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Post by telson13 on Jun 10, 2015 16:54:54 GMT -5
Fwiw, Margot has started getting hot again. I'd like to see a little more HR power but Salem's not a great park for it. I'd love to see him earn a promotion and finish out the year in Portland. Regardless, he's still got that great range and he's stealing a bunch of bases.
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Post by nomar on Jun 10, 2015 18:32:43 GMT -5
He found his power stroke in mid-July last year. Plenty of time and there's no need to rush him whatsoever. I doubt he sees much time in Portland.
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Post by burythehammer on Jun 22, 2015 13:22:27 GMT -5
Promoted to Portland.
In 254 PA in Salem his line was 294/331/450/781.
For comparison's sake, Mookie had 211 PA in Salem and Xander had 435.
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Post by okin15 on Jun 22, 2015 13:34:05 GMT -5
You mean I can start paying attention to Maine's pro baseball team again?
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Post by GyIantosca on Jun 22, 2015 13:48:36 GMT -5
Travis, Devers, have to be shortly. I learned my lesson with pitching regarding starters. I believe they need a season at each level. I will advocate pushing a prospects starter sooner. On a aside note I feel bad for Cecchini I hope it's just a rut and he figures it out.
Have to get this off my back but it's been driving me crazy typing on IPad on Wifi lately . The keypad misses a letter or spellcheck screws it up.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jun 22, 2015 13:59:22 GMT -5
Margot's replacement? Is Danny Mars finally healthy? Or Derek Miller from Greenville?
Boy in will be nice to now finally "look" at the Portland box score. That is sure a hard to team to care about.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jun 22, 2015 14:01:27 GMT -5
Travis could definitely be promoted to Portland himself soon. He seems to be moving somewhat under radar, but he is does seem like the real deal as a hitter. Wouldn't be surprised if his power starts to increase.
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Post by brnichols19873 on Jun 22, 2015 15:18:49 GMT -5
I am extremly pleased to hear Margot is being called away from Salem as after taking a deep dive into his numbers it appears that the ballpark may have been limiting his off production, his home/road splits in 2015 surely show this as he was slashing just .233/.280/.333 at home while putting up .330/.365/.511in road games; both figures came in 28 games. While his lack of production athome vs away may just be a coincidence,a 2014, milb.com study on minor league park factors showed that Salem's Memorial Stadium was among the worst in the minors when it comes to home runs...using the data from the previous season, park factor ratings attempt to quantify the relative ease or difficulty of hitting at each ballpark in comparison to all the others in the league; where "1.000 is considered neutral and represented an equal number of runs/homers/hits at home as on the road. A factor over 1.000 favors hitters, while a factor under 1.000 favors pitchers." www.milb.com/documents/6/5/4/67319654/ballpark_factor_pl8i3ny2.pdf-Salem's Memorial Stadium was ranked 9th hardest of the 132 minor league stadiums in home run park factor with a rate of 0.651 ***And all three of Margots hrs came on the road while with Salem... - Portland's Hadlock Stadium ranked 36th easiest of the 132 with a hr park factor of 1.206 in addition, it has ranked #1 among the 12 Eastern league parks in doubles three of the past four years... So hopefully that slugging and those power numbers start to tick higher now that Margots away from Salem.
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Post by johnsilver52 on Jun 22, 2015 16:23:51 GMT -5
Travis could definitely be promoted to Portland himself soon. He seems to be moving somewhat under radar, but he is does seem like the real deal as a hitter. Wouldn't be surprised if his power starts to increase. As you wrote in another article also.. That Portland team is hard to watch.. Add Travis, along with Margot and it becomes interesting again.. Maybe Lin, who has finally begun to hit? It becomes a fairly exciting team once again like it was a couple of years back.
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Post by nomar on Jun 22, 2015 16:35:26 GMT -5
Margot's replacement? Is Danny Mars finally healthy? Or Derek Miller from Greenville? Boy in will be nice to now finally "look" at the Portland box score. That is sure a hard to team to care about. The GCL and Lowell will both have crowded OFs. I think we may see a fair amount of promotions before a normal depth chart can be formed at each level.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 22, 2015 16:45:31 GMT -5
I could certainly see either Miller or Meyers moving up, but don't think it a foregone conclusion. I'm fairly sure Franklin Guzman's on the phantom DL, so if they activate him that's four healthy OFs. Deiner Lopez has also been playing a lot of LF.
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Post by cologneredsox on Jun 22, 2015 17:25:25 GMT -5
Travis could definitely be promoted to Portland himself soon. He seems to be moving somewhat under radar, but he is does seem like the real deal as a hitter. Wouldn't be surprised if his power starts to increase. As you wrote in another article also.. That Portland team is hard to watch.. Add Travis, along with Margot and it becomes interesting again.. Maybe Lin, who has finally begun to hit? It becomes a fairly exciting team once again like it was a couple of years back. Last year actually... Mookie, swihart, Owens, Johnson, Erod, Marrero, coyle, Erod... Of course most of them graduated from midseason on...
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Post by edmundsoxtusmuskie on Jun 22, 2015 18:38:23 GMT -5
As you wrote in another article also.. That Portland team is hard to watch.. Add Travis, along with Margot and it becomes interesting again.. Maybe Lin, who has finally begun to hit? It becomes a fairly exciting team once again like it was a couple of years back. Last year actually... Mookie, swihart, Owens, Johnson, Erod, Marrero, coyle, Erod... Of course most of them graduated from midseason on... Last year was phenomenal for us and the team this year definitely cannot compare, but there are still some interesting players to watch. Of course I go to watch Margot but there are others too. Mercedes is interesting when his control doesn't hinder him and Celestino can be pretty good too. De La Cruz has some upside, but he's struggled this year after a pretty decent year last year and Younginer has been solid after promotion. The place isn't completely devoid of prospects but it's definitely quiet now.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jun 22, 2015 19:12:05 GMT -5
I am extremly pleased to hear Margot is being called away from Salem as after taking a deep dive into his numbers it appears that the ballpark may have been limiting his off production, his home/road splits in 2015 surely show this as he was slashing just .233/.280/.333 at home while putting up .330/.365/.511in road games; both figures came in 28 games. While his lack of production athome vs away may just be a coincidence,a 2014, milb.com study on minor league park factors showed that Salem's Memorial Stadium was among the worst in the minors when it comes to home runs...using the data from the previous season, park factor ratings attempt to quantify the relative ease or difficulty of hitting at each ballpark in comparison to all the others in the league; where "1.000 is considered neutral and represented an equal number of runs/homers/hits at home as on the road. A factor over 1.000 favors hitters, while a factor under 1.000 favors pitchers." www.milb.com/documents/6/5/4/67319654/ballpark_factor_pl8i3ny2.pdf-Salem's Memorial Stadium was ranked 9th hardest of the 132 minor league stadiums in home run park factor with a rate of 0.651 ***And all three of Margots hrs came on the road while with Salem... - Portland's Hadlock Stadium ranked 36th easiest of the 132 with a hr park factor of 1.206 in addition, it has ranked #1 among the 12 Eastern league parks in doubles three of the past four years... So hopefully that slugging and those power numbers start to tick higher now that Margots away from Salem. How much of his road stats are from the time when he was playing hurt? That's a major confounding factor in any study of his stats so far this year ... I'm pretty encouraged by his promotion. I think the Sox saw the same thing I saw: a guy who dominated when he was healthy. I'm annoyed, however, that they waited until after Portland's mid-June trip through Bowie but before Salem's July trip through Frederick for this move.
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Post by Nick Rabasco2 on Jun 22, 2015 19:33:14 GMT -5
At the game. Margot playing well in CF. Great jumps, made one terrific running grab on sinking liner going to his left. Almost made an awesome play against the wall, had it in his glove but it popped out as he hit the wall.
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Post by cologneredsox on Jul 9, 2015 10:00:59 GMT -5
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Post by okin15 on Jul 9, 2015 10:23:20 GMT -5
There's at least some chance that he's your 6th OF next year. If you assume Betts, HanRam, JBJ and Castillo in Boston, plus Brentz in AAA, Margot might be the guy you turn to in certain injury situations (but I guess not till later in the year.)
Certainly there are other guys who could be ahead of him, who wouldn't have the developmental concerns, and who would be ready to start the season rather than in August, (Holt, Nava, AAAA guys like Peguero/Berry, maybe Ramos or Cecchini) but given the cringe all those names give me, I think big league need is a legitimate thing for Margot and the Sox.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jul 9, 2015 10:32:07 GMT -5
By no means am I advocating a trade of Margot, but he has progressed so nicely in AA I think he can be considered that "top" prospect a team like the Phillies are after for Cole Hamels. I certainly have no idea what kind of offers Philadelphia is getting for their "ace", but a package highlighted at the top with Manuel Margot should make even Amaro at least think. Now I'm not sure Amaro does a lot of "thinking" and I agree with Ken Rosenthal that Amaro WILL BE fired, but an offer like Margot, Owens, and a couple of B prospects may have a decent chance of getting done. Shockingly the Red Sox are back in the race for the AL East. They will have a real good idea after this 3 game Yankee series this week. I didn't think, the way they were playing, that Ben Cherington would be looking to make a big splash by this trading deadline.....but it is getting more and more possible that they will now.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jul 9, 2015 10:38:55 GMT -5
Who is Ezra Jones? I'm not exactly sure what's the publishing model of minorleagueball right now ... are these like just member diaries kind of entries?
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Post by Smittyw on Jul 9, 2015 10:58:36 GMT -5
I thought including Margot in a Hamels trade would have been fair before the season, but now he's reaching the sort of prospect status where I'd hope to get something better for him than a pitcher who's going to be 32 next year and still owed a lot of money. Maybe that makes me a homer, but the more time goes by the less appealing Hamels seems.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 9, 2015 11:16:06 GMT -5
Who is Ezra Jones? I'm not exactly sure what's the publishing model of minorleagueball right now ... are these like just member diaries kind of entries? Some guy who lives in New York? www.minorleagueball.com/2015/6/23/8827519/im-ezra-jonesI dunno. I haven't read that site in a while. At least he has apparently seen him in person, which is better than most of what Sickels does.
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Post by danr on Jul 9, 2015 13:13:37 GMT -5
That Sickels piece on Rowdy Tellez is interesting. Several posters on this site were strong supporters of the Sox drafting Tellez. KLaw did not like him and wrote that he wouldn't hit. He seems to be proving his supporters right and the skeptics wrong. But he still has a long way to go.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 9, 2015 13:20:38 GMT -5
That Sickels piece on Rowdy Tellez is interesting. Several posters on this site were strong supporters of the Sox drafting Tellez. KLaw did not like him and wrote that he wouldn't hit. He seems to be proving his supporters right and the skeptics wrong. But he still has a long way to go. Based on looking at box scores. I'd be more interested in seeing what someone who has actually seen him play, or at least talked to someone who has seen him play, thinks.
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