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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 22:36:43 GMT -5
Never in doubt. It's clear Cashner is the closer. The Cash man. When he's on the mound, it's money in the bank.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 22:21:31 GMT -5
The Red Sox won a game. Incredible.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 22:11:01 GMT -5
Lol you gave Cashner a free out. Idiots.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 22:07:37 GMT -5
Strap in. We are going for a Cashner ride for the save. Lmao.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 22:04:55 GMT -5
Second base running mistake of the night for Devers. Jesus.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 22:04:27 GMT -5
Devers loves to hack. It's working tonight.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 21:58:25 GMT -5
Cashner warming up. Awesome!! The Sox savior.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 21:44:03 GMT -5
Lol. Yep.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 21:29:30 GMT -5
With Workman coming in, what is the plan tomorrow? Hernandez should start. Nate threw so few pitches, he can help out as well. Then the off day I think Eovaldi is still the opener tomorrow. He threw 6 pitches tonight.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 21:17:25 GMT -5
Here comes tomorrow's starter into this game- Eovaldi.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 21:09:38 GMT -5
Barnes can go take a hike and go get lost for all I care recently. Dude has had nothing lately and hasn't been used all that much.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 20:53:29 GMT -5
I assume this is sarcasm. The second homer is disappointing, but he’s been good. 5 runs 3 ER in 6.2 IP. Not fantastic. Great peripherals, but that's not good. That's a quality start. Have no idea what you're talking about.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 20:43:42 GMT -5
Devers error. Another big one.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 14:42:59 GMT -5
Do you think saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over helps to convince them or just annoys them? I didn't repeat exactly. You phrased "top end contacts" with the mega deals. They shouldn't be. They're two separate things. I gave everyone a reason why Texeira chose New York, more than the accepted fact that "he just wanted to play there." No the Sox could have kept bidding and overpaid and could have gotten him. They didn't. Will the Sox keep upping the offer to Betts or will they draw the line? You tell me.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 14:26:49 GMT -5
I'm not rooting for billionaires. I'm rooting for the Red Sox. I mean would you applaud the Red Sox signing Mookie for 35 years and 18 billion dollars? If not, you're rooting for billionaires. 1. Is John Henry willing to sign top-level, expensive free agents? Demonstrably, yes. There's only one person who doesn't think this, so I think we should move on from it. And what is also frustrating is that so much of the pushback to that, in this thread, is reductionist whining that free agents sometimes choosing to sign with other teams being a sign that John Henry is cheap. John Henry not signing Mark Teixiera isn't a sign he's not willing to sign Mookie Betts, but it's also not a reason to let him off the hook for operating within a constructed economic system that he and the owners fashioned in order to claim they can't afford to give Mookie Betts $400 million. You're in for a treat if you think the Sox are willing to do that. There's a difference between top level and the mega contracts of MLB. You can pay for top level contracts and still not have even a top 5 contract in MLB today. That's what Henry usually goes for. Texeira chose to go to Yankees, but it was reported that the Sox got outbid by the Yankees by 20 million at that time too, making the decision even easier. The Sox draw a line, unless they are desperate.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 13, 2019 6:35:05 GMT -5
Given that ERAs for RPs can be very deceptive, compare the ERAs of the Cleveland RPs in tonight's game with those of the Sox RPs and where Cleveland is in the standings compared to the Sox. I think the entire pitching staff needs rebuilding. I don't know how that can be done but it's not going to be any better next year unless some drastic changes are made. Yes for sure. Some keepers like Darwinzon. Walden and Taylor (middle relief). Workman has been solid with his velocity back. Barnes can go. All the Webers, Johnsons, Velazquez's, Cashners, Porcellos, Brewers, Brasiers, Hembrees, Wrights, Poyners, Josh Smiths can go. Like all those names are very replaceable. Porcello in his 30's will not be any good in the AL East anymore. That's what I fully believe. He has been embarrassed this year in the AL East. He needs to go to the NL to revive his career. Get starting pitching depth. Get better depth than all this leftover junk. I bet if the Sox DFA'd half these guys, they could be outrighted to the minors. That's how bad they are. No team would claim them. Hard to know what to do either. You're kind of stuck. A Mookie trade should replenish the starting pitching depth a bit. A JBJ trade might get you a reliever. There isn't a lot of good answers, and of course, you need to replace those guys in the outfield as soon as you trade them away. Maybe someone bites on Michael Chavis and someone gives up a controllable arm for him? Yeah I got nothing. Dave Dombrowski or whoever is the GM next year has A LOT of work to do this off-season.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 12, 2019 22:41:22 GMT -5
Devers chasing, but had a good game still.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 12, 2019 21:41:39 GMT -5
Lol. Of course that happens.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 12, 2019 21:34:56 GMT -5
"Reliever trades are stupid." Meanwhile the Indians absolutely crushed the Brad Hand trade. he said as the save was blown Xander is a MVP candidate. Still a great trade.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 12, 2019 21:28:32 GMT -5
"Reliever trades are stupid."
Meanwhile the Indians absolutely crushed the Brad Hand trade.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 12, 2019 19:03:44 GMT -5
Lol. All you can do is laugh at this point.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 12, 2019 18:27:03 GMT -5
It's all relative. Price was the highest paid pitcher in the league, but there was already contracts worth way more prior. Joey Votto. Albert Pujols. Robinson Cano. ARod (twice). Miguel Cabrera. It wasn't soon thereafter where contracts really spiked, too. Like Trout, Harper, etc. In essence, when you line up the Price contract, it wasn't even in the top 5 of contracts out there at the time. Manny Ramirez's contract was, and we all don't need to review that subject again. Henry has no problem probably dumping 200 million on a star player. 300 million? I think he's tapping out, due to his behavior in the past on mega contracts. In that case, I don’t see your point. The Sox have, on a number of occasions, given huge contracts to FAs. You point to the absolute whoppers (though Cano’s $240/10 is smaller by year than Price’s, so your selection is odd), to say what? The Sox are cheap? Too cheap to pony up for Mookie? Well, Trout, Votto, ARod, and Cabrera all got extended by their own teams, so it is impossible to say the Sox wouldn’t match. I think history shows the Pujols and Cano deals were disasters. So.... what? This Mookie contract is going to be a whopper. That's really the whole point in all of this. Mookie has said (and I'm paraphrasing) that he sees himself at a certain value and he expects it to come when he hits free agency. Translation- He sees himself at a certain number to get a deal done. Mookie knows the number. John Henry probably knows the number. 100 million didn't work. 200 million didn't work. You're looking at 300+ million to get it done. I think the total years is irrelevant in this case. Although, I don't see Henry being comfortable going more than 10 years either. The most years I believe he has ever offered to a player was the 9 year 170+ million dollar rumored offer for Texeira a decade ago. I think it's easy to see where this is headed. Now with the rumors that Jon Morosi popped up recently with "rival GMs expect that the Sox are going to listen to offers for Mookie Betts." It's what might be the best trade offer for Mookie at this point, especially if Henry is unwilling to go to that 300+ million dollar offer.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 12, 2019 17:48:01 GMT -5
Imagine a terrible reference. This had everything to do with Mookie Betts and the relevance of signing him, up until someone came in and decided that he didn't like what I had to say. The Manny Ramirez contract is the only comparable we have to Mookie at the moment, because Manny Ramirez was one of the only contracts that the Sox held while his contract was one of the most expensive in MLB at the time. Add- In fact, the fact that Manny Ramirez is the only point of reference is also a indicator of what the Sox won't do here when it comes to Mookie (offer a market level deal). What about a $200+ million for Price? And... I guess it is partly relative. I mean, you can say they gave few “Manny” contracts, but by that standard, you can say many teams have never done it. The question is more about top dollar. Sox spent huge on Crawford. Gonzales. Fat Panda. Huge like Manny? No. But huge for those positions. Consider the pay they gave Porcello, at best a #3 starter. The kind of money half the league simply wouldn’t do. How many mega contracts are there? It's all relative. Price was the highest paid pitcher in the league, but there was already contracts worth way more prior. Joey Votto. Albert Pujols. Robinson Cano. ARod (twice). Miguel Cabrera. It wasn't soon thereafter where contracts really spiked, too. Like Trout, Harper, etc. In essence, when you line up the Price contract, it wasn't even in the top 5 of contracts out there at the time. Manny Ramirez's contract at the time was, and we all don't need to review that subject again. Henry has no problem probably dumping 200+ million on a star player. 300+ million? I think he's tapping out, due to his behavior in the past on mega contracts.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 12, 2019 14:14:12 GMT -5
Yes. People like different opinions on here, until they don't. Completely wild, they even want you off the message board. Imagine your favorite song. Ok, now imagine someone playing it 50 times, and slowing increasing the volume each time to the point of hearing damage. Does that sound good? No? Huh, everyone likes songs until they don't I guess. Imagine a terrible reference. This had everything to do with Mookie Betts and the relevance of signing him, up until someone came in and decided that he didn't like what I had to say. The Manny Ramirez contract is the only comparable we have to Mookie at the moment, because Manny Ramirez was one of the only contracts that the Sox held while his contract was one of the most expensive in MLB at the time. Add- In fact, the fact that Manny Ramirez is the only point of reference is also a indicator of what the Sox won't do here when it comes to Mookie (offer a market level deal).
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 12, 2019 14:12:00 GMT -5
Due to his minimal service time, won't we still control Castillo at the league minimum in 2021 after his current deal ends? Seems more likely he could get a shot then. Castillo will most likely added in September next year, due to his salary.
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