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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 8, 2014 7:41:01 GMT -5
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 8, 2014 12:20:50 GMT -5
Salem Lineup
Matty Johnson RF
Jonathan Roof LF
Carson Blair C
David Chester 1B
Matt Gedman DH
Mario Martinez 3B
Aneury Tavarez CF
Ryan Dent SS
Reed Gragnani 2B
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 8, 2014 12:43:13 GMT -5
Hey, did anyone know that Salem is currently on a 1415-game winning streak spanning two seasons? That a win tonight ties the 1950 Winston-Salem Cardinals for the longest winning streak in Carolina League history? I certainly didn't ... here's Evan Lepler: Well, whaddya know ... |
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Post by Jonathan Singer on Apr 8, 2014 12:44:25 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 8, 2014 12:50:20 GMT -5
Cecchini shouldn't be allowed days off
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 8, 2014 12:52:25 GMT -5
The only man who can keep Garin Cecchini off the bases is Kevin Boles.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Apr 8, 2014 13:17:39 GMT -5
The only man who can keep Garin Cecchini off the bases is Kevin Boles. Yeah Kevin Boles is our Dean Smith. |
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Post by taftreign on Apr 8, 2014 13:18:44 GMT -5
Excellent time to get some pinch hit experience for later in the season.
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Post by oilcansman on Apr 8, 2014 15:18:13 GMT -5
It's remarkable how the prospect inventory collapses below Portland. Paw and Portland look great but after that it's pretty bleak. Johnson and Littrell are interesting but neither has big upside. I'm beginning to worry about the Sox post Theo/Mcleod drafting.
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Post by jmei on Apr 8, 2014 15:21:53 GMT -5
That might be somewhat true on the position player side, but the pitching side is stacked. Each of the pitching staffs in Salem, Greenville, and Lowell contain at least three or four arms with clear major-league potential.
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Post by oilcansman on Apr 8, 2014 15:37:11 GMT -5
Well, I've been spoiled a bit. I don't agree agree with your pitching assessment but I can see why you are intrigued. Mercedes is interesting, and the others seem to have upside of bullpen pitchers. Littrell appears to be the only starter, although Johnson is a late developing mixed college pitcher/position player and could make a quick climb.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 8, 2014 15:57:59 GMT -5
McLeod was gone for the 2011 draft class that produced Barnes, Owens, JBJ, Swihart, and Betts (plus Kukuk, Travis Shaw, etc). That was still Theo, but Cherington's drafts are too new to really judge, even if you think the GM and not the amateur scouting director runs those things.
But, even so, gotta agree with jmei on this one, there are definitely many quality arms in the lower minors ... Light, Mercedes, Johnson, Kukuk, Callahan, Stank, Myles Smith, Ball, and on and on. Almost no quality position player prospects that were drafted (as opposed to signed internationally), but it's hard to draft good position player prospects when you don't actually draft any position player prospects ...
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 8, 2014 16:26:44 GMT -5
Greenville is more interesting than last year before Mookie went Tim Raines on us. They may not be highly rated prospect yet but Margot, Rijo, Callahan, Kukuk, Stankiewicz, Smith etc. are worth following, some could be "highly" rated by this time next year.
As for the post Theo draft I think it's way too early. Most of the same people remain here so the proces is the same with a few tweaks here and there. Amiel Sawdaye runs that and has been in the organization a long time. Also I think we are begining to see the effects of the new draft rules. Had they been able to sign Ryan Boldt or Alex Bregman to name two the system would be more "sexy" for some.
Where I think Cherington has put his stamp is with his International staff, making big changes and growing the staff. It's only been two years so there is no way to judge if it's been good or bad but so far there is not much to argue with. It takes years to read that and even then what criteria is going to be used to judge? It's on the eye of the beholder.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Apr 8, 2014 16:40:14 GMT -5
The only man who can keep Garin Cecchini off the bases is Kevin Boles. Yeah Kevin Boles is our Dean Smith. Will get his own line of spikes and they'll be called; "Dirt Chicks." |
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 8, 2014 16:47:39 GMT -5
Greenville is more interesting than last year before Mookie went Tim Raines on us. They may not be highly rated prospect yet but Margot, Rijo, Callahan, Kukuk, Stankiewicz, Smith etc. are worth following, some could be "highly" rated by this time next year. As for the post Theo draft I think it's way too early. Most of the same people remain here so the proces is the same with a few tweaks here and there. Amiel Sawdaye runs that and has been in the organization a long time. Also I think we are begining to see the effects of the new draft rules. Had they been able to sign Ryan Boldt or Alex Bregman to name two the system would be more "sexy" for some. Where I think Cherington has put his stamp is with his International staff, making big changes and growing the staff. It's only been two years so there is no way to judge if it's been good or bad but so far there is not much to argue with. It takes years to read that and even then what criteria is going to be used to judge? It's on the eye of the beholder. That is the biggest thing. I don't think it is too early to say the past few drafts aren't as strong as some in the years prior, but blaming it on the management team is misguided. They are working with a completely different set of rules that doesn't allow them to exploit the system the way the team had done under the old CBA. |
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Post by kman22 on Apr 8, 2014 17:22:14 GMT -5
Greenville is more interesting than last year before Mookie went Tim Raines on us. They may not be highly rated prospect yet but Margot, Rijo, Callahan, Kukuk, Stankiewicz, Smith etc. are worth following, some could be "highly" rated by this time next year. As for the post Theo draft I think it's way too early. Most of the same people remain here so the proces is the same with a few tweaks here and there. Amiel Sawdaye runs that and has been in the organization a long time. Also I think we are begining to see the effects of the new draft rules. Had they been able to sign Ryan Boldt or Alex Bregman to name two the system would be more "sexy" for some.Where I think Cherington has put his stamp is with his International staff, making big changes and growing the staff. It's only been two years so there is no way to judge if it's been good or bad but so far there is not much to argue with. It takes years to read that and even then what criteria is going to be used to judge? It's on the eye of the beholder. I can't imagine either of those players making it to where the Red Sox drafted them if it weren't for the new draft rules. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 8, 2014 17:43:28 GMT -5
1) I was just using the names to give an idea 2) plenty of players droped even in the old system, especially when there was injury involved like these two players 3) It is clear they liked Boldt a lot given all they did to try to sign him so in the old rules they would have poped him earlier ala Cecchini.
Anyways the point I was making is that the draft rules have negatively affected their ability to do what they did under Theo.
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Post by okin15 on Apr 8, 2014 17:59:16 GMT -5
I know this has been beaten to $hit, but for the money they spent, Denney and Ball could/should have been in Greenville.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Apr 8, 2014 18:05:26 GMT -5
They will at some point in the nexrt five years. Sit tight and wait it out.
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Post by amfox1 on Apr 8, 2014 18:17:19 GMT -5
I know this has been beaten to $hit, but for the money they spent, Denney and Ball could/should have been in Greenville. |
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Post by okin15 on Apr 8, 2014 18:20:11 GMT -5
Well, in the news under red-sox-who-DON'T-suck are Brentz with a 2b, Meneses and Hassan walking in each of their plate appearances so far, and Webster who has 3 innings of 1-WHIP ball (can that be a thing?) No K's for him, but efficiency with 31/46 pitches for strikes.
ADD: Holt has also yet to make an out.
And is there any chance Meneses is a prospect?
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Post by azblue on Apr 8, 2014 18:27:41 GMT -5
Having a black hole in Salem is little price to pay for the strength at AAA and AA. Typically, the void is at the AAA level with the top advanced prospects at AA and a good mix between High A and full season Low A.
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Post by iakovos11 on Apr 8, 2014 19:02:15 GMT -5
Maybe Brian Johnson is more ready for AA than Mike McCarthey
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Post by wskeleton76 on Apr 8, 2014 19:04:19 GMT -5
Maybe Brian Johnson is more ready for AA than Mike McCarthey No doubt. Hope not to see Mike McCarthey start for Portland any more. |
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Post by JackieWilsonsaid on Apr 8, 2014 19:05:05 GMT -5
Did Vasquez switch jerseys withLavarnway or something?
I can't believe they keep trying to run on him.
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