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Post by dmaineah on Dec 1, 2014 10:41:12 GMT -5
Mookie Betts for Stephen Strasburg
Is this to big a price to pay from the Red Sox point considering Strasburg is a free agent in 2017 & Scott Boras is his Agent but not enough from the Nationals point because Betts is still so young and unproven for a proven #1 SP?
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 1, 2014 17:49:02 GMT -5
Why would the Nats even consider moving Strasburg for something near fair value at this point? The only way you'll get him is with a massive overpay.
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Post by blizzards39 on Dec 1, 2014 21:55:20 GMT -5
No way the Nats consider moving Strasburg. Now Zimmerman, that is a different. What would it take?? Mookie plus Raunado? Raunado, Owens, Johnson? Is he an ACE?
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 1, 2014 22:04:10 GMT -5
Strasburg had a 242:43 K:BB ratio last season. That's getting into Pedro territory. I don't think the Nationals would trade him for anyone who isn't named Trout.
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 2, 2014 15:41:28 GMT -5
Strasburg had a 242:43 K:BB ratio last season. That's getting into Pedro territory. I don't think the Nationals would trade him for anyone who isn't named Trout. Can we get Mookie to change his name? Mookie Trout for Stephen Strasburg
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Post by kmann on Dec 2, 2014 16:03:52 GMT -5
No way the Nats consider moving Strasburg. Now Zimmerman, that is a different. What would it take?? Mookie plus Raunado? Raunado, Owens, Johnson? Is he an ACE? No way you trade Mookie for a one-year rental.
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Post by redsox1534 on Dec 2, 2014 17:00:38 GMT -5
Ill tell you what it takes. Mookie Betts, Devin Marrero, One of Owens/Rodriguez at the least. Wouldnt be surprised if it cost us more then that
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 2, 2014 21:37:58 GMT -5
Nationals need a 2B. They're insisting on Betts in a Red Sox deal. Not saying Sox should or would give him up, but they're going to insist on Betts.
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 3, 2014 11:33:52 GMT -5
Ill tell you what it takes. Mookie Betts, Devin Marrero, One of Owens/Rodriguez at the least. Wouldnt be surprised if it cost us more then that I'd do that for Stephen Strasburg
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Post by nomar on Dec 3, 2014 13:47:28 GMT -5
We may need pitching more, but there's a good chance Mookie is equally as valuable as Strasburg, while being less injury prone. And Strasburg is going to cost huge money to extend/sign.
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 3, 2014 13:57:05 GMT -5
We may need pitching more, but there's a good chance Mookie is equally as valuable as Strasburg, while being less injury prone. And Strasburg is going to cost huge money to extend/sign. He will be a free agent in 2017 and only 28 years old (29 in July 2017). Perfect time to extend/sign. 8 years with 2 team options with an OPT OUT after 4. Would love to get him.
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Post by nomar on Dec 3, 2014 14:02:42 GMT -5
We may need pitching more, but there's a good chance Mookie is equally as valuable as Strasburg, while being less injury prone. And Strasburg is going to cost huge money to extend/sign. He will be a free agent in 2017 and only 28 years old (29 in July 2017). Perfect time to extend/sign. 8 years with 2 team options with an OPT OUT after 4. Would love to get him. He's extremely talented, but has an injury history an is a 3-4 WAR player by any measure. Mookie is likely just as valuable (at least) and will be under control for longer.
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 3, 2014 14:19:39 GMT -5
He will be a free agent in 2017 and only 28 years old (29 in July 2017). Perfect time to extend/sign. 8 years with 2 team options with an OPT OUT after 4. Would love to get him. He's extremely talented, but has an injury history an is a 3-4 WAR player by any measure. Mookie is likely just as valuable (at least) and will be under control for longer. You posted that you were willing to do Bogaerts + Owens + Rijo for Sale. How about for Strasburg? Strasburg is only 8 months older. Switch out Bogaerts for Betts. I'd do it.
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Post by nomar on Dec 3, 2014 14:44:01 GMT -5
He's extremely talented, but has an injury history an is a 3-4 WAR player by any measure. Mookie is likely just as valuable (at least) and will be under control for longer. You posted that you were willing to do Bogaerts + Owens + Rijo for Sale. How about for Strasburg? Strasburg is only 8 months older. Switch out Bogaerts for Betts. I'd do it. Sale is easily better than Strasburg and I believe I said that's what it would take regardless. Personally I wouldn't trade either barring someone like Harper being put on the block.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 3, 2014 17:35:36 GMT -5
Strasburg is not even in the same class as Sale. Sale is an elite top 5 in the whole league. Strasburg is a beast with his K's, just not more then a good number 2 at this point. Sales was 5th in WAR, Strasburg was 34th. Sales also has a great contract.
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Post by James Dunne on Dec 3, 2014 19:22:12 GMT -5
Strasburg is not even in the same class as Sale. Sale is an elite top 5 in the whole league. Strasburg is a beast with his K's, just not more then a good number 2 at this point. Sales was 5th in WAR, Strasburg was 34th. Sales also has a great contract. Sale had a higher K% in '14, Strasburg the lower BB%. Strasburg's ERA underperformed his peripherals last year, which has not been the case historically. He was 13th in FIP last season, which sounds about right. Not arguing that he's better than Sale, but he's probably closer to a top-10 pitcher than you're giving him credit for.
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