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Post by mjammz on Jul 7, 2014 8:25:08 GMT -5
Baseball America's Midseason Top 50 list: www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-50-injury-cant-knock-buxton-1/#14 - Blake Swihart ("Better bat potential, improved defense have made Swihart the game’s best catching prospect.") #15 - Henry Owens ("Pitched a rain-shortened no-hitter on Opening Day, and he has remained nearly unhittable ever since.") Mookies promotion keeps him off the list, curious where he would have landed.
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Post by jmei on Jul 7, 2014 8:54:06 GMT -5
Baseball Propectus' Midseason top 50 list: www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=24076 (sub. required) Podcast discussing the Midseason Top 50: www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2407922. Blake Swihart (#73 preseason; excerpt: "The previous gaze off into the horizon of a potential first-division regular is rapidly becoming a reality, which is driving this prospect’s sizable jump up the rankings.") 40. Henry Owens (#69 preseason; excerpt: "This isn’t a front-of-the-rotation arm, but one with the stuff and poise to be successful in a starter’s role over the long run.") Michael Chavis is mentioned as a 2014 draftee who would be in the mix for this winter's top 101.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 7, 2014 9:04:24 GMT -5
Baseball America's Midseason Top 50 list: www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-50-injury-cant-knock-buxton-1/#14 - Blake Swihart ("Better bat potential, improved defense have made Swihart the game’s best catching prospect.") #15 - Henry Owens ("Pitched a rain-shortened no-hitter on Opening Day, and he has remained nearly unhittable ever since.") Mookies promotion keeps him off the list, curious where he would have landed. Wow! Great rankings by BA. Higher than I expected but I'll take it.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 7, 2014 9:09:56 GMT -5
Baseball America's Midseason Top 50 list: www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-50-injury-cant-knock-buxton-1/#14 - Blake Swihart ("Better bat potential, improved defense have made Swihart the game’s best catching prospect.") #15 - Henry Owens ("Pitched a rain-shortened no-hitter on Opening Day, and he has remained nearly unhittable ever since.") Mookies promotion keeps him off the list, curious where he would have landed. I'd bet above those two. Pretty amazing in the year Xander graduated.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 7, 2014 9:11:50 GMT -5
Baseball America's Midseason Top 50 list: www.baseballamerica.com/minors/midseason-top-50-injury-cant-knock-buxton-1/#14 - Blake Swihart ("Better bat potential, improved defense have made Swihart the game’s best catching prospect.") #15 - Henry Owens ("Pitched a rain-shortened no-hitter on Opening Day, and he has remained nearly unhittable ever since.") Mookies promotion keeps him off the list, curious where he would have landed. I'd bet above those two. Pretty amazing in the year Xander graduated. And, Mookie was about 10 days from cracking their Top 10. I would think. What a draft class in 2011!
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jul 7, 2014 9:29:30 GMT -5
Nice to see those 2 honored. Longshot possibility could have been Coyle having skyrocketed up one of the lists perhaps, or maybe over the winter if he doesn't go into one of his slumps?
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Post by templeusox on Jul 7, 2014 9:53:14 GMT -5
Will be nice when we eventually trade for Josh Bell.
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Post by mjay24 on Jul 7, 2014 9:53:34 GMT -5
All I have to say is I hope Pat Light can figure out to be a high leverage reliever someday because we could have and should have taken Joey Gallo who is mashing right now and is number 4 on that list . . . SMH
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 7, 2014 10:01:21 GMT -5
All I have to say is I hope Pat Light can figure out to be a high leverage reliever someday because we could have and should have taken Joey Gallo who is mashing right now and is number 4 on that list . . . SMH And every team in the majors should have taken Owens, Swihart and Mookie before we did. Can't hit a home run on every pick.
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Post by jmei on Jul 7, 2014 10:05:13 GMT -5
All I have to say is I hope Pat Light can figure out to be a high leverage reliever someday because we could have and should have taken Joey Gallo who is mashing right now and is number 4 on that list . . . SMH Gallo's draft bonus: $2.25m Light's draft bonus: $1m Slot (37th pick): $1.4m Granted, that just means that the Red Sox could have taken Gallo and given him all their saved pool money instead of spending it on Ty Buttrey (who got $1.3m), but there were reasons that Boston passed on Gallo (high bonus demands, worries about the swing-and-miss in his bat, whether he would stick at 3B). In hindsight, he's answered those last two baseball-related questions positively and thus become one of the best prospects in baseball, but back in 2012, they were legitimate reasons to be wary of him.
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Post by mjay24 on Jul 7, 2014 10:07:01 GMT -5
Your right you could do that with every team every year but I wanted them to draft him so bad and I know he was talked about a lot on this board as well.
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Post by elguapo on Jul 7, 2014 10:08:12 GMT -5
Longshot possibility could have been Coyle having skyrocketed up one of the lists perhaps, or maybe over the winter if he doesn't go into one of his slumps? If he stays healthy, why not - top 100, anyway? He's a few PA from leading the Eastern League in OPS as a 22-year-old 2B, with his closest competition playing in the majors. I don't think he's really slumped since 2012 - IIRC he had a brief down patch last year directly before going on the DL.
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Post by jdb on Jul 7, 2014 10:12:34 GMT -5
Didn't someone from BA tweet last week that Betts would be a top 10-15 if he wasn't called up?
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 7, 2014 10:16:39 GMT -5
JJ Cooper tweeted that Mookie was "slated to be #12" before the promotion. So that gives us three top 15 guys (or top 16 technically since Mookie would push Owens down a spot).
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Post by suttree on Jul 7, 2014 10:22:15 GMT -5
I'm curious to see if Marrero cracks a top 100 in the offseason. Even with the emergence of Johnson I really think Marrero has quietly done the most to revive his prospect status.
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 7, 2014 10:24:35 GMT -5
First thing I did was look at the WC standings in both leagues and then crosscheck it with BA's list to dream about someone giving us a top 50 guy to rent Lester.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 7, 2014 10:29:52 GMT -5
Baseball Propectus' Midseason top 50 list: www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=24076 (sub. required) Podcast discussing the Midseason Top 50: www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2407922. Blake Swihart (#73 preseason; excerpt: "The previous gaze off into the horizon of a potential first-division regular is rapidly becoming a reality, which is driving this prospect’s sizable jump up the rankings.") 40. Henry Owens (#69 preseason; excerpt: "This isn’t a front-of-the-rotation arm, but one with the stuff and poise to be successful in a starter’s role over the long run.") Michael Chavis is mentioned as a 2014 draftee who would be in the mix for this winter's top 101. I'm amused that BP uses the phrase "front-of-the-rotation arm." Of course, Jason Neighborgall, to pick one of a hundred possible names from the past more or less at random, had a better arm than Greg Maddux. Almost every professional pitcher in history had a better arm than Jamie Moyer (in the second half of his career). Owens indeed does not have a front-of-the-rotation arm, if there even is such a thing, just as Koji doesn't have a closer's arm.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 7, 2014 10:40:20 GMT -5
Will be nice when we eventually trade for Josh Bell. And/or Joc Pederson. With Jansen struggling, I wonder what it would take beyond Koji. They could use Miller, actually, to give them a second LHR after Howell.
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Post by burythehammer on Jul 7, 2014 10:42:54 GMT -5
Maddux and Jamie Moyer. Those guys aren't outliers at all.
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Post by jmei on Jul 7, 2014 11:14:33 GMT -5
Jason Parks, on a chat about the BP top 50 rankings, said Betts would have ranked in the 10-15 range if eligible.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 7, 2014 11:52:30 GMT -5
Baseball Propectus' Midseason top 50 list: www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=24076 (sub. required) Podcast discussing the Midseason Top 50: www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2407922. Blake Swihart (#73 preseason; excerpt: "The previous gaze off into the horizon of a potential first-division regular is rapidly becoming a reality, which is driving this prospect’s sizable jump up the rankings.") 40. Henry Owens (#69 preseason; excerpt: "This isn’t a front-of-the-rotation arm, but one with the stuff and poise to be successful in a starter’s role over the long run.") Michael Chavis is mentioned as a 2014 draftee who would be in the mix for this winter's top 101. I'm amused that BP uses the phrase "front-of-the-rotation arm." Of course, Jason Neighborgall, to pick one of a hundred possible names from the past more or less at random, had a better arm than Greg Maddux. Almost every professional pitcher in history had a better arm than Jamie Moyer (in the second half of his career). Owens indeed does not have a front-of-the-rotation arm, if there even is such a thing, just as Koji doesn't have a closer's arm. Eric, in the nicest way I can say this, your thoughts on the subject have been made crystal clear.
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Post by ericmvan on Jul 7, 2014 12:32:21 GMT -5
Eric, in the nicest way I can say this, your thoughts on the subject have been made crystal clear. Yeah, how many homers does Abreu have now? I wish I could say that no dead horses were beaten in the production of this thread, but I plead guilty. Our biggest need right now is for a LH-hitting corner OFer (to balance Xander and Mookie), preerrably a RF, who can someday bat in the heart of the order. You hope that maybe one or two such guys exist who are currently blocked at the MLB level. That Pederson (who I understand projects more as an elite RF who can play CF in a pinch) and the switch-hitting Bell fit this description and are furthermore playing for contenders whose needs match up with what we have to sell -- that's a break. (Of course, Bell's a few years away.) I was going to speculate that the Cardinal's Stephen Piscotty (a RH bat) might be available if they viewed Oscar Taveras now as a RF rather than a CF, but I see that Taveras made his first start in CF yesterday.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 7, 2014 12:42:04 GMT -5
Eric, in the nicest way I can say this, your thoughts on the subject have been made crystal clear. Yeah, how many homers does Abreu have now? I wish I could say that no dead horses were beaten in the production of this thread, but I plead guilty. Our biggest need right now is for a LH-hitting corner OFer (to balance Xander and Mookie), preerrably a RF, who can someday bat in the heart of the order. You hope that maybe one or two such guys exist who are currently blocked at the MLB level. That Pederson (who I understand projects more as an elite RF who can play CF in a pinch) and the switch-hitting Bell fit this description and are furthermore playing for contenders whose needs match up with what we have to sell -- that's a break. (Of course, Bell's a few years away.) I was going to speculate that the Cardinal's Stephen Piscotty (a RH bat) might be available if they viewed Oscar Taveras now as a RF rather than a CF, but I see that Taveras made his first start in CF yesterday. I just mentioned Piscotty in the trade Lester thread. He and one of their young arms might be a decent return.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 7, 2014 12:46:42 GMT -5
General consensus is that Taveras has no shot to stick in cf, based on what I've read. Again, only what I've read though.
- Oscar Taveras fantasy owner
(Also, from a moderating standpoint, discussing guys on these lists is groovy, but let's all just make sure we continue to stay away from the dark, shadowy place of making trade proposals)
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Post by stevedillard on Jul 7, 2014 18:31:10 GMT -5
Braden Shipley 36 Clint Frazier 42 Austin Meadows 43
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