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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Jan 22, 2014 11:13:35 GMT -5
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Post by moonstone2 on Jan 22, 2014 14:35:40 GMT -5
I have played with the data a bit and have the following conclusions.
You would expect players who experience a large increase in year 1 to fall off in year 2 but not for the reasons that Verducci alludes to. Players who experience large increases in innings pitched tend to be those who were injured the previous year. You would expect that a player who was injured in year 1 but healthy in year 2 to experience a fall off in year 3 simply because players who were injured previously are more likely to be injured again.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 22, 2014 20:48:33 GMT -5
I think what the Nationalsdid with Strasburg was absurd. If you knew all along you were going to limit him, then it could have easily been handled so he was pitching in September and October. Simple and easy. It's a friable offense to have your best starter healthy sitting on the bench in the post season when, it wasn't disciplinary in nature.
I think pitch counts and innings limits are overrated and over emphasized. There is so much unknown about these things that it makes no sense to put so much stock into them. Strasburg still blew out his arm. Pitchers do all the time and will continue to do so. Teams should monitor them either strength tests, etc, but kept them pitch if all checks out. A pitcher shouldn't be limited to 100 pitches unless that pitcher loses his effectiveness after that number. Maybe one guys number is 90 and someone else's 115. The fact that the number of pitches they use is 100 tells me all I need to know. It's BS. Pitching is bad for an arm, that's about all we know.
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Post by bsout2 on Jan 22, 2014 21:38:39 GMT -5
This is what I think.
Baseball should invest a huge amount of money into actual research. 1. Develop a way to track a pitchers arm movement, speed, torque, etc. And I mean really track it, down through every motion in the arm. This could be done through the possible development of sleeve all pitchers are required to wear. It's 2014, the sleeve could be as thin an under armour t-shirt. Incorporate this with a computer system installed in every stadium that records the pitcher and all his movements, pitch counts, etc. 2. Collect data for 3-5 years and then start your research from there.
Crazy? Yep, but it would a scientific start.
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