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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Nov 17, 2014 17:53:27 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 3m3 minutes ago Milton native OF/1B Alex Hassan was today claimed off waivers from Bos by the Oakland Athletics.
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Nov 17, 2014 18:03:47 GMT -5
Man I feel like he's been in the system forever. Hopefully he can make a pretty good career for himself (except for when he plays the Red Sox of course)
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Post by mannofsteele on Nov 17, 2014 18:20:53 GMT -5
Gordon Edes ?@gordonedes 3m3 minutes ago Milton native OF/1B Alex Hassan was today claimed off waivers from Bos by the Oakland Athletics. Definitely the kind of guy Beane and company would be all after. Good luck Alex! You are a fun watch in Pawtucket!
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Post by ramireja on Nov 17, 2014 18:36:38 GMT -5
Reddick, Moss, Lowrie, Hassan, and Blair......its Little Boston in Oakland
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Post by jmei on Nov 17, 2014 18:58:05 GMT -5
I understand why they did so, but considering that Hassan has options left, there are more than a few names that I would have DFAed first-- think Drake Britton and Jemile Weeks, and probably Dan Butler as well (though Butler does have options left as well).
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Post by moonstone2 on Nov 17, 2014 19:28:03 GMT -5
I understand why they did so, but considering that Hassan has options left, there are more than a few names that I would have DFAed first-- think Drake Britton and Jemile Weeks, and probably Dan Butler as well (though Butler does have options left as well). You can't really DFA Britton because they have no LHRP other than him and Layne.....and Layne is very questionable. You have to bring him into camp and hope. Weeks plays a harder position, and how many corner outfielders do you really need?
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Post by jmei on Nov 17, 2014 19:41:56 GMT -5
I'm not too upset by it, but I do still disagree with the decision. (I'd probably have DFAed Lavarnway ahead of Hassan, too-- forgot he was an option.) It's just really hard to sneak a potentially useful player with options through waivers like Hassan, and I think he's far more likely to (a) have a positive major-league impact and (b) do so for the Red Sox than any of the above options.
Britton maybe has some upside, but he's out of options and I don't think he's sticking on the Opening Day roster (they will likely add a lefty reliever externally this offseason). He's 25 now and is coming off a season with more walks than strikeouts at Pawtucket. You're going to DFA him sooner or later, and I would have DFAed him sooner rather than later and held on to Hassan (knowing that I am likely to make a trade that further opens up 40-man room at some point this offseason that might let me keep him). Yes, there are some corner outfielders ahead of Hassan, but I think at least one of them will be traded, and there's a good chance he would have the first corner outfielder called up in case of injury (it's either him or Brentz right now).
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on Nov 17, 2014 20:09:46 GMT -5
I also think that Lavarnaway and Britton are two players who should've been DFA'd waaaayyy before Hassan. Keep him through the winter and maybe he breaks out in Spring, something that is almost an impossibility with Lavarnaway and Britton
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Post by sibbysisti on Nov 17, 2014 20:59:20 GMT -5
Not surprised that Billy would claim him and keep him on the 40 man to exploit Hassan's strengths. Hope this B.C. High Eagle flies with the As.
At least the Sox have a vacancy on the roster to promote a needy prospect....Kurcz, Celestino, Shaw, to name a few.
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Post by down225 on Nov 17, 2014 21:33:48 GMT -5
At least the Sox have a vacancy on the roster to promote a needy prospect....Kurcz, Celestino, Shaw, to name a few. The roster is now down to 35. With possible FA acquisitions/trades coming soon, and the deadline for protecting R5 eligible minor leaguers only 3 days away, the Sox need that space, and possibly more.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Nov 17, 2014 21:55:10 GMT -5
Hassan has a cumulative .391 OBP at all levels since being drafted by the Sox. No wonder Beane snatched him up. Would it be fair to call him Youkilis light?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Nov 17, 2014 21:56:37 GMT -5
Hassan has a cumulative .391 OBP at all levels since being drafted by the Sox. No wonder Beane snatched him up. Would it be fair to call him Youkilis light? ...depends on his sweat glands.
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Post by GyIantosca on Nov 17, 2014 22:14:45 GMT -5
They want to be us. There's 3 things missing though. 2004,2007,2013.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Nov 17, 2014 22:30:48 GMT -5
chances were slim to get Hassan thru waivers ... a trade to an NL club? This seems to imply there was no interest for the soon to be 27 year-old.
Lavarnway's star rises a bit! They want him for some reason. More tradable?
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Post by larrycook on Nov 17, 2014 22:30:59 GMT -5
I also think that Lavarnaway and Britton are two players who should've been DFA'd waaaayyy before Hassan. Keep him through the winter and maybe he breaks out in Spring, something that is almost an impossibility with Lavarnaway and Britton With all the outfielderson the roster, it makes sense to do Hassan first. I always felt Hassan just needed a chance.
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Post by bjb406 on Nov 18, 2014 4:41:14 GMT -5
Saw this coming like a year and a half ago. Billy Beane makes a living scooping up red sox players who never get a chance to succeed in boston.
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Post by dirtywater on Nov 18, 2014 8:35:40 GMT -5
Would I be correct in assuming A's were pretty far down the waiver wire? That means a lot of teams passed on Hassan for him to be snatched by the A's.
Also, seeing as the Red Sox didn't even see him as a catcher anymore, it is a bit perplexing that Lavarnway wasn't the first to be waived.
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Post by rjp313jr on Nov 18, 2014 8:48:06 GMT -5
If they got him through and he wasn't claimed, doesn't he have the option of being a free agent if he wanted? I know he's local but perhaps they knew he wasn't going to return anyways. Why would he? Makes little sense from his career perspective. He has more opportunity elsewhere.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 18, 2014 9:00:55 GMT -5
It hurts less if you just pretend the A's are the Red Sox West. Beane's cell phone is set to vibrate every time the Red Sox designate/give up on a young player. Consequently, Beane's always happy this time of year. The way I see it, eventually, the A's will also get Lavarnway and/or Butler, at least one of our young starting pitching prospects and at least one of Britton/Hembree/Wilson. And, yes, they'll all thrive in Oakland. Call it Beane's Law of Red Sox Impatience. It's not so much impatience, as it is that they sign guys like Johnny Gomes instead of giving guys like Hassan a chance in the majors because they can afford to do it.
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Post by James Dunne on Nov 18, 2014 9:07:47 GMT -5
Jonny Gomes hit .247/.344/.426 with 13 home runs in 312 at-bats and the Red Sox won the World Series because of it. Alex Hassan has one minor league season where he hit 13 home runs, and it was in 545 at-bats. Complaining that Gomes got to start over Nava against RHPs is legit. Complaining that the Red Sox signed Gomes after a season in which Hassan had a .365 SLG in Pawtucket is the kind of thing that leads to us all telling you that you don't understand marginal upgrades.
The upgrades at the margins that the 2013 Red Sox made - signing players like Gomes who were not stars but were improvements on what they had in place - are why they won the World Series.
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Post by mannofsteele on Nov 18, 2014 9:19:22 GMT -5
Lavarnway will have his name attached very shortly to a DFA tag. There's no way they keep him on the 40 man roster. I suppose weirder things have happened, but I will be overwhelmingly shocked if he is still on the 40 man roster come April 1st.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 18, 2014 9:53:33 GMT -5
Jonny Gomes hit .247/.344/.426 with 13 home runs in 312 at-bats and the Red Sox won the World Series because of it. Alex Hassan has one minor league season where he hit 13 home runs, and it was in 545 at-bats. Complaining that Gomes got to start over Nava against RHPs is legit. Complaining that the Red Sox signed Gomes after a season in which Hassan had a .365 SLG in Pawtucket is the kind of thing that leads to us all telling you that you don't understand marginal upgrades. The upgrades at the margins that the 2013 Red Sox made - signing players like Gomes who were not stars but were improvements on what they had in place - are why they won the World Series. I wasn't complaining about Gomes. I'm just saying the Red Sox have the luxury of signing him while the A's typically don't. The A's would use a guy like Hassan instead, which is exactly why they claimed him. The Red Sox would only use Hassan as extreme depth.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 18, 2014 9:55:56 GMT -5
I didn't even see the news about Hassan being DFA'ed off the 40. Are there any other moves so far?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 18, 2014 10:06:36 GMT -5
If they got him through and he wasn't claimed, doesn't he have the option of being a free agent if he wanted? I know he's local but perhaps they knew he wasn't going to return anyways. Why would he? Makes little sense from his career perspective. He has more opportunity elsewhere. I'm always fuzzy on this, but I believe they could have outrighted him. As for why he'd want to stick around, don't underestimate the effect of being in the organization that put resources into developing you versus one to whom you're just another MLFA. Not a huge thing, but it's a thing.
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Post by jimed14 on Nov 18, 2014 10:10:58 GMT -5
I'd expect Lavarnway to sign elsewhere as a MLFA, but I could see Britton signing with the PawSox. Lavarnway is never going to get a real shot at the majors with us. Britton easily could be back up if he pitches better.
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