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Brentz
Mar 15, 2013 14:28:21 GMT -5
Post by brianthetaoist on Mar 15, 2013 14:28:21 GMT -5
"Big Gun" Brentz
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Brentz
Mar 17, 2013 7:36:31 GMT -5
Post by brisox on Mar 17, 2013 7:36:31 GMT -5
hope he continues to hit like this, while cutting down on the strike-outs and increasing his walks He will need to keep his head down, mouth shut and keep performing at a very high level. What I am hearing is that BC was not amused by the gun thing and rescinded the ST invite to send a message. Good news is that I believe BB gets that he messed up and is no longer throwing out his "it was no big deal "comments. I think in the end this will really help his maturity.
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Brentz
Mar 17, 2013 8:50:39 GMT -5
Post by steveofbradenton on Mar 17, 2013 8:50:39 GMT -5
It was a blast and a no-doubter into left center.
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Brentz
Mar 20, 2013 10:24:01 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2013 10:24:01 GMT -5
Mellen had some comments good commentary on Brentz on one of the Podcasts. After listening to his comments I wasn't a fan.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 6:09:40 GMT -5
Post by welovewally on May 22, 2013 6:09:40 GMT -5
Its time to add him to the 40 man. Bring him up, play him in LF or RF & bat him 6th. The Outfield mix should be Ellsbury, Victorino, Brentz & Nava.
Other then Ortiz I would have more faith in him getting a hit with RISP then anybody else currently on the 25 man roster.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 6:49:12 GMT -5
Post by hammerhead on May 22, 2013 6:49:12 GMT -5
I dunno if he's ready for a full time role or even as a straight platoon mate. He needs to learn to work a walk every now and again and he could cut down on the K's too. He could be the type of guy who has a nice career starting as a 26 or 27 year old rookie. I think if Victorino ends up on the DL that Brentz could easily out hit Gomes, but I'm not sure what that's saying. I suppose I'd rather have Brentz , because he's cheaper and can actually play some solid defense with a nice arm.
Gomes is kind of a waste right now, he's not really blocking Brentz, because Brentz still needs to play everyday to try and get better at pitch recognition. That being said I'd rather Carp get a few more starts and cut down on the amount of Gomes we are seeing. I know handedness matters and Gomes is supposed to be this Lefty Masher....problem is he isn't mashing anyone.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 7:16:35 GMT -5
Post by larrycook on May 22, 2013 7:16:35 GMT -5
I dunno if he's ready for a full time role or even as a straight platoon mate. He needs to learn to work a walk every now and again and he could cut down on the K's too. He could be the type of guy who has a nice career starting as a 26 or 27 year old rookie. I think if Victorino ends up on the DL that Brentz could easily out hit Gomes, but I'm not sure what that's saying. I suppose I'd rather have Brentz , because he's cheaper and can actually play some solid defense with a nice arm. Gomes is kind of a waste right now, he's not really blocking Brentz, because Brentz still needs to play everyday to try and get better at pitch recognition. That being said I'd rather Carp get a few more starts and cut down on the amount of Gomes we are seeing. I know handedness matters and Gomes is supposed to be this Lefty Masher....problem is he isn't mashing anyone. I agree, I think in Boston Brentz would see a ton of off speed and breaking balls just off the plate and he will chase them all game long making himself an easy out. He has got to learn to lay off the pitches that start out over the plate and break off the plate. He needs a ton more time at Pawtucket at this point.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 11:40:33 GMT -5
Post by hughlangin on May 22, 2013 11:40:33 GMT -5
Does anyone else wonder if Brentz can put up the line he is right now In Boston in a year or two? If he could bat around .280 and get on around a .330 clip and belt 25-30 home runs I'd be very very very happy with that. I think most would agree that he will get a cup of coffee at some point this season but if Victorino (hopefully not) were to go on the 15 day dl is he the first one up over Hazelbaker?
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 11:54:29 GMT -5
Post by iakovos11 on May 22, 2013 11:54:29 GMT -5
Hazelbaker K's much more than Brentz. I don't JHaze is ready either.
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May 22, 2013 12:05:00 GMT -5
Post by hughlangin on May 22, 2013 12:05:00 GMT -5
I agree, I think Brentz is over Hazelbaker. Hazelbaker is not a starter, while Brentz I think at least has a shot as a starter, perhaps even a platoon player. Plus Brentz is kinda hot right now, so if the Sox needed a corner outfielder tomorrow I think Brentz is the man.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 13:56:12 GMT -5
Post by The Town Sports Cards on May 22, 2013 13:56:12 GMT -5
If Victorino went on the 15 day DL, the only move would probably be Bradley. Otherwise you need to drop someone off the 40-man (though I suppose someone like De La Torre could pass waivers). If Victorino went to the 60 day, then maybe Brentz, but I think there is a chance Hazelbaker may get 1st shot. Not because he's better, but because he can backup CF (Nava, Gomes, Carp and Brentz can't), can be a late inning pinch runner/defensive replacement, and at 25, it's time to see what they have in him.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 14:07:28 GMT -5
Post by hammerhead on May 22, 2013 14:07:28 GMT -5
Victorino wouldn't be going on the 60 day DL with Hamstring tightness.... They can always move Hassan to the 60 day DL or DFA Holt, he's possibly pass through waivers. the same goes for Butler.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 14:50:44 GMT -5
Post by soxfanatic on May 22, 2013 14:50:44 GMT -5
Link on the adjustments Brentz is trying to make.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 15:22:51 GMT -5
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Post by jmei on May 22, 2013 15:22:51 GMT -5
Link on the adjustments Brentz is trying to make. Great find. Hopefully the adjustment helps him stay back on the ball and make better contact.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 19:20:20 GMT -5
Post by sarasoxer on May 22, 2013 19:20:20 GMT -5
Does anyone else wonder if Brentz can put up the line he is right now In Boston in a year or two? If he could bat around .280 and get on around a .330 clip and belt 25-30 home runs I'd be very very very happy with that. I think most would agree that he will get a cup of coffee at some point this season but if Victorino (hopefully not) were to go on the 15 day dl is he the first one up over Hazelbaker? Well, I do. I was interested in the link provided below as it gave an inside glimpse at the work in progress. I like Brentz as Boston's next home-grown outfield power hitter...work in progress as I said. In the x number of years that I have seen players come thru Portland, Rizzo generated the most crowd excitement...an electric groundswell that wonderful things could happen even tho he hit about .260. There was just an aura about him. Beyond him tho, I would put Hanley, Xander and Brentz one area code below on my personal scale.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 22:08:18 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 22:08:18 GMT -5
If victorino goes on the DL, what are the chances Brentz gets the first call? personally, I dont think bradley is ready and brentz has been hitting well as of late.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 22:25:18 GMT -5
Post by thelavarnwayguy on May 22, 2013 22:25:18 GMT -5
Brentz doesn't look ready to me. I expect he will be playing in Oakland or Pittsburgh within a year. They will curveball and off speed him to death.
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Brentz
May 22, 2013 22:33:17 GMT -5
Post by dmaineah on May 22, 2013 22:33:17 GMT -5
Brentz doesn't look ready to me. You've seen him play recently?
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Brentz
May 23, 2013 3:59:49 GMT -5
Post by thelavarnwayguy on May 23, 2013 3:59:49 GMT -5
Why bring a guy up who is hitting like .275 in AAA with Brentz's track record when we have JBJ healthy and available to play any OF spot? That's .275 after his best hot streak of the year. His scouting report says he has trouble picking up curve balls. That his swing can get long. He's 24 and still not putting up elite numbers in AAA. What is different about him than Brandon Moss and Josh Reddick? As in even as good as.
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Brentz
May 23, 2013 7:33:23 GMT -5
Post by larrycook on May 23, 2013 7:33:23 GMT -5
Why bring a guy up who is hitting like .275 in AAA with Brentz's track record when we have JBJ healthy and available to play any OF spot? That's .275 after his best hot streak of the year. His scouting report says he has trouble picking up curve balls. That his swing can get long. He's 24 and still not putting up elite numbers in AAA. What is different about him than Brandon Moss and Josh Reddick? As in even as good as. Because if you bring up Bradley, pitchers will bust him inside all day long. Earlier this year it took about a week for MLB pitchers to realize he is afraid when pitched inside. Why bring up Bradley and watch him turn sideways in the batters box trying to hit inside pitches? As for Brentz,he will see a steady stream of breaking balls and because he can not pickup the spin, become a swing and miss strike out machine.
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Brentz
May 23, 2013 7:46:05 GMT -5
Post by hammerhead on May 23, 2013 7:46:05 GMT -5
Why bring a guy up who is hitting like .275 in AAA with Brentz's track record when we have JBJ healthy and available to play any OF spot? That's .275 after his best hot streak of the year. His scouting report says he has trouble picking up curve balls. That his swing can get long. He's 24 and still not putting up elite numbers in AAA. What is different about him than Brandon Moss and Josh Reddick? As in even as good as. What evidence do you have that JBJ is back to being JBJ? If he were a major leaguer, you know where he'd be playing? in Pawtucket on a re-hab assignment. He just came back and is working on getting his timing back, I think major leaugue pitching isn't the best place for that. There are plenty of major league hitters who can't hit breaking balls. That isn't the issue at all. It's learning to lay off the good ones and hit the hangers that makes a hitter like Brentz take the next step. We won't know if he can handle it without giving him a taste. By the way Brentz's track record is pretty damn good and both the players you mentioned are totally exceptable major league bench players. That's what the sox need. My issue is that Brentz probably needs to play everyday at this point so If he's going to get a cup of coffee it should be as an everyday player and the position that needs upgrading is the Gomes role. Those are two different things.
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Brentz
May 23, 2013 8:45:44 GMT -5
Post by rjp313jr on May 23, 2013 8:45:44 GMT -5
Anyone else notice how a guy like Brentz who was a top pick and a top 10 prospect in the system gets slammed for possibly only being a .280/.330/.490 type of hitter?
People do realize that this is a pretty good line right? Is the OBP lower then we'd like? Sure, but we need to temper expectations. DeSarcina recently compared him to Jay Buhner. I'd be very happy with that toe of production. A lot has to do with overall lineup construction. It's pretty much been proven that the best offenses we've seen around here come when our lineup wears down the opposing starter. Even if they can't score early, getting the starter oh after 5, opens up scoring later. If Brentz is a guy that can't get deep into a count, that can be ok, but the lineup shouldn't have more then 1 tom3 of those guys. 3 is probably treading on too many.
Someone like Salty makes a lot of outs but at least he sees a lot of pitches most of the time. It's when he's making outs and going thru his stretches of not that he kills the lineup.
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Brentz
May 23, 2013 9:13:14 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 23, 2013 9:13:14 GMT -5
Hazelbaker K's much more than Brentz. I don't JHaze is ready either. Hazelbaker is never going to make enough contact to play every day though and it's a serious question if Brentz will either. Hazelbaker might be playing in the wrong decade. He has a good power speed combination that would be great in a bench role. But since he can only play LF, it's hard to put him on the bench in a world where every team needs a LOOGY and at least 12 pitchers. Maybe the Sox can find a way to get him on the roster in September. Earl Weaver would have loved him.
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Brentz
May 23, 2013 9:20:14 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on May 23, 2013 9:20:14 GMT -5
Jay Buhner struck less walked more and was a better fielder with more power. Other than that Brentz is exactly like Buhner. Josh Reddick with less fielding ability might be a better comparison.
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Brentz
May 23, 2013 9:20:48 GMT -5
Post by thelavarnwayguy on May 23, 2013 9:20:48 GMT -5
If the choices are Hazelbacker, Brentz or JBJ it's probably a toss up at this point but I'd still go with JBJ. He can play any position, is the best defender in general, decent on the base paths as a pinch runner and would probably have more likelihood of succeeding to me. We are trying to win this year and I don't think I'd give up on Gomes at this point, compared to what we have in the minors. Just platoon him with Carp and use JBJ only if Victorino or Ellsbury get hurt. If Gomes or Nava get hurt I would consider Brentz but overall I'd give JBJ the edge in the depth chart.
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