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Post by tonyc on Nov 5, 2013 20:24:55 GMT -5
I agree with pretty much everyone in terms of what they'll do. I loved Workman's three starts and wish they would keep him as a starter- feel his size, command and composure are indeed "Peavy-like", as Farrell had mentioned. Rubby needs to be given an opportunity for a post Tommy John bump as he has rare stuff, but I agree with Chris that he'll ultimately end up in the pen. Hank I do differ re: Webster, whom I feel due to his stuff and having progressed futher than the other prospects (Renaudo, Barnes) of comparable age, should be the top pitching prospect on soxprospects. His fastball/changeup combo remind me of Wacha- all the rest of the starters have good but not brilliant stuff.
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Post by wcp3 on Nov 5, 2013 20:29:58 GMT -5
Workman - stretch him out in Spring Training. He becomes to new Aceves (spot starter if needed, reliever after the inevitable injury in the bullpen), albeit with a level head on his shoulders.
Britton - I think he should start the year in Boston. I like better than Morales.
Rubby - agree with Chris ... stretch him out, but ultimately he ends up being a reliever.
Wright - DFA
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 6, 2013 12:50:57 GMT -5
My thoughts: Workman: stretch him out in Spring Training, but I think he makes the MLB team as a reliever if he's not traded. Britton: don't even stretch him out. He starts in Pawtucket refining his craft in the bullpen. rides I-95 shuttle. Rubby: Stretch him out, but I wonder about his ability to start. I think he's made a full-time reliever by the end of the year. Webster: Sixth starter. Pawtucket rotation. Wright: I think having a knuckleball reliever is a terrible idea as a general proposition. Basically need to enter a clean inning and so forth. Stays a starter for better or worse. I agree with all of this except the Workman part. I start Workman in AAA as a starter and use him as the teams true 6th starter along with Webster. I would separate them in the Pawtucket rotation to cover your bases. For a AAA guy to fill in sometimes you need them to be on close tot he same schedule as a major league starter, depending on the situation so having more than 1 of those guys down there is very helpful. By having Workman, Webster, Ruby and Wright in the AAA rotation you have impeccable spot start coverage. My guess is the team signs a few relievers and some of those are going to be stick or you lose them sort of guys. Due to the nature of relievers being up and down, being able to carry and extra guy in the majors early on to see if he "sticks" is very valuable to overall depth. I'd much rather Workman waiting in the AAA wings as a starter in April/May + the extra major league reliever than get Workmans 12-15 relief innings and have less coverage in both the rotation and bullpen. I understand why they may starter him as a reliever out of the gate, but the 15 innings give or take don't matter as much to me as the other stuff early in the year. This all assumes there are more bodies. Take advantage of his options early it's a large part of his value.
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Post by ramireja on Nov 6, 2013 12:54:33 GMT -5
I agree with pretty much everyone in terms of what they'll do. I loved Workman's three starts and wish they would keep him as a starter- feel his size, command and composure are indeed "Peavy-like", as Farrell had mentioned. Rubby needs to be given an opportunity for a post Tommy John bump as he has rare stuff, but I agree with Chris that he'll ultimately end up in the pen. Hank I do differ re: Webster, whom I feel due to his stuff and having progressed futher than the other prospects (Renaudo, Barnes) of comparable age, should be the top pitching prospect on soxprospects. His fastball/changeup combo remind me of Wacha- all the rest of the starters have good but not brilliant stuff. Thank you. I agree completely and can't believe the general pessimism regarding his future based on 3 tough Boston starts. Do people realize the gains he made last year when comparing his 2012 season at Double-A to his 2013 season last year in Pawtucket?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 7, 2013 7:04:24 GMT -5
I agree with pretty much everyone in terms of what they'll do. I loved Workman's three starts and wish they would keep him as a starter- feel his size, command and composure are indeed "Peavy-like", as Farrell had mentioned. Rubby needs to be given an opportunity for a post Tommy John bump as he has rare stuff, but I agree with Chris that he'll ultimately end up in the pen. Hank I do differ re: Webster, whom I feel due to his stuff and having progressed futher than the other prospects (Renaudo, Barnes) of comparable age, should be the top pitching prospect on soxprospects. His fastball/changeup combo remind me of Wacha- all the rest of the starters have good but not brilliant stuff. Thank you. I agree completely and can't believe the general pessimism regarding his future based on 3 tough Boston starts. Do people realize the gains he made last year when comparing his 2012 season at Double-A to his 2013 season last year in Pawtucket? He made progress but still has major, major issues battling with his command, and that's not just talking about his Boston starts. It's tough to parse it out of his final line (although the 3.7 BB/9 he put up in Pawtucket is still high) because his command came and went in spurts. That said, I honestly think the guys behind Owens - Barnes, Ranaudo, Webster, Workman, and Rubby if he still qualified - can be defensibly ranked in a number of different orders, and that's why in the staff top 40 series Webster was ranked between 5th and 7th, between 2nd and 4th among pitchers.
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