badfishnbc
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Post by badfishnbc on Sept 20, 2012 8:30:22 GMT -5
The the risk of supressing the brilliant effort to nickname him "Bob" (seriously, seriously brilliant), I fully expect that the clubhouse will call him "Bogey."
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Post by remember04 on Sept 20, 2012 8:45:59 GMT -5
Not sure why Xander needs a nickname, he has one of those great first names that kind of stands by itself. Pedro, Nomar, Ichiro, Mariano, they didn't need a nickname, hopefully in 5 years everyone will know exactly who you are talking about when someone says Xander. Also, any thoughts why Xander isn't headed to the AFL this offseason? Thank you!!! And for the second part there are only so many per level per position and there are other guys they need to get a look at.
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Post by brendan98 on Sept 20, 2012 8:49:29 GMT -5
Not sure why Xander needs a nickname, he has one of those great first names that kind of stands by itself. Pedro, Nomar, Ichiro, Mariano, they didn't need a nickname, hopefully in 5 years everyone will know exactly who you are talking about when someone says Xander. Also, any thoughts why Xander isn't headed to the AFL this offseason? Thank you!!! And for the second part there are only so many per level per position and there are other guys they need to get a look at. I understand, just seems like the AFL has accelerated the path to the big leagues for some of these top prospects, but with Xander's age, I am guessing the AFL is more likely for him next year.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 20, 2012 12:06:15 GMT -5
In the 1980's, the San Francisco Chronicle had a contest to come up with a nickname for Joe Montana. One reader pointed out that Joe Montana already sounded like an action star name, so what he really needed was a "real name." The reader suggested "David W. Gibson." Montana thought it was funny, and at one point hung a David W. Gibson placard above his locker.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 20, 2012 12:17:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised either way whether Bogaerts does or doesn't get an MLB invite. He's probably right on the line and I see the arguments going in both directions.
If he does get the invite, he'll be one of the first few sent down so that he can continue to get reps.
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Post by okin15 on Sept 21, 2012 16:44:24 GMT -5
The problem with giving Xander an invite, is that if Bobby is still in town, and Bogaerts hits .500 in 4 at bats before being sent down, Valentine will whine all season about how he played really well in ST and should be on the roster.
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Post by bighead on Sept 22, 2012 15:33:51 GMT -5
The problem with giving Xander an invite, is that if Bobby is still in town, and Bogaerts hits .500 in 4 at bats before being sent down, Valentine will whine all season about how he played really well in ST and should be on the roster. Then pinch hit for him mid AB once he gets the call...
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Post by sibbysisti on Sept 23, 2012 10:04:17 GMT -5
Seemed like a level-headed kid in his interview after the org. awards ceremony yesterday.
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Post by remember04 on Sept 23, 2012 10:29:35 GMT -5
Seemed like a level-headed kid in his interview after the org. awards ceremony yesterday. That's something that has been mentioned here before or at least comments similar to it and that's what I like about him the most. He has the mentality to achieve his goals and the personality that makes you want to pull for him more.
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Post by azblue on Sept 23, 2012 11:11:30 GMT -5
Does Aruba have a winter league? IIRC, if there is a winter league in the country of origin of a foreign player he is not allowed to play in Arizona Fall League
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Post by iakovos11 on Sept 23, 2012 11:43:43 GMT -5
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 23, 2012 11:46:45 GMT -5
Also, any thoughts why Xander isn't headed to the AFL this offseason? I guess that after his first full season they want him to rest plus he could play in the WBC so my guess is rest mainly.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 23, 2012 12:00:01 GMT -5
It doesn't look like this has been posted yet - While many think it's a foregone conclusion that he'll move off shortstop, Xander doesn't think so. "Right now, I think I'm pretty good at shortstop," he said. "I work pretty hard to stick at the position. I work on my weight a lot to not get overweight. I really like my body, so I try to stay in shape. Hopefully it won't be difficult for me to stay the way I am." Providence Journal Thanks for the quote and the link. He said something along the same lines last year. I mentioned then that he seemed to be the only one who thought he could stay at SS. Interesting that at least a few others have now joined that one-man parade.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Sept 23, 2012 13:03:35 GMT -5
It doesn't look like this has been posted yet - While many think it's a foregone conclusion that he'll move off shortstop, Xander doesn't think so. "Right now, I think I'm pretty good at shortstop," he said. "I work pretty hard to stick at the position. I work on my weight a lot to not get overweight. I really like my body, so I try to stay in shape. Hopefully it won't be difficult for me to stay the way I am." Providence Journal Thanks for the quote and the link. He said something along the same lines last year. I mentioned then that he seemed to be the only one who thought he could stay at SS. Interesting that at least a few others have now joined that one-man parade. At least, his bat could force him into the major league lineup before his growth forces him off SS. But we probably shouldn't get ahead of ourselves. We've known other prospects who did well in their first short taste of AA, then got caught up to the next season at the same level. Xander hasn't really had any significant period of failure in his career yet; you never know but what he might falter coming out of the gate next year. Sure would be nice, though, to see someone sail through the minors and force his way into the big club's lineup a la a Pujols or Cabrera, or Trout this year. Can't expect that, though - we just have to wait and see.
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Post by stevebennett9f16 on Oct 1, 2012 12:03:55 GMT -5
Happy 20th birthday to Xander Bogaerts.
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 1, 2012 12:23:51 GMT -5
Remarkable, considering what this kid has accomplished as a teenager.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 1, 2012 15:07:40 GMT -5
One of my fondest hopes is on this date next year we are all having a discussion about him for the next spring, and if he is ready.
Love to see Xander ready for 2014 at 21 years old. How exciting would that be?
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Post by nomar on Oct 1, 2012 15:26:09 GMT -5
I think theres a good chance we see him next September.
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Post by elguapo on Oct 1, 2012 15:57:10 GMT -5
X had 21 Ks and 1 BB at Portland. I think he could use at least one full year in the high minors. Spring Training this year might be a good experience since, assuming all goes well, he will surely be in ST the following year.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 1, 2012 17:33:52 GMT -5
We have to be grateful to have Bogaerts on the Sox horizon. By age 21 or 22, if he continues to develop, he may be in Boston to stay. It is hard to ignore his offensive production. In person, he looks confident and in control of an at-bat. He generates a sense of excitement about what might happen. I remember watching Rizzo and having much the same feeling even when he was batting .260.
But, having seen Xander play SS in Portland, he does not, IMO, look nearly as fluid, natural or graceful as Hanley Ramirez did. Further, he appears to have average range and a short-armed, average velocity throw to first. From my limited observations, a move to third or elsewhere would be predicated as much on those factors as a concern about his "growing" out of the position.
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Post by futurefenwaystars on Oct 16, 2012 15:11:39 GMT -5
I am very enthusiastic about Xander's future. He seems to have all of the tools to be an impact player at the Major League level. (And boy do the Red Sox need an impact player!) I recently picked-up an awesome Xander Bogaerts autograph card with a patch from his 2012 Futures Game jersey on it that I feel compelled to share. futurefenwaystars.blogspot.com/2012/10/what-i-have-been-buying-lately-xander.html
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Post by nomar on Oct 17, 2012 15:26:30 GMT -5
I am very enthusiastic about Xander's future. He seems to have all of the tools to be an impact player at the Major League level. (And boy do the Red Sox need an impact player!) I recently picked-up an awesome Xander Bogaerts autograph card with a patch from his 2012 Futures Game jersey on it that I feel compelled to share. futurefenwaystars.blogspot.com/2012/10/what-i-have-been-buying-lately-xander.htmlThats awesome. Make sure to hold on to that. Hopefully it will be very valuable one day.
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Post by remember04 on Oct 30, 2012 8:40:30 GMT -5
Not to get this back on topic...okay on topic for the first time but how would Xanders skill set and possible physical growth translate to 2B? Mostly out of curiosity but in the "your the GM" thread I'd seriously think about trading Pedroia. The Patriot way is its better to part ways with a player a year early rather than a year late. Whenever this time is its approaching and he's been running his mouth lately. 2B is an easy position to upgrade to Pedroia with as most teams don't have anything close never mind better and this leaves a hole at 2B for us. What about Xander?
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Post by jioh on Oct 30, 2012 12:28:40 GMT -5
Not to get this back on topic...okay on topic for the first time but how would Xanders skill set and possible physical growth translate to 2B? Mostly out of curiosity but in the "your the GM" thread I'd seriously think about trading Pedroia. The Patriot way is its better to part ways with a player a year early rather than a year late. Whenever this time is its approaching and he's been running his mouth lately. 2B is an easy position to upgrade to Pedroia with as most teams don't have anything close never mind better and this leaves a hole at 2B for us. What about Xander? 2b is a little more forgiving than SS but not by much, and very few 6' 2" or taller guys succeed there. Robbie Cano is 6', 210. Robbie Alomar is 6' 184. Blue Jays briefly had a 6' 4" 2b, but he went on to play for the Celtics, Danny Ainge. Here is a 2008 discussion of 2b height: www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/more-2b3b-stuff/Tallest everyday 2b then were "Mark Grudzielanek or Chase Utley, both of whom stand 6’1." (also Jeff Kent) "The average second baseman is 5’11." For today cf. sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/rosters/position/1/2B.html
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Post by lasershow07 on Oct 30, 2012 12:54:30 GMT -5
I'm not sure the Fangraphs article you posted serves your point jioh: "To me, it appears that players are separated into 3B and 2B based on things that have little to do with their actual skills, and more about a proxy for what kind of package those skills come in. Perhaps there’s a competitive advantage here for a team that’s willing to take a 6’3 or 6’4 plus defender and shift them to second base instead of third base." www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/more-2b3b-stuff/
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