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Post by charliezink16 on Sept 30, 2014 16:14:29 GMT -5
The Baseballist: Top 10 Power-Speed Prospects7. Manuel Margot, cf, Red Sox At this stage, Margot draws the most raves for his feel for stealing bases and playing center field, but don’t discount the potential for him to hit with at least average power down the road. He has gap power, a clean swing and a clear plan at the plate, so physical maturity could help him unlock his full potential.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 8, 2014 19:12:03 GMT -5
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Post by Guidas on Oct 8, 2014 22:08:39 GMT -5
Margot, Devers, Betts and Swihart were on my "only potential All Stars/prospects I would have to be very hard-pressed to part with" list earlier this summer. I would now add Rodriguez to that group. Have to be a very big talent at or nearing his peak coming back in a deal to move one of those guys, at least in my mind.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 8, 2014 23:00:22 GMT -5
Margot, Devers, Betts and Swihart were on my "only potential All Stars/prospects I would have to be very hard-pressed to part with" list earlier this summer. I would now add Rodriguez to that group. Have to be a very big talent at or nearing his peak coming back in a deal to move one of those guys, at least in my mind. There are hardly any scenarios, short of being blown away by an offer, where Rodriguez would be walking out the door. Hard throwing left handers who can touch 97, ones with decent secondary pitches, are still a rare breed despite all the hype about velocity. Seriously, this may be the real replacement for Lester, and he's not very far away. Coming to you from the great northwest
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 14, 2014 10:16:52 GMT -5
Margot, Devers, Betts and Swihart were on my "only potential All Stars/prospects I would have to be very hard-pressed to part with" list earlier this summer. I would now add Rodriguez to that group. Have to be a very big talent at or nearing his peak coming back in a deal to move one of those guys, at least in my mind. Xactly! For once please keep our up and comers. The Yankees can't afford patience with their history, hype and fandom. Look where they are! ....a William Howard Taft team. We can be patient. I don't care if we have to sit back for a year or two.....We would be way under the cap, the youngsters would be seasoned and we would be ready to add a few big pieces to make a several years' run.
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Post by soxfan1615 on Oct 14, 2014 10:21:41 GMT -5
Margot, Devers, Betts and Swihart were on my "only potential All Stars/prospects I would have to be very hard-pressed to part with" list earlier this summer. I would now add Rodriguez to that group. Have to be a very big talent at or nearing his peak coming back in a deal to move one of those guys, at least in my mind. Xactly! For once please keep our up and comers. The Yankees can't afford patience with their history, hype and fandom. Look where they are! ....a William Howard Taft team. We can be patient. I don't care if we have to sit back for a year or two.....We would be way under the cap, the youngsters would be seasoned and we would be ready to add a few big pieces to make a several years' run. Except we're going to lose a lot of core players and a lot of these prospects will fail, and our best prospects have already graduated so I'd expect us to be closer to contending now than in a few years
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Post by GyIantosca on Oct 14, 2014 11:05:46 GMT -5
Margot, Devers, Betts and Swihart were on my "only potential All Stars/prospects I would have to be very hard-pressed to part with" list earlier this summer. I would now add Rodriguez to that group. Have to be a very big talent at or nearing his peak coming back in a deal to move one of those guys, at least in my mind. Guidas you nailed it on the head. We have to be realistic with the prospects. But that core right now is the most exciting . I laugh at Gordon Edes and others willing to dump these guys to me. They don't realize how hard it is and look at the Bruins how bad they could use one or two top prospects coming up there system that can score.
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 14, 2014 15:06:28 GMT -5
Margot, Devers, Betts and Swihart were on my "only potential All Stars/prospects I would have to be very hard-pressed to part with" list earlier this summer. I would now add Rodriguez to that group. Have to be a very big talent at or nearing his peak coming back in a deal to move one of those guys, at least in my mind. Xactly! For once please keep our up and comers. The Yankees can't afford patience with their history, hype and fandom. Look where they are! ....a William Howard Taft team. We can be patient. I don't care if we have to sit back for a year or two.....We would be way under the cap, the youngsters would be seasoned and we would be ready to add a few big pieces to make a several years' run. Totally agree. We can only hope that the "Lucchino-win-at-all-cost" theory of management does not prevail. Cherington, I believe, while committed to winning in 2015 according to his statements, is realistic enough to recognize that we cannot sell the farm and jeopardize the future while flirting with the salary cap. A modest investment in free agents, combined with a reasonable extension for Cespedes, while continuing to develop the system's near ready prospects, is, IMO the way to move this franchise forward for 2015 and beyond. The team should improve next year without drastic manpower overhaul. At the end of next season, our top pitching prospects will have had another year of experience and should command a better return than if they were dealt now.
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Post by jmei on Oct 14, 2014 15:08:49 GMT -5
We're getting pretty off-topic here. If you want to discuss the front office's long-term strategy, feel free to start a new thread on the topic, but let's keep this thread to Margot.
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Post by dewey1972 on Nov 8, 2014 10:49:10 GMT -5
If anyone's interested, Kiley McDaniel discusses Margot's swing with Carson Cistulli in Friday's podcast. Discussion of Margot starts at 18:45. Discussion of the swing starts at 19:45.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Nov 8, 2014 14:28:19 GMT -5
We all say some variation of this many times, but still ... the Sox system really is deep. A few years ago, a guy like Manuel Margot would've been all we talked about here, a potential impact CFer who is developing very well at a very young age. But now ... in two years of this thread, we're only on the fourth page. Mookie probably filled four pages a day at some points in the last year.
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Post by cologneredsox on Apr 17, 2015 8:37:15 GMT -5
www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/04/16/manuel-margot-creating-buzz-salem/Y0SkIKcdXgYTbCYx2M9a0M/story.htmlI hope this is enpugh of a reason to bump his thread back on the first page... Margot could grow to be a (good) problem as early as late in the season, it seems. I know, more likely is next year, but he's not that far away from double a. With Mookie in town, Rusney and JBJ around, it still would bother me to draft him away. But if he keeps holding his own he should at least be able to net us a real good return, don't you think?
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Post by GyIantosca on Apr 17, 2015 8:51:23 GMT -5
This is what happens in a year or two. Margot takes over for Hanley, and Hanley goes to DH or possibly 1b. Reason why I throw this out because when Pablo was hurt in the game the other day Hanley told Farrell that he would go to third base. So if he would do 3b,why not 1b? Plus this is not gonna work if he gonna take his time getting balls in the corner in left field.
We will see moving forward but right now I see Margot going to AA in the near future and thank you Ben for holding on to the core prospects. We are gonna have a dynamic outfield in the near future.
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Post by oilcan73 on Apr 17, 2015 8:55:53 GMT -5
If he is a potential 5-tool player I would rather hold on to him and see how things play out. You can never have too much talent in the system. Victorino is in his last year and at some point after Ortiz retires there may be some shuffling around and Ramirez may very well end up at 3B or 1B. If Margot develops into a 15-20+ HR guy he may be a fit in RF or LF in the future with Castillo and Betts and JBJ slotted as the #4 OF. I like Ben's practice of holding on to prospects and only would see him trading some of the high tier guys for a young #1 starter who has yet to reach his prime.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 17, 2015 10:12:37 GMT -5
If he can maintain his current K% rate going forward, you'd have to be cautiously optimistic about him.
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 17, 2015 10:20:10 GMT -5
Margot could grow to be a (good) problem as early as late in the season, it seems. Wow, yeah, that would be really bad if we had to dump... uh... uhm... Blake Tekotte?
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Post by okin15 on Apr 17, 2015 10:25:11 GMT -5
More and more makes me think that one of these outfielders (and probably one of the younger ones unfortunately) is going to be trade bait come mid-season. Hopefully it's someone with more value to another club than to us (cough, JBJ.)
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Post by radiohix on Apr 17, 2015 12:41:55 GMT -5
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Post by jmei on Apr 17, 2015 13:24:55 GMT -5
It's nice to see that they compliment his "advanced approach."
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Post by telson13 on Apr 17, 2015 19:14:51 GMT -5
If he can maintain his current K% rate going forward, you'd have to be cautiously optimistic about him. (In all good humor and free of snarkiness) If he keeps up his current K rate this season, he'll have the greatest contact-hitting year in baseball history. Gotta love a guy who's hitting mid-300s with power and NO strikeouts. The Manuel Margot No-K watch is on. I'm betting he makes it to 33 PAs...
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Post by ianrs on Apr 17, 2015 21:02:42 GMT -5
Absolutely a promising start for Margot. Given the lack of prospects at Portland, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the call-up sooner rather than later. Though they'll probably want to get him at least 200-300 PA's at A+. Not sure what the precedent is for past prospects and promotions.
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Post by cologneredsox on Apr 18, 2015 3:14:17 GMT -5
Margot could grow to be a (good) problem as early as late in the season, it seems. Wow, yeah, that would be really bad if we had to dump... uh... uhm... Blake Tekotte? You had much more funny jokes before... Given the fact all people around here were thinking about how the outfield could work out BEGINNING in October, I don't see how we will not be thinking about where to fit Margot. Of course IF he reaches AAA and makes an impression over there in the second half.
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Post by okin15 on Apr 18, 2015 6:24:49 GMT -5
No way he makes it to AAA this year, but could absolutely be a mid-season promotion to AA. Would have to continue his great season so far though and really show that he needs a challenge.
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Post by raftsox on Apr 18, 2015 6:49:23 GMT -5
No way he makes it to AAA this year, but could absolutely be a mid-season promotion to AA. Would have to continue his great season so far though and really show that he needs a challenge. There's an outside chance of AAA this year. IF he gets an early promotion to AA and IF he does well and IF Pawtucket is in the playoffs they could promote him as a reward / feet wettening.
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Post by chavopepe2 on Apr 18, 2015 7:14:05 GMT -5
No way he makes it to AAA this year, but could absolutely be a mid-season promotion to AA. Would have to continue his great season so far though and really show that he needs a challenge. There's an outside chance of AAA this year. IF he gets an early promotion to AA and IF he does well and IF Pawtucket is in the playoffs they could promote him as a reward / feet wettening. I agree. It's unlikely, but not out of the question. Every year we see a promotion or two that people thought was impossible. This could be one of those.
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