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Post by Jonathan Singer on Sept 16, 2013 20:39:31 GMT -5
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Post by godot on Sept 16, 2013 23:30:33 GMT -5
Just two weeks left. Any news about Ellsbury. They are really keeping his injury under wraps. They said within five days, and he would be reexamined. That time has passed, no?
If some of the posters are correct ( and it seems they are), Bradley Jr. has not improved that much offensively. If so, what is occurring? I thought people were being a little optimistic about his offense at the start of the season. but did not believe he would be this poor after almost a season at Triple A. He did have some stints on the DL ( elbow issues). Is part of the problem that he has not fully recovered?
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Sept 17, 2013 6:51:30 GMT -5
I want these bums to see the Sox celebrate a division title. Can we bring Endino back and have a night for him too?
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Post by jmei on Sept 17, 2013 7:54:30 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Sept 17, 2013 9:06:38 GMT -5
My guess is since he was playing fairly effectively with the injury he will start getting at bats next week, albeit with extra padding on the shore, to get the timing back then start every game of the playoffs.
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Post by godot on Sept 17, 2013 11:11:56 GMT -5
Is the Herald article really encouraging? Seems he is not near executing "baseball exercises", just general conditioning, which is ok but just two weeks away, and no mention (as of now) about any reevaluation. Maybe I am missing something.
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Post by bjb406 on Sept 17, 2013 13:12:46 GMT -5
If some of the posters are correct ( and it seems they are), Bradley Jr. has not improved that much offensively. If so, what is occurring? I thought people were being a little optimistic about his offense at the start of the season. but did not believe he would be this poor after almost a season at Triple A. He did have some stints on the DL ( elbow issues). Is part of the problem that he has not fully recovered? 78 at bats
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 17, 2013 14:51:49 GMT -5
He has barely got any playing time, and when he has been on the roster, he is not even playing everyday.
Its pretty unbelievable that people do this every time a new guy comes up and doesnt start producing right away. The younger guys take time to develop, but at least they're not $20 million dollar holes on our roster. Plenty of teams would love to have JBJr.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 17, 2013 15:33:22 GMT -5
This is the same virus that infects Boston media, the need for immediate and constant gratification.
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Post by soxfanatic on Sept 17, 2013 15:54:44 GMT -5
Red Sox v. Feldman: Pedroia 2B, Victorino CF, Ortiz DH, Napoli 1B, Nava RF, Carp LF, Saltalamacchia C, Drew SS, Bogaerts 3B, Dempster SP.
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Post by jmei on Sept 17, 2013 15:58:00 GMT -5
With Middlebrooks mired in an 0-17 slump (with no walks and 1 RBI), Xander's getting extra playing time at 3B. Is there enough time for Xander to supplant Will as the de facto starting 3B by the time the playoffs start?
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 17, 2013 16:05:52 GMT -5
With Middlebrooks mired in an 0-17 slump (with no walks and 1 RBI), Xander's getting extra playing time at 3B. Is there enough time for Xander to supplant Will as the de facto starting 3B by the time the playoffs start? It should be regardless. Lets hope Farrell doesn't have enough Francona in him to go with the "veteran 1st" philosophy that prevailed far to often back then and let the more talented kid Bogaerts play.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Sept 17, 2013 16:14:07 GMT -5
With Middlebrooks mired in an 0-17 slump (with no walks and 1 RBI), Xander's getting extra playing time at 3B. Is there enough time for Xander to supplant Will as the de facto starting 3B by the time the playoffs start? Xander is playing because WMB still has the after-effects of the flu. Not because of a change in status.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 17, 2013 16:18:19 GMT -5
This is the same virus that infects Boston media, the need for immediate and constant gratification. Disagree with the premise of this. There is nothing wrong with looking at the approach of a guy who was clearly overmatched in April, has gone to AAA for 400+ ABs and succeeded and then has come back up. The results are the small sample size and should be ignored. But his approach differs from the results. What's he swinging at, when does he swing, when does he take, how is his plate coverage, what type of contact does he make when he's up in the count vs. down. What's he making contact with and where, what's he getting beat with and where? These I think are fair game.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 17, 2013 16:30:57 GMT -5
With Middlebrooks mired in an 0-17 slump (with no walks and 1 RBI), Xander's getting extra playing time at 3B. Is there enough time for Xander to supplant Will as the de facto starting 3B by the time the playoffs start? Yes. Whether he'll be given the at bats to win the job, we'll see, but if he's given the PT over the next two weeks it's pretty easy to envision him doing enough with it to keep him in the lineup permanently. Of course, permanently is an exaggeration here. They'll probably have to bench him by like 2034 or so.
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Post by jmei on Sept 17, 2013 16:38:12 GMT -5
With Middlebrooks mired in an 0-17 slump (with no walks and 1 RBI), Xander's getting extra playing time at 3B. Is there enough time for Xander to supplant Will as the de facto starting 3B by the time the playoffs start? Xander is playing because WMB still has the after-effects of the flu. Not because of a change in status. Why must you ruin this for me???
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Post by godot on Sept 17, 2013 17:32:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the input on the Bradley question. I haven't watched his abats all that closely as most I saw he was still over matched. Maybe it is a sss but he there does not seem that much difference now than at the start. But need to look more closely and see how he is hitting the ball.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 17, 2013 18:31:14 GMT -5
Man we hit into a lot of double plays. Would be nice to see steals to avoid that.
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Post by mredsox89 on Sept 17, 2013 18:45:52 GMT -5
Man we hit into a lot of double plays. Would be nice to see steals to avoid that. Meh. Unless you've got a guy that can steal at an 80% or better clip the benefit doesn't really outweigh the risk. Sox are 10th in the MLB in GDP's, but also first in OBP, so that has a lot to do with it. Some quick math that I just composed from frangraphs. Looked at the total for each team in terms of single + BB + IBB + HBP to get a rough total of chances with a runner on first. Divided teams GDP by that total, Sox actually have the 9th lowest % of GDP following those. Obviously it's a complete rough look at it since if those happen with 2 outs a GDP isn't possible. But I think it at least buys into the notion that a lot of their DP's are a result of having more runners on first than anyone else other than the Tigers
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Post by wcp3 on Sept 17, 2013 18:56:11 GMT -5
With Middlebrooks mired in an 0-17 slump (with no walks and 1 RBI), Xander's getting extra playing time at 3B. Is there enough time for Xander to supplant Will as the de facto starting 3B by the time the playoffs start? Xander is playing because WMB still has the after-effects of the flu. Not because of a change in status. It should be because of a change of status. Xander looks like the better player at this point.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 17, 2013 18:58:49 GMT -5
Man we hit into a lot of double plays. Would be nice to see steals to avoid that. Meh. Unless you've got a guy that can steal at an 80% or better clip the benefit doesn't really outweigh the risk. Sox are 10th in the MLB in GDP's, but also first in OBP, so that has a lot to do with it. Some quick math that I just composed from frangraphs. Looked at the total for each team in terms of single + BB + IBB + HBP to get a rough total of chances with a runner on first. Divided teams GDP by that total, Sox actually have the 9th lowest % of GDP following those. Obviously it's a complete rough look at it since if those happen with 2 outs a GDP isn't possible. But I think it at least buys into the notion that a lot of their DP's are a result of having more runners on first than anyone else other than the Tigers Victorino is 21/24 (87.5%) I get that he has a bad hammy right now, but I do mean just in general. Back in that 1st game in the Tigers series we had numerous chances to score with fast guys on the basepaths: ellsbury, victorino, pedroia etc. and we hit into 3 or 4 dp's that game and got shut down. That could be why they sacrificed more lately against teams like the MFY's. They've had so much success stealing I don't see what is wrong with it. Yeah sometimes you'll get caught, but not very often, and the DP hurts even more.
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Post by wcp3 on Sept 17, 2013 19:01:27 GMT -5
I don't see a difference between a DP and getting caught stealing.
Actually, on second though, at least you have a chance to beat out the DP. When you're caught stealing, you're just out.
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Post by jchang on Sept 17, 2013 19:34:39 GMT -5
What will happen next?
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Post by wcp3 on Sept 17, 2013 20:04:07 GMT -5
There are few things I enjoy less than watching Dempster pitch.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 17, 2013 20:04:35 GMT -5
You're probably right as far as that is concerned but I do mean in general here. Guys like Ellsbury and Pedroia are both very quick but also hit into a lot of DPs. Big Papi hits into a lot with that shift as well. Stealing could help avoid that (maybe not with Victorino with the injured hammy but you get the idea.)
There goes Farrell again leaving in Dempster too long.
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