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Post by taftreign on Dec 3, 2013 20:55:56 GMT -5
It will be a solid defensive outfield if it's LF Gardner, CF Ellsbury, RF Suzuki but not much power. They can plug and play Soriano and Wells who also can rotate in at DH. Although I bet the Yanks try to move Suzuki in a deal to free up a little cash and open up a hole for Soriano or Wells to play more regular and allow more freedom with the DH spot. Unless of course Cano leaves and they crazily think Soriano can play 2B again.
The team has filled the C position, have 1B taken care of and would appear to no longer need another OF. So the only free agent targets that would make sense (besides Cano) would be starting pitching (Tanaka, Garza, Jimenez,Santana),a left side infielder (Drew, Infante) and a bullpen arm/closer.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 3, 2013 20:56:07 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to do something to upstage the Yankees and win the off-season. Not signing any contract nearly this awful constitutes a win, but I get the feeling you were being sarcastic.
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Post by amfox1 on Dec 3, 2013 20:56:49 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to do something to upstage the Yankees and win the off-season. You should really learn how to use your italics function.
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Post by soxfan06 on Dec 3, 2013 20:56:51 GMT -5
The JBJ era begins now! I'm excited!
I'm also happy for Jacoby, he deserved a massive payday, sucks that it was with the MFY, but he was a good guy who helped us to 2 WS titles and manned a great CF. I'll miss him, but that contract is crazy.
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Post by soxfan06 on Dec 3, 2013 20:57:33 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to do something to upstage the Yankees and win the off-season. Says Theo Epstein
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Post by PedroKsBambino on Dec 3, 2013 20:58:33 GMT -5
Last year I remember teams getting the other team's first round pick as long as it wasn't in the top ten picks. Look at the draft last year. I also remember the Mets were fighting this bc they had 11th pick but it was due to someone not signing someone from the year before and MLB ruled they wouldn't have to give that pick up if they signed a comp free agent
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Post by Guidas on Dec 3, 2013 20:58:56 GMT -5
I don't think you have to worry about Jacoby signing with the NYY until the ARod decision is final. If the Yanks have to pay him his big money next year, no way will they commit another 100+million for a CF when they already have a good one. But, if they get out from under that contract, they might just throw him a huge deal. If Boras is smart, he'll wait until January to see what develops. And Boras is smart. Gardener is only signed for one more year. Other than him, they have a very old OF (Soriano, Ichiro, Wells) but two of those will be gone after 2014, and one could be moved despite Wells & Ichiro having no trade clauses. I'd worry until they don't sign him. Dammit. I really hate bing right on this one. it's Johnny Damon all over again. Dammit.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 3, 2013 20:59:03 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to do something to upstage the Yankees and win the off-season. You should really learn how to use your italics function. With italics it wouldn't have its desired effect I know how to use them
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 3, 2013 20:59:38 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to do something to upstage the Yankees and win the off-season. I'd rather keep winning championships.
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Post by templeusox on Dec 3, 2013 20:59:53 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to do something to upstage the Yankees and win the off-season. And that something is select a good player with the pick they just earned and stick to the process.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 3, 2013 21:01:14 GMT -5
It worked!!! hallelujah!!
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Post by mredsox89 on Dec 3, 2013 21:01:40 GMT -5
Tim BrownVerified account ?@tbrownyahoo There is, indeed, an option on an eighth year for Ellsbury, as contract is constituted at this moment
8th year option supposedly would bring deal to 8/169
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Post by mredsox89 on Dec 3, 2013 21:02:16 GMT -5
Last year I remember teams getting the other team's first round pick as long as it wasn't in the top ten picks. Look at the draft last year. I also remember the Mets were fighting this bc they had 11th pick but it was due to someone not signing someone from the year before and MLB ruled they wouldn't have to give that pick up if they signed a comp free agent You lose a pick if you sign a FA that has a QO attached. But it just goes away. Team who had the FA gets a pick after the 1st round
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Post by pedroelgrande on Dec 3, 2013 21:02:54 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to do something to upstage the Yankees and win the off-season. And that something is select a good player with the pick they just earned and stick to the process. Someone like......Brian Johnson? teeing you up here Temple.
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Post by taftreign on Dec 3, 2013 21:03:19 GMT -5
Mark Feinsand @feinsandnydn
Yankees deal with Ellsbury is seven years and $153 million. That's $12 million more than Crawford's contract.
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Post by pedey on Dec 3, 2013 21:03:27 GMT -5
Last year I remember teams getting the other team's first round pick as long as it wasn't in the top ten picks. Look at the draft last year. I also remember the Mets were fighting this bc they had 11th pick but it was due to someone not signing someone from the year before and MLB ruled they wouldn't have to give that pick up if they signed a comp free agent You lose a pick if you sign a FA that has a QO attached. But it just goes away. Team who had the FA gets a pick after the 1st round Is that a recent change in rules? The team whom lost the FA used to get the signing team's 1st round pick.
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Post by sibbysisti on Dec 3, 2013 21:03:55 GMT -5
When the Angels let Mark Texeira go in 2008, they drafted Mike Trout with the compensation pick. Let's hope the Red Sox draft the next Mike Trout with the Yankee's 1st round pick next year... Pick #18, not too shabby. Even if we got #18, which is not the case, what do the Braves get?
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Post by mredsox89 on Dec 3, 2013 21:05:30 GMT -5
You lose a pick if you sign a FA that has a QO attached. But it just goes away. Team who had the FA gets a pick after the 1st round Is that a recent change in rules? The team whom lost the FA used to get the signing team's 1st round pick. Yes. The most recent CBA
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Post by amfox1 on Dec 3, 2013 21:07:42 GMT -5
2014 Hankees Rotation (42.40 AAV + FA) - Sabathia (24.40 AAV), Kuroda (assume re-signed at 16.00 AAV), Pineda (arb1, assume 1.00 AAV), Nova (arb1, assume 1.00 AAV) + FA Bullpen (7.50 AAV + FA) - Robertson (arb3, assume 4.00 AAV), Phelps (min, 0.50 AAV), Kelley (arb2, assume 1.50 AAV), Warren (min, 0.50 AAV), Betances (min, 0.50 AAV), Claiborne (min, 0.50 AAV) + FA LHP Lineup (130.87 AAV + FA) – Ellsbury (21.87 AAV), Gardner (arb3, assume 4.00 AAV), Cano (assume re-signed at 25.00 AAV), Soriano (17.00 AAV), McCann (17.00 AAV), Teixeira (22.50 AAV), Jeter (17.00 AAV), Suzuki (6.50 AAV) + FA 3B Bench (22.10 AAV) - Cervelli (arb1, assume 1.00 AAV), Ryan (2.50 AAV), Nunez (min, assume 0.60 AAV), Wells (18.0 AAV)
This assumes Rodriguez is suspended for the entire 2014 season. Total AAV is 202.87 plus the cost of three free agents (a solid #2/3 starter, a LOOGY and a 3B), plus 17.00 AAV in benefits/40 man roster, less 36.24 AAV the team is owed from other teams. That gives the Yankees approximately $6 million to spend and remain under the luxury tax (even after assuming Cano/Kuroda signings).
If Cano is not re-signed (which is my assumption with the Ellsbury signing), they could trade for Brandon Phillips to play 2B and still have some room to fill out their roster. Maybe Vernon Wells will play 3B.
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Post by ray88h66 on Dec 3, 2013 21:08:11 GMT -5
Congrats to Jacoby. Hope you stay healthy, play well, and come in behind the Sox every year.
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Post by rangoon82 on Dec 3, 2013 21:08:38 GMT -5
FWIW the "forfeiture" section suggests the Yankees would forfeit a pick, at least if Im reading it right.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Dec 3, 2013 21:08:45 GMT -5
And that something is select a good player with the pick they just earned and stick to the process. Someone like......Brian Johnson? teeing you up here Temple. Jacoby himself was a comp pick. I can see the Yanks taking Drew as well. I wonder what corresponding moves we'll see from the Sox/Yanks - there is a distinct possibility Cano leaves. Hart would be nice. Its going to be fun watching Xander and Bradley on the team next year. 2-3 years from now its going to be REALLY fun to watch.
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Post by GyIantosca on Dec 3, 2013 21:08:57 GMT -5
The MFY'S can have our leftovers. He'll hit more homer's in that ban-box. So much for those awesome prospects the Yankee's have that Baseball America keeps telling us they have.
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Post by pedey on Dec 3, 2013 21:12:48 GMT -5
The MFY'S can have our leftovers. He'll hit more homer's in that ban-box. So much for those awesome prospects the Yankee's have that Baseball America keeps telling us they have. I agree. Signing Ellsbury isn't going to fix the yankees. They are still a very old team with a terrible farm system.
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Post by GyIantosca on Dec 3, 2013 21:12:50 GMT -5
The Red Sox need to do something to upstage the Yankees and win the off-season. Not signing any contract nearly this awful constitutes a win, but I get the feeling you were being sarcastic. We already did we won it all!!
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