, 8 over .500, 36 remain. 23-13 to get to 90 wins, 26-10 to get to 93 wins. 25 games against weaker teams - taking 2/3 of them is 16 wins. 11 games against strong teams - taking half gives us 6 wins. gets us only close to 90 wins. We need to take more than that 2/3 against the weak teams to have a chance playoff chances - ESPN has us at 6.5%, 538 at 5%, Fangraphs at 6.5%, Baseball reference at 2.3% Can the team ignite and beat these long odds? With no Sale, it's going to be impossible to do all this. It's nice that they can crush the Orioles, but everyone can. What a deflating injury that was.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 18, 2019 17:48:37 GMT -5
He's probably not going to do this. I don't know why Barry Bonds needs to be compared to him. LOL, I knew you'd argue with that post. It's crazy though. He's not going to do it. No one is ever going to be a juiced up Bonds again.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 18, 2019 17:24:57 GMT -5
Opposing teams should start fining pitchers who throw Devers a strike. That's the next step in his development. Turning into Barry Bonds, walking 25% of the time. He's probably not going to do this. I don't know why Barry Bonds needs to be compared to him.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 18, 2019 11:41:47 GMT -5
The bets way to sum up this thread is-
Rusney Castillo has a future in baseball beyond this contract? That's news to me.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 18, 2019 3:05:30 GMT -5
I think Chris Sale is pitching hurt and at some point in the near future when the Sox are truly out of it he will be shut down for the year. Then next spring he will try to pitch again where the injury will really surface and he will then miss the entire year. 1 month to the day Hopefully they do the surgery in the next few weeks and he is only out through 2020 and not just shut him down and then next spring it becomes an issue early in the season and they wait even more and then do surgery come June and he misses the rest of this year, all of 2020 & doesn't come back until September of 2021. You're doing good on predictions this year my man. Lol
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 18:56:14 GMT -5
Charlie Morton and other quality pitchers disagree. Lucky for Morton, he pitches half his games in one of the biggest parks in the entire majors. I guess it's just endless stupid argument time. Blame the ballpark. When a Sox pitcher stinks. Blame the baseball. I have no interest in watching Porcello pitch in his 30's.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 18:36:04 GMT -5
I think Porcello is useless with a juiced baseball. So are most pitchers if you haven't noticed. At least he gives innings. Charlie Morton and other quality pitchers disagree.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 18:26:50 GMT -5
Ryan Webber has been just as good as Porcello. Done. Porcello has a little more of a track record. Do you think that every pitcher that has a bad year is done? I think Porcello is useless with a juiced baseball.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 18:26:13 GMT -5
Well if Sale needs Tommy John surgery, then trying to go all out to win in 2020 would be a fatal mistake. 2020 should be all about finding out the future of the franchise.
Mookie is either in or out this off-season. Simple as that. Trade JBJ too.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 18:00:59 GMT -5
It's kind of a slam dunk as far as extending JBJ goes. No. The guy's hitting .220 and hasn't even gotten to his 30th birthday yet. It's not going to get better offensively for him as he ages and it's not like defense improves as a player ages. They have plenty of other players to spend money on. The bigger question re: JBJ is whether they trade him this offseason. Doubtful they do, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. CF is likely Duran's come 2021 and Jimenez within a year or two later might be going after that job. Or they get somebody else, but it's highly doubtful you see JBJ in CF come 2021 and beyond. What if they can sign JBJ for like 4/$28 million? We really have no idea what his market is, but at some price point, he's worth keeping without an obvious replacement. The same goes for Porcello. Ryan Webber has been just as good as Porcello. Done.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 17:48:24 GMT -5
Season over again. Wonderful.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 6:59:12 GMT -5
Don't look now, but the Sox are 6 and a half back of the second wild card. You're right -- I don't want to look at that. It's ugly. It's not great, but the talent is good enough to rip off 10 wins in the next 12 games against the terrible opponents coming up. That could really make things interesting. Add- I hope the Sox get within one game in the last 3 games of the year. They play Baltimore to end the year. Just get it to one game by the last series of September and there's your layup.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 6:35:59 GMT -5
Marco is a better shortstop than Holt but not as good as Lin who is a better shortstop than Xander. This is probably true, but 31 year old Brock Holt is probably not a good defender moving forward in a lot of places. I think people need to learn to move on from Holt soon. Lin is also out of options next year and the Sox will lose him if they don't keep him on the 25 man roster moving forward.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 6:20:54 GMT -5
Marco also has about twice the range of Chavis. He's way more playable at SS than Nunez ever was even when he was younger. Looking at errors to judge defense is like looking at pitching wins. Looking at mistakes made is not useless. A collective team stat (pitching wins) is useless. It's going to be the reason why Devers won't have a positive DRS until he fixes the errors, for example. Chavis isn't a short stop. Usless comparison. Compare Marco to other short stops if you want to see him moved around there. Nunez is a terrible bar for a example too. Add- Marco is probably a better 2B than Chavis, but that doesn't say much either. I already stated he's a 2B only and a good enough one there defensively. If you're going to put him somewhere else, that's where you're going to pay a penalty for Marco's defense.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 6:12:00 GMT -5
He can't play 3B or SS all that well. There's a reason why the Sox have correctfully stuck him at second base only all year. He's a butcher anywhere else. Really? A butcher? That’s pretty harsh. He had experience at SS and 3B before he was hurt, so they saw him as a potential Utility infielder. For good reason. He is a smart, fast, athletic baseball player who, like Holt and Lin could probably play several positions well given the reps. He spent two years getting back from surgeries and it’s likely he primarily played 2B in rehab as the best way to get back into game shape and back to Boston. I sure wouldn’t put limits on him now that he is finally healthy and playing well. He can play 3B as well as probably Sam Travis can play 3B (really badly). Marco last played 3B in 2017. He made 5 errors out of 16 plays (attempts) in the majors. Think about how bad that is. Marco is not known for defense at all really. He's made even 5 errors in 90 attempts at even 2B. It's passable, but not great. He has had 4 errors in less than half the attempts the attempts at SS in the minors this year. So basically, Marco is a short stop when you need to give Xander a day off every couple of weeks. Anything beyond that, he's a liability for any stretch of period at SS. He can't play 3B at all in the little time he spent there. He's a poor defender at SS. He's passable at 2B. He's in there because he can hit and run.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 6:02:15 GMT -5
1). You miss the whole point, it's if we offer him our best offer and he rejects it like reports say we plan on doing this off season. He wants an contract our owner isn't willing to give. Your response to that was it was still better to keep him for one year even if you lose him for nothing. My point is losing a guy like Betts for nothing is crazy and not worth one slightly better chance at another title. If you can sign him or are willing to, then sign him. 2). Do you have any examples where they couldn't get good returns for a guy like Betts? You have this belief in your head that Baseball has changed. Teams are crazy smart now and won't make risky trades, but we have a ton of them made in the last year. Nevermind Betts is a different caliber then all of them. Like Goldschmidt was five years older and still had basically the same bwar Betts has now. Betts is the type of player teams do stupid stuff for. It only takes one team. 1. Even if he doesn't take the Red Sox best offer this offseason, that doesn't mean the Red Sox are definitely going to be outbid in free agency. I would go as far as to say that the Red Sox re-signing Betts in free agency may be the most likely of all the possible scenarios. He's worth the most to them and the market may well reflect that. He's worth most to everybody. Betts' ability to play CF for the first 3-4 years of a megacontract gives any team extra value on the front end. There are a ton of teams with money now laying around. The Blue Jays for example have less than 20 million AAV dollars comitted past 2020. The White Sox just offered 250 million to a worse player in Machado. The Braves were once a mid market team a decade ago and don't have a ton of long term dollars comitted. I wouldn't say that the Red Sox have the best chance. When you're betting with one team against the entire field, you normally take the field. Unless you're the one exception in the New England Patriots in the AFC Championship game lol.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2019 5:52:31 GMT -5
My son is going to have a surprise on Sunday. We're taking him to his first baseball game - and it would be awesome if Chris Sale was pitching as opposed to seeing Brian Johnson, Andrew Cashner, etc. Your boy will see a good pitcher pitch, Champs. Sox stretching out Eovaldi is a great thing. They've been missing him all year in the rotation.
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