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Post by The Town Sports Cards on Sept 20, 2012 10:17:05 GMT -5
I would love to see the Sox make a trade for him in the offseason. Obviously he would be tough to get being under team control for another 4 years, but with Pujols and Morales the Angels have a logjam at 1B. What kind of package would you build to try to get him? I'd be thinking to build something with Doubront to start. We have some SP depth in the 3-5 spots with Lackey, Morales, Aceves, Stewart, Hernandez, plus the usual lower level pitching FA's that can be picked up. Thoughts?
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Post by sibbysisti on Sept 20, 2012 10:58:32 GMT -5
There's also the possibility of eating Vernon Wells contract. He's due 21m for each of the next two years. He plays LF, a position of need on this club. That would diminish the package going to Anaheim.
Hate to lose Doubront. Twenty four yrs. old with great stuff and a full year of ML experience.
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Post by patrmac04 on Sept 20, 2012 11:00:08 GMT -5
They converted him to outfield and he hasn't had any trouble getting playing time as he has had full time at bats the past two years. I wouldn't mind getting a player who could play the outfield and first base for sure since we are now thin in those areas. That being said, if the Sox are going to go back to how they used to operate with a high on base percentage squad, then Mark might not be the ideal solution. His career OBP is only 301 even though he has good power numbers.
This team needs to get back to it's roots and pick up undervalued players who can grind out at bats like Kevin Millar, Bill Mueller, Bellhorn, Youks etc. I think a trade like that would fly in the face of that goal and I think the premier prospects needed to make the deal would be better utilized getting this team a stud starting pitcher. You don't trade away a young, controlled potential stud starting pitcher when that is your weakness.
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Post by patrmac04 on Sept 20, 2012 11:02:20 GMT -5
There's also the possibility of eating Vernon Wells contract. He's due 21m for each of the next two years. He plays LF, a position of need on this club. That would diminish the package going to Anaheim. Hate to lose Doubront. Twenty four yrs. old with great stuff and a full year of ML experience. See, now that is an idea. If the Sox pull a dodger's and eat a contract to get the player they really want... I would be for that. I just don't want to lose any of our top prospects unless the return is absolutely worth it.
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Post by dmaineah on Sept 20, 2012 12:10:52 GMT -5
I just don't see the Angels trading away Trumbo. And even if we took on Wells it would still take alot in terms of prospects, look at what it cost the Dodgers. Plus I think the Angels will let Hunter go freeing up a spot in the Outfield for Trumbo full time thus allowing Morales full time DH duties with Pujols at 1B
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Post by jdb on Sept 20, 2012 12:25:59 GMT -5
I say set our sights on Morales. I don't see them trading a middle of the order bat who makes the minimum. Maybe try for a package that gets Morales and CJ Cron. Should be in AA next year and could be ready by next season. He needs to get his BBs up but he only K'd 72 times in 525 ABs. www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=1B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=543068
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Post by beasleyrockah on Sept 20, 2012 21:34:24 GMT -5
I'd like him for the right cost (obviously), but the discussion here seems way off. He isn't good enough to justify taking on Wells contract, so talking about giving up prospects in addition seems crazy. It would essentially be paying Mark Trumbo $20m+ each of the next two seasons, except it would be worse, because Vernon Wells would have to come too.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on Sept 21, 2012 7:24:25 GMT -5
Do people realize how absurdly bad Vernon Wells is? .258 OBP over his last two years. TWO-FIFTY-EIGHT. From a LEFT FIELDER. He's like Carl Crawford, but much worse and without the upside. And he costs just as much.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Sept 21, 2012 15:49:34 GMT -5
For Trumbo - we would likely be buying high AND we would would have to blow the Angels away because they have no reason to trade him.
They aren't exactly a struggling small market team; so taking on the corpse of Vernon Wells isn't going to get it done.
Morales is probably the guy we should target as he hasn't rebounded yet to his pre-injury MVP level. Perhaps Doubront + more could make him obtainable.
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Post by larrycook on Sept 24, 2012 13:03:12 GMT -5
This team needs to get back to it's roots and pick up undervalued players who can grind out at bats like Kevin Millar, Bill Mueller, Bellhorn, Youks etc. I think a trade like that would fly in the face of that goal I agree 100%; high on base with low K rate is the type player we hould be hunting in the undervalued market. Durability might be a nice extra added bonus as well. Save our prospects for an ace to put at the top of the rotation.
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Post by elguapo on Oct 3, 2012 9:43:01 GMT -5
I would trade Mortensen for him straight up. Otherwise, no dice.
His career wOBA is lower than Youk's this year with the White Sox. And he's limited to 1B/DH.
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