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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 29, 2014 22:03:30 GMT -5
Brewers, Orioles both out. Things starting to shake out. LA, Pitt, StL.. Could be Seattle has put in an attempt too.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 29, 2014 20:47:21 GMT -5
So farrell challenges this, but didn't challenge the play in Tampa Bay? does he not know how to manage anymore. Moron. I was mad Farrell challenged that also... till I looked at the TiVo and his foot was off the bag it appeared and with him forcing his foot back on the bag after petey got there it was a good challenge. If should of been a safe call it appeared. So I guess I'm not to po'ed at =John this time!
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 29, 2014 17:21:56 GMT -5
If Lester is traded for this huge package and does resign a non rediculous contract he will be a Boston hero. There will be much Yankee and Ray whining. And David Prices era in post season play will still be 5.06+ Oh well life goes on.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 29, 2014 15:07:31 GMT -5
Don't buy it. Pedey signed for 7/100. If he meant that, they would've worked out a deal already. There's no way the Sox aren't willing to go to $100m for him, even if its not over 7 years Don't buy it all you want, but those were his words. There's nothing that says that (possibly farcicle) extension hasn't changed, however. Last january you mean when he was talking about this to the media "“I’ve never been the type of guy to take more money from somebody else to suck. I don’t want to do that. That’s no fun. I want to win, and if that means taking a Dustin Pedroia deal, to take less money to be happy and competitive and win every year, let’s do it,” Lester said, referencing the eight-year, $110 million extension that his teammate signed during the 2013 season. However, Lester acknowledged that the lucrative deals and extensions signed by starting pitchers this offseason are difficult to ignore. Along with this: “It’s hard not to pay attention to it,” the pitcher said. “As a player, it’s good for baseball, obviously being in this situation that I’m in right now, you can’t help but notice it and wonder and think and talk. You never want to be the guy that takes the market backwards. With the way the game’s gone over the past couple years with TV deals and revenue, you’re just going to see those deals creep up.” Well that seems to me he acknowledged a SLIGHT advantage for the sox to get it done but if you read the lines it doesn't say for sure and it does acknowledge outside (union) pressure will push to screw it up. So there is more than one interpretation as to what IS happening here. fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2014/01/23/jon-lester-says-he-wants-a-dustin-pedroia-deal-to-stay-with-red-sox/
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 29, 2014 14:12:58 GMT -5
Could you imagine a more bizarre thing happening in baseball? Ian Browne ? @ianmbrowne Here is the craziest thing that could happen. Lester gets traded to Blue Jays and pitches against Sox tomorrow at Fenway. Add in that he throws a 10H 7r performance and resigns with the sox at season end for 4yr @ 76M and you got a winner!!!
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 29, 2014 14:07:40 GMT -5
This is probably the most likely case presented on this thread. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Lester's side informally stated he was worth 6 at Greinke money so their discount would be 6 at 145 or something ridiculous like that. He's already said on live air that he would take $1 more than the Pedroia extension (Speier, in Spring Training). Didn't he also say the union was pressuring him to keep it real. I would think the difference is what his agents are telling the sox and what the media is getting feed might be substantially different. Just today they refused to comment on there contract proposals so there is that too. IMO Levinson is pushing for more money and advising Lester to keep going for free agency and more and more unless he told them like Varitek to only negotiate with the Sox which doesn't seem likely. The union pressure Lester spoke of could also be factored in with what Levinson is pushing also.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 29, 2014 13:28:02 GMT -5
Paxton is the only one of their top 17 prospects to play for Tacoma recently. Paxton won't pitch till Friday probably as he pitch Sunday. His stats were 4.1 IP 6H 1R 3BB 5K 78-47. They must be looking at Franklin, Montero, or (cough cough) Smoak.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 29, 2014 11:45:16 GMT -5
If reports were true that they could've had him in March for "Homer Bailey's deal plus a dollar" - i.e. $105,000,001 for 6 years, then I am going on the record that letting him go and not getting what will be at least 1, controllable 4WAR a year ave player in return, then letting him go will have been a big mistake. I really don't buy the Homer Bailey deal plus a dollar though, I have a tough time believing he would've accepted such a low AAV over 6 years given his age. What I don't get is why they didn't just go with a very fair 5 for 110 offer, which is still a discount, but a lot of money. It's not like they needed to play hardball- that's the aspect thats most frustrating about the whole thing, it really should've been resolved a long time ago, unless all of us are way off on our estimates of what Lester is asking for.This is probably the most likely case presented on this thread. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Lester's side informally stated he was worth 6 at Greinke money so their discount would be 6 at 145 or something ridiculous like that.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 28, 2014 10:55:58 GMT -5
The Dodgers are the last contending team in baseball who need Lester. There are a dozen teams in more need for Lester. Any team in the NL Central could use Lester except the Cubs. Lester could be the difference maker in the NL Central. Seems to me that the dodgers claims to be in wouldn't necessarily be for their depth but for sole protection of keeping him away from the Giants and then the Cardinals as they may fear those two in the playoffs with a better pitching staff.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 27, 2014 20:11:27 GMT -5
Buster Olney ?@buster_ESPN 7m Red Sox continue to be in listen mode on Jon Lester. If somebody meets their asking price--perhaps more value than draft pick--could move. Twitter and espn..... Start rumor on twitter with little to no basis. Write fictional short story and call it an article. Get a bunch of readers to report it as factual as it was on the news. Someone attaches link to article to show their fact on a forum. Now gospel and everyone has to take it as the only way to survive the month. Gets dis-proven. Start over on Twitter. LOL about the end of next week we can look back and take stock in what happened with the front office and a good discussion on the new prospects and next year will begin. Gotta love those ESPN writers IE if we say it ... it must be fact!
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 27, 2014 19:55:14 GMT -5
FWIW: Archer now is jumping on the Maddon, Price bandwagon with regards to Ortiz taking his sweet time going around the bases and "being bigger than the game". He was on local media interview and not very happy. Possibly Archer should have just had a better game? Thought would let everyone know how these fans are. Very hard to attend games in that dump anymore. Archer is to little in the game to mouth off to much about Big Papi. If he next wants to start a fight by throwing at Papi, well he would be lights out after that ... and when he wakes up maybe the game would seem bigger to him?
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 27, 2014 12:15:36 GMT -5
We're talking SSS here but the season stats include when he tried to come back then had to take more time off because his hand wasn't sufficiently healed. Look at the recent games, up until last night a hit or two every day, 3 HRs in the last 7 games and had one robbed by a circus catch. He also has a recent less than 20 K% rate (no walks tho). Signs of life and definite signs that we shouldn't just give up on him. Read the wording, I'm referring to his recent performance and worst case is that we can rebuild his trade value. Fair enough ... and I'm not really advocating that the Sox should "give up on him." If someone still thinks he can be a RH power third baseman and offers the Sox a trade from that perspective, I'd take it. But his value is probably really low right now, so might as well give him some more time. Maybe the Sox should give Bogaerts a break (send him down to work on getting his confidence back at the plate) and activate WMP and give him a shot at proving his worth while the Sox need some power. Soon the Sox are going to have to make some kiind of decision on who and where they play, stay or go, that should be the goal of the rest of this season .... what are the long term positions of quite a few players for the teams benefit.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 26, 2014 20:22:24 GMT -5
All of them. Edit: with that said, Tazawa is the only one you don't actively look to move and Uehara you hold out for a strong return (since bringing him back on a one year qualifying offer is a viable alternative.) Great point and one people should be thinking going into next season. All the club's decent relievers are FA after the season, sans Taz, hence the pen will need to be completely rebuilt once again.I doubt anyone wants to see the days of nobody but a Mike Timlin type (Taz) in the pen again, so can see where Hembree really made sense as a return in the Pavy deal. The relievers at AAA they were counting on have all regressed. Wilson, Britton, Villareal and it would take a large jump for either Cellestino, or Kurcz to help out. Will the pen get filled out once again by FA and retreads like it once was? IMO they really need to address both Miller and Uehara's situation by resigning them and not trading. Workman should be taking one of those spots too, he still looks like a pretty good reliever to me. Uehara may be willing to sign for a reasonable sum not sure Miller will though as Boston seems to go hard on him in before it goes to Arb discussions.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 26, 2014 19:43:31 GMT -5
The uninformed people are the ones suggesting Jake Peavy was anything better than one of the worst 10-15 pitchers in the league this year.[/quote] well, he might be one of the 10-15 worst among pitchers with enough innings to qualify for the ERA title, but that constitutes only 93 of the 150 rotation slots in the league. He hasn't been great, but he still has value. That being said, I agree Kieth Law is an idiot and always has been. And to the person who said he is smart for going to Harvard, I wonder how many people you have met who went to Harvard, they are not all as smart as you think.[/quote] When you add in his 14.5 million salary he is approaching a disastrous flop for this year and that is what counts in the real world. After all would you rather have that cost or a arb eligible for a mill or so. And your right about Harvard there have been a few disasters that graduated from there like both obamas.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 26, 2014 19:21:11 GMT -5
And if you tivo that play at first on Ortiz you will see Ortiz is safe as when the 1st baseman caught the ball his foot wasn't in contact with the bag and he fired home bad deal by holt and not protesting the call got em at first.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 26, 2014 18:32:25 GMT -5
Nap should have caught that please explain why Jennings isn't out on the run down the line too.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 26, 2014 18:28:39 GMT -5
That was totally a home run, completely wrong call. IF you TiVo that he catches the ball high then the force of the catch pulls the mitt down... Please trade Jerry to the rays as he is annoying or better yet send him to Frisco with Peavy... Such a mouth that man has.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 26, 2014 15:16:41 GMT -5
I was not the one who called it brilliant.... All I ask is for uninformed people to stop referring to Peavy as bad and stop discrediting Law for his comments just because he properly valued a guy like Jake Peavy Jake has been a five+ inning pitcher for the last year we had him... he goes deeper than gives up the go ahead run/runs and if Law thinks that is his stud winner in this deal he has another think coming. Jake has been nothing but a "fringy starter for us as he can't produce hardly at all past 5 innings before he gives up that winning home run that makes him prone to HR to boot. 40 in the last year and a half. Where does law see the great production from him... 0.0WAR we got a steal in this deal as his value over the rest of the season is a lottery ticket at best. IMO
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 26, 2014 11:34:57 GMT -5
yikes: Brian MacPherson ?@brianmacp 16m Edwin Escobar has a 5.11 ERA in 20 starts in the PCL this year, but he was Baseball America's No. 56 prospect before this season. He's backed up a little bit. Some of it is the change in leagues, and some is not. We'll get a better chance to evaluate in Pawtucket. Still no spot for Owens in AAA. He is also 22 yrs old pitching in a band box league so the hitters have an advantage right?
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 22, 2014 19:58:39 GMT -5
Why on earth is noone even warming up in the pen? Cuz, Farrell is in love, How can he not know that the mirrors stop bending in the 6th for this has been.
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 22, 2014 18:02:12 GMT -5
It's a shame the Sox and Cards couldn't come to terms. I understand where both sides are coming from there. I'm not too familiar with the Giants system. Position player-wise, I would love to get Mac Williamson...even though straight up for Peavy doesn't seem realistic. I see Mac Williamson or Gary Brown in the prospect lists that would seem to be a fair value. www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=brown-005gar
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 21, 2014 20:19:46 GMT -5
Aww - an at bat for the manager's binky. Dang we can't get him traded if he keeps popping it up like that!
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 21, 2014 20:14:10 GMT -5
Wasn't Rogers Center the place where we got to know Mike Carp's knuckleball? Wonder what sort of pitches the Jays' position players can throw... Gee, Does Holt have a knuckler too? He should try it tonight then take over for Peavy tomorrow!
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 21, 2014 19:55:09 GMT -5
Congrats to Papi moving ahead of Yaz on the all time HR list 453. Who's next? Adam Dunn 454
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Post by Gwell55 on Jul 21, 2014 13:33:54 GMT -5
Drew is going to get a multi-year deal without draft pick compensation. He isn't sticking around. More than likely with the way he is hitting he will either take a 1 yr make good contract or have to except a 3yr@ 4-5 per. His sitting out didn't make much of a difference to his hitting from late last year through the playoffs to this season it is appearing. I doubt Drew will take a 3/15 so he might just be a one year rental again.
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