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Post by amfox1 on Aug 27, 2013 13:43:32 GMT -5
Per the internets.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 27, 2013 13:45:44 GMT -5
Quintin Berry
Position: LF
Bats: Left, Throws: Left
Height: 6' 0", Weight: 175 lb.
Born: November 21, 1984 in San Diego, CA (Age 28)
Played for DET in 2012 - 258/330/354/684, with 21 SB in 330 PAs.
KC claimed him off waivers from DET earlier this year.
Combined AAA stats in 2013 - 193/309/260/569, with 28 SB.
Looks like a September pinch-runner.
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Post by tjb21 on Aug 27, 2013 13:47:08 GMT -5
Brings lots of speed for a September call-up. I like the potential late inning pinch-runner move.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 27, 2013 13:52:53 GMT -5
I note that neither Mortensen nor Berry are on 40-man rosters, so there is no guarantee of a call-up.
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Post by jrffam05 on Aug 27, 2013 13:54:10 GMT -5
I know it is a small move but I don't like it. Mortensen was good for us last year, he had a bad year this year but took to AAA starting depth pretty nicely recently. Just my two cents.
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Post by jmei on Aug 27, 2013 14:11:41 GMT -5
I think it's just a tweak on the margins. Mortensen almost certainly won't play for the Red Sox this year (Wilson, De La Rosa, and probably De La Torre and Beato are ahead of him on the RH reliever depth chart, and Workman and Webster are ahead on the starter depth chart) and he's a free agent at the end of the year. As a solid defender in LF with good speed, Berry fits the September roster a lot better.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 27, 2013 14:39:38 GMT -5
This year's Joey Gathright?
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 27, 2013 14:55:34 GMT -5
I was thinking more Dave Roberts. Although Berry clearly isn't the player Roberts was
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Post by steveofbradenton on Aug 27, 2013 15:18:25 GMT -5
I think it's just a tweak on the margins. Mortensen almost certainly won't play for the Red Sox this year (Wilson, De La Rosa, and probably De La Torre and Beato are ahead of him on the RH reliever depth chart, and Workman and Webster are ahead on the starter depth chart) and he's a free agent at the end of the year. As a solid defender in LF with good speed, Berry fits the September roster a lot better. This is the 1st thing I thought of when I heard of this trade...it was better to get something for Mortensen. Surprisingly we got more out of Clayton after trading Scut for him than I thought possible. |
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 27, 2013 15:20:38 GMT -5
I note that neither Mortensen nor Berry are on 40-man rosters, so there is no guarantee of a call-up. Agree with you all the way on Berry, unless Sox cut a couple of the guys obviously going to be gone from the roster after the season is finished to clear a spot for berry at least. Might have been one of those old "we need a pitcher.. Can you help us out" kind of deals organizations do. One other thing.. Hammer Willingham is on waivers and only due 7m for 2014. Fairly poor 2013 after knee surgery this year. Boston always wanted this guy and he's one of those that could mash 25-30HR with ease at Fenway. Massive RH power. If the price is reasonable and little available FA? I say see what the Twinkies want in exchange. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 15:35:48 GMT -5
That's the greatest thing that would concern me. If they are going to get someone to play LF next year, it has to be someone whom you don't have to worry about playing the field.
Otherwise you are basically getting a 35 year old DH with bad knees hoping that his power isn't gone.
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Post by 11mikem on Aug 27, 2013 15:45:06 GMT -5
Mortensen really seemed to find himself this season when switched to starting; he was dominant. Did he really have no projection?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 15:57:09 GMT -5
Good move. Mortensen didn't have a place as a reliever or starter on the Red Sox, and they really need a speedy 4th outfielder. This move makes total sense for both teams.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Aug 27, 2013 16:08:09 GMT -5
That's the greatest thing that would concern me. If they are going to get someone to play LF next year, it has to be someone whom you don't have to worry about playing the field. Otherwise you are basically getting a 35 year old DH with bad knees hoping that his power isn't gone. Hammer has been one of those guys susceptible to nagging injuries throughout his career and none ever sapped his power. Great thing about his contract only calling for 7m next season, less than half of what some here are calling on the team to give Salty over multi years and Willingham has been a FAR better hitter over many years than Salty will ever be, nagging injuries and all. Team could afford to bring in a defense only catcher in next year and pick up Willingham if wanted to go cheaper way even. The bat will go to Willingham over Salty, even this year with him slowed down some. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 27, 2013 16:46:07 GMT -5
This year's Joey Gathright? This. They don't have a burner in Pawtucket they can bring up. That said, they do need to make a 40-man move in September to add him. Probably depends on Hassan's health. Could send him to the 60-day if he's done for the year. (I know we speculated that they couldn't do this, but Texas did it the other day with a guy who was on the 40-man and pitching in the Carolina League, so I can't see why the Sox couldn't.) Will be interesting to see what happens in the Pawtucket rotation. Mortensen would have made two more starts, and as it is, they're going to need to clear a spot for Berry tomorrow. My guess is that it'll be a bullpen game on Thursday (they do have a 10-man bullpen right now, after all), and either Hernandez or Doyle will come up to take the last start of the regular season, when there'll be plenty of room on the roster. |
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 27, 2013 22:48:52 GMT -5
Farrell has confirmed that he'll be the September pinch-runner. With Buchholz coming off the 60-day DL,they'll have to make two of three possible moves: Hassan to the 60-day DL, DFA Snyder, DFA De La Torre.
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Post by jmei on Aug 27, 2013 23:41:45 GMT -5
The earlier it looks like Buchholz can come off the 60-day DL looks like September 10th, so they'll at least have another couple weeks to think it over. With Xander availing himself well enough, Middlebrooks at least staying afloat, and Holt coming up as a third layer of defensive insurance, it's gotta be Snyder DFAed, right?
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 28, 2013 7:05:32 GMT -5
It looks like the team has given up on Hazelbaker. He brings pretty much what Berry brings if you wanted him only for a late season pinch runner call up.
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Post by klostrophobic on Aug 28, 2013 7:21:01 GMT -5
Not necessarily. It could be there is just no room for Mortenson anywhere, so trade him for some with a nonzero chance of providing value. If Berry can score a single run, he'll likely provide more value than Mortenson would have.
Plus bringing in a guy like Hazelbaker to get his first MLB appearance as a pinch runner in a close September game is less than ideal by itself. Who wants to see this board explode when Hazelbaker gets thrown out at home to make the last out of a game?
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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Aug 28, 2013 8:15:36 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see what happens in the Pawtucket rotation. Mortensen would have made two more starts, and as it is, they're going to need to clear a spot for Berry tomorrow. My guess is that it'll be a bullpen game on Thursday (they do have a 10-man bullpen right now, after all), and either Hernandez or Doyle will come up to take the last start of the regular season, when there'll be plenty of room on the roster. What about Aceves jumping up to Pawtucket instead of Doyle or Hernandez? He just started his rehab in the GCL |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 28, 2013 8:57:17 GMT -5
It looks like the team has given up on Hazelbaker. He brings pretty much what Berry brings if you wanted him only for a late season pinch runner call up. I think it may show one of two things: 1. They don't think JH will get taken or stick as a Rule 5 so they won't protect him Or 2. They aren't confident in hs base running. Being fast and a good base runner aren't one in the same. |
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Post by jmei on Aug 28, 2013 9:21:34 GMT -5
Certainly the former applies. If the front office thinks it can go another offseason without having to put Hazelbaker on the 40, all the better, and with Hazelbaker (a) not getting taken last year and (b) having a mediocre year while getting a year older (and thus losing another year of prospect shine), I'm pretty sure they aren't going to protect him this year.
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 28, 2013 9:39:43 GMT -5
The earlier it looks like Buchholz can come off the 60-day DL looks like September 10th, so they'll at least have another couple weeks to think it over. With Xander availing himself well enough, Middlebrooks at least staying afloat, and Holt coming up as a third layer of defensive insurance, it's gotta be Snyder DFAed, right?He's the obvious choice, but these things sometimes have a way of working themselves out. Buchholz isn't back yet and obviously isn't setback proof, Alex Wilson's status is up in the air, and it's not impossible that another player will get hurt between now and when Buchholz is back. Also, RE: Berry vs. Hazelbaker. It's possible that the Red Sox just view Berry as a better player. Berry's 2013 line is pretty dreadful, but his .221 BABIP with Toledo is way out of whack with anything he'd ever done before. Hazelbaker presents more power, but also has a 27% strikeout rate in Triple-A. If Berry is a better baserunner, a better defender, and has a better plate approach, then he's a better fit on the bench. It's possible Hazelbaker would get taken in the Rule 5 draft - the $25K gamble may be worth it, and since the draft rules changed there just aren't very many useful players available there. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 28, 2013 18:19:58 GMT -5
The obvious choice is Wilson to the 60-day. As I've said a number of times, he can be put on the DL and activated as soon as Sept. 7 or so. Given that he hasn't pitched since August 5, I think that's the likely move for Berry.
As for the move for Buchholz, that gets tricky. The club apparently intends on recalling Snyder, hence his rehab assignment in Pawtucket, so that DFA doesn't seem likely. Would depend on Hassan's finger - calling him up and moving him to the 60-day seems like the second move, to me.
Also, Berry is almost certainly NOT a better player than Hazelbaker. He's just a more fungible player who can provide a single skill - baserunning - at least as well as Hazelbaker and who the team won't mind losing this offseason. In adding Hazelbaker, you'd essentially be committing that 40-man spot to him throughout the offseason.
I do agree that this does say that the club likely isn't planning on adding him to the 40-man to protect him from Rule 5.
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Post by jmei on Aug 28, 2013 18:34:46 GMT -5
Farrell said before the game today that Berry will be up on September 1st, mainly for pinch-running duty. Wilson to the 60-day will almost certainly be the immediate countermove.
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