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Post by jimoh on Sept 4, 2013 13:33:13 GMT -5
It's much easier to hope he'll become good again when he's in the NL, and we won't see him until the apocalyptic Cubs-Sox Series of 2018.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 4, 2013 13:47:51 GMT -5
They'll be at Fenway next year so he may be seen sooner if he's good again.
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Post by sammo420 on Sept 4, 2013 13:47:55 GMT -5
Nope. Claimed by CHC (and probably a half dozen other clubs). I hope Sox will workout a trade with Cubs instead of letting him go for nothing. What do you think they'll give up that isn't about equal to nothing? |
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Post by ikonos on Sept 4, 2013 14:18:55 GMT -5
I hope Sox will workout a trade with Cubs instead of letting him go for nothing. What do you think they'll give up that isn't about equal to nothing? I wasn't thinking more than a lottery ticket but its still worth more than nothing. |
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Post by jimoh on Sept 4, 2013 14:50:55 GMT -5
I hope Sox will workout a trade with Cubs instead of letting him go for nothing. What do you think they'll give up that isn't about equal to nothing? If the Sox pay his salary, and the Cubs have a marginal prospect with vertigo or a fear of airplanes, they could work a deal rather than just letting the Cubs take the contract. Note that somewhere on the web someone has noted that the Cubs can't pay him too much less than his 2013 salary next year. |
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Post by chavopepe2 on Sept 4, 2013 15:52:16 GMT -5
Nope. Claimed by CHC (and probably a half dozen other clubs). I hope Sox will workout a trade with Cubs instead of letting him go for nothing. Why would the Cubs give up anything? He isn't on revocable waivers. He belongs to the Cubs and the Red Sox don't have any say in it at this point. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 15:52:19 GMT -5
I'd imagine that the Cubs will non-tender him and work out a deal with him much like the Sox did with Andrew Miller.
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Post by jmei on Sept 4, 2013 16:13:18 GMT -5
Hell, the Cubs might tender him a contract. They only have to offer something like $1.5m, which is not a lot, and Bard has an option left.
PS: does this mean no AL team claimed Bard, or do DFA waivers work differently than revocable August waivers?
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 4, 2013 16:54:42 GMT -5
It's much easier to hope he'll become good again when he's in the NL, and we won't see him until the apocalyptic Cubs-Sox Series of 2018. A) He can't even pitch to GCL lineups right now and B) relievers don't benefit from being in the NL as much because they're less likely to face pitchers. |
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Post by jimoh on Sept 4, 2013 17:28:13 GMT -5
It's much easier to hope he'll become good again when he's in the NL, and we won't see him until the apocalyptic Cubs-Sox Series of 2018. A) He can't even pitch to GCL lineups right now and B) relievers don't benefit from being in the NL as much because they're less likely to face pitchers. I didn't mean it will be easier for him to be good again, but that it will easier for a Sox fan to hope that he will be good again without worrying about him facing us, except, as someone pointed out, in next year's interleague games--which seems a little soon for him to back in form. |
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Post by chrisg on Sept 4, 2013 19:06:05 GMT -5
Odds that Theo hires Cather away from the Padres? (Is he still with the Padres?)
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 4, 2013 20:35:27 GMT -5
Odds that Theo hires Cather away from the Padres? (Is he still with the Padres?) According to Wikipedia, yes. |
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Post by jrffam05 on Sept 5, 2013 8:43:24 GMT -5
Really hate to see this guy go, was hoping he could turn it around as a Red Sox.
I know this would never happen, but wouldn't it be great if the Cubs non tender him to try to work out a minor league contract and he takes one with the Sox instead. Very wishful thinking on my part.
Good Luck Bard.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 10:25:17 GMT -5
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 6, 2013 15:07:27 GMT -5
Interesting little media quote by Bard to MLB.com:
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Post by Gwell55 on Sept 6, 2013 17:44:07 GMT -5
Interesting little media quote by Bard to MLB.com: Seems to me he is grasping at straws. He needs to accept that his performance in September of 11 had nothing to do with his switching to starting as it hadn't happened yet. He velocity was down back then and his control had slipped also. He still doesn't have the bullpen velocity back even now and needs to acknowledge he has to change his style as he seems to be going forward without the velocity that kept him a force in the sox pen. Another thing that seems odd is his under pressure stats, when actually closing, as they were also suspect as it never did really show up back then. He struggled then (closing) and again later when he started it showed again and his walks skyrocketed. |
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Post by godot on Sept 6, 2013 18:21:42 GMT -5
There are a number of theories as to why he lost it from his glory years, but most do not take into account the fact that it started late August, so you wonder about the starter and injury theories. Yeah, they may have something to do with his demise, but seems the time sequencing points more to mechanical issues, at least at first.
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Post by sammo420 on Sept 6, 2013 22:02:35 GMT -5
Interesting little media quote by Bard to MLB.com: Seems to me he is grasping at straws. I agree. When you do something technical like pitch every time something doesn't go right you want to know exactly why or why not. |
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