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Post by Jonathan Singer on Sept 24, 2013 8:26:18 GMT -5
9/24 Red Sox (RHP John Lackey 10-12 3.44) @ Rockies (RHP Tyler Chatwood 7-5 3.36) 8:40 pm ET, NESN/WEEI9/25 Red Sox (RHP Jake Peavy 11-5 4.02) @ Rockies (RHP Roy Oswalt 0-6 7.71) 8:40 pm ET, NESN/WEEIMLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 24, 2013 10:10:24 GMT -5
Maybe I'm crazy and being swayed by the fact that he's still named Roy Oswalt, but he's a prime low-budget signing for someone next year. His xFIP has been 3.27 each of the last two years. I know there's something to be said for pitchers who massively underperform their statistical projections, and his LD rate is a pretty gross 26%, but he also strikes people out, don't walk batters, and keep the ball in the ballpark in a really tough place to do that.
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Post by jmei on Sept 24, 2013 11:11:14 GMT -5
Maybe I'm crazy and being swayed by the fact that he's still named Roy Oswalt, but he's a prime low-budget signing for someone next year. His xFIP has been 3.27 each of the last two years. I know there's something to be said for pitchers who massively underperform their statistical projections, and his LD rate is a pretty gross 26%, but he also strikes people out, don't walk batters, and keep the ball in the ballpark in a really tough place to do that. He'll also be 36, with 74 combined innings pitched in 2012 and 69 (and counting) in 2013. A good luxury signing, but only if you have plenty of depth when he inevitably gets injured. |
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 24, 2013 11:25:32 GMT -5
If he wants to pitch though, he'll be dirt cheap. His base this year was $2.3M, and I think he made about another $1.5M in incentives. He'd make sense for a team like the Mariners or Mets, who is probably another year away but could be one or two players away from being a real contender and thus his downside is limited. He also missed two months with a hamstring strain on a weird play covering home plate, rather than anything to do with his back problem.
Sign him cheap on a one year with a vesting option for a second, hope for 60 to 100 innings, and if you get more you're golden.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 24, 2013 20:22:55 GMT -5
So, Home field, eh? Guess we should start prepping for the Tigers.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 24, 2013 21:27:04 GMT -5
Go Angels.
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Post by soxfan06 on Sept 24, 2013 22:29:42 GMT -5
We should start resting guys.
Can't lose games like this.
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Post by jmei on Sept 24, 2013 23:47:56 GMT -5
Hey, remember when Brandon Workman was going to rescue the injury-racked pen?
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Post by johnsilver52 on Sept 25, 2013 2:34:55 GMT -5
Hey, remember when Brandon Workman was going to rescue the injury-racked pen? Think he's better suited for starting. A waste of talent as a reliever and his numbers as a starter show that out. Maybe next year he will get more chances to start, even with another team (like Lavarnway) with him stuck in the relief role here don't think he will succeed. |
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Post by Guidas on Sept 25, 2013 15:04:25 GMT -5
Jhoulys Chacin tonight instead of Oswalt.
Not sure if that's a good thing.
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Post by nebraska4sox on Sept 25, 2013 15:26:44 GMT -5
Peavey will dominate tonight, I have a feeling. The Sox need this one and the Sox have been good when they need wins this year. At least that is my observation didn't look at numbers or anything.
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Post by jmei on Sept 25, 2013 16:33:11 GMT -5
Angels are leading the As again, 3-1 bottom 7th as of the time of this post.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 25, 2013 16:35:01 GMT -5
Ellsbury CF, Victorino RF, Pedroia 2B, Ortiz 1B, Nava LF, Salty C, Drew SS, Middlebrooks 3B, Peavy P.
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Post by mredsox89 on Sept 25, 2013 17:12:05 GMT -5
A's lose again. Magic number for the 1 seed at 3 I believe
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Post by Guidas on Sept 25, 2013 17:15:53 GMT -5
LOS ANGELS!!!
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Post by nationinthesouth on Sept 25, 2013 19:53:49 GMT -5
Interesting to note that the Sox and Yankees are the only two MLB teams that havent had a pitcher reach base this season. Probably doesnt mean anything, but interesting.
Edit- And its apparently impossible to tag Salty out
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Post by mattpicard on Sept 25, 2013 20:32:46 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Sept 25, 2013 20:47:24 GMT -5
Peavy appears to be unsatisfied with the lead the Sox have given him.
Seriously, does anyone else think his much ballyhooed reversion to his old arm slot over the last 3 starts has left him less effective?
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Post by nationinthesouth on Sept 25, 2013 20:54:08 GMT -5
That was probably the happiest I've been on an opposing team homering against us this year. Fitting for Todd in his last home game ever. Love that guy. Even outside of Coors, the guy was an absolutely terrific player. Looking at his numbers (back of the bubble gum card numbers), with the Coors Field factor HOF worthy? |
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 25, 2013 20:54:50 GMT -5
Fiking with is arm angle has not worked
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Post by mattpicard on Sept 25, 2013 21:17:22 GMT -5
That was probably the happiest I've been on an opposing team homering against us this year. Fitting for Todd in his last home game ever. Love that guy. Even outside of Coors, the guy was an absolutely terrific player. Looking at his numbers (back of the bubble gum card numbers), with the Coors Field factor HOF worthy? It's definitely a tough case, and I can think it can be argued either way. Coors is always going to be used against him, and I think it may kill his case in many voters eyes, even if it's not completely fair. Check this out if you're looking for a succinct analysis of his case for the HOF using some sabermetric tools: www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2013/9/21/4753970/todd-helton-hall-of-fame-cooperstown-rockies More simple numbers? <400 HR and <3,000 hits will hurt, and it's too bad he didn't get more notoriety across the league. Helton from 1998-2007: .332/.432/.585/1.017, 144 OPS+, 972/749 BB/K. Dude was a beast, even with Coors inflating those numbers. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 25, 2013 21:27:35 GMT -5
I think he gets in, but not first ballot. (Which is a thing that I hate, but that's a discussion for another time).
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Post by dfwsox on Sept 25, 2013 21:37:50 GMT -5
Wmb loves driving ball to rf. Game over.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 25, 2013 21:38:30 GMT -5
I know it's Coors, but that was just easy oppo power by Middlebrooks. Very nice.
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Post by iakovos11 on Sept 25, 2013 21:39:29 GMT -5
Earl Weaver ball tonight
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