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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jan 30, 2015 15:43:10 GMT -5
Ken Rosenthal ?@ken_Rosenthal 1m1 minute ago Sources: #RedSox in agreement with free-agent reliever Alexi Ogando on a one-year, major-league contract, pending a physical.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 30, 2015 15:50:27 GMT -5
Could this be the power reliever so many have been yearning for? If he's healthy? U betcha!
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Post by radiohix on Jan 30, 2015 15:52:36 GMT -5
This means Workman will start the season in AAA right? Add: Of course, barring injuries/trades.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 30, 2015 15:52:47 GMT -5
@ken_Rosenthal: Source: #Red Sox in recent days have expressed a willingness to move RH reliever Edward Mujica, who will earn $4.75M this season.
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Post by nomar on Jan 30, 2015 15:56:25 GMT -5
Yes
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Post by jimoh on Jan 30, 2015 16:00:30 GMT -5
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Jan 30, 2015 16:04:45 GMT -5
I love him in a Freddy Krueger, er, Julian Tavarez roll on this team.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jan 30, 2015 16:05:52 GMT -5
Don't understand why they would move steady Eddy. He turned it around in the 2nd half and is perhaps one of the least volatile arms in the 'pen. It's not like Ogando is a sure thing, unless they feel he is 100% healthy.
I like the move. Could be a big time weapon if his is healthy.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 30, 2015 16:13:58 GMT -5
@ken_Rosenthal: Source: Ogando deal with #RedSox is one year, $1.5M guaranteed
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jan 30, 2015 16:20:19 GMT -5
Real good chance he doesn't pass the physical and even if he does there is no guarantee he will be good. I'd rather have Workman as of this moment.
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Post by moonstone2 on Jan 30, 2015 16:20:50 GMT -5
Don't like his health history and I don't see how he's better than guys they already have. You want to sign him to a minor league deal and see what he has fine, but how exactly does he make the team better even as the 7th guy in the pen?
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Post by seanleary001 on Jan 30, 2015 16:23:37 GMT -5
Rosenthal tweeted he could get up to 3 mil with incentives
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Post by mattpicard on Jan 30, 2015 16:27:25 GMT -5
Don't understand why they would move steady Eddy. He turned it around in the 2nd half and is perhaps one of the least volatile arms in the 'pen. It's not like Ogando is a sure thing, unless they feel he is 100% healthy. I like the move. Could be a big time weapon if his is healthy. Yeah, I like Mujica too. He's not dominant or anything, but he's more or less reliably serviceable and can pitch in a variety of roles. And while his 2014 was a disappointment, if you take away his terrible start and look at his numbers over his last 44 appearances, you get: 2.44 ERA .274/.313/.399/.712 .328 BABIP June-Sept/Oct FIP's of 2.80, 3.42, 2.34, and 2.82
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Post by seanleary001 on Jan 30, 2015 16:27:45 GMT -5
Don't like his health history and I don't see how he's better than guys they already have. You want to sign him to a minor league deal and see what he has fine, but how exactly does he make the team better even as the 7th guy in the pen? I read somewhere that he worked out for the Red Sox and Dodgers. BC would probably not give him a deal if he didn't believe in his health right?
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Post by moonstone2 on Jan 30, 2015 16:31:23 GMT -5
Don't like his health history and I don't see how he's better than guys they already have. You want to sign him to a minor league deal and see what he has fine, but how exactly does he make the team better even as the 7th guy in the pen? I read somewhere that he worked out for the Red Sox and Dodgers. BC would probably not give him a deal if he didn't believe in his health right? You can't glean much about a player's health for one workout. By the way, I am going to take Zeke Spruill in the death pool this time.
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on Jan 30, 2015 16:35:12 GMT -5
I have no problem with the sign. It makes sense to give him a flyer if he's healthy. I hate shoulder issues though and the Rangers could have locked him up for $2.6 mil, keeping him from consideration by any other team. The Rangers are not idiots. The upside of Ogando would seem to have been worth that to them if he were projected to be healthy enough to contribute substantially.
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Post by mattpicard on Jan 30, 2015 16:41:58 GMT -5
Real good chance he doesn't pass the physical and even if he does there is no guarantee he will be good. I'd rather have Workman as of this moment. Nick Cafardo ?@nickcafardo now4 seconds ago Alexi Ogando passed the physical. Probably a 7th inning guy in Sox bullpen
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Post by moonstone2 on Jan 30, 2015 16:49:22 GMT -5
Real good chance he doesn't pass the physical and even if he does there is no guarantee he will be good. I'd rather have Workman as of this moment. Nick Cafardo ?@nickcafardo now4 seconds ago Alexi Ogando passed the physical. Probably a 7th inning guy in Sox bullpen A player not passing a physical is very rare. If the front office wants the player, they are probably going to find a way to get him no matter what is in the physical. The exception has been the Orioles the last couple of years who flunked Grant Balfour and have flunked several others in the past.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Jan 30, 2015 16:49:40 GMT -5
I read somewhere that he worked out for the Red Sox and Dodgers. BC would probably not give him a deal if he didn't believe in his health right? You can't glean much about a player's health for one workout. By the way, I am going to take Zeke Spruill in the death pool this time.I'd like to buy the "Drake Britton" square. This goes back to the Britton v Layne contretemps around here, but I think Robbie Ross changes the calculus there and makes Britton eminently expendable. Maybe they try to trade him for a needed org guy or something ... But, in general, I think this is a fine move, as long as they don't get all cocky and deal Mujica because of this.
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Post by moonstone2 on Jan 30, 2015 17:05:27 GMT -5
You can't glean much about a player's health for one workout. By the way, I am going to take Zeke Spruill in the death pool this time.I'd like to buy the "Drake Britton" square. This goes back to the Britton v Layne contretemps around here, but I think Robbie Ross changes the calculus there and makes Britton eminently expendable. Maybe they try to trade him for a needed org guy or something ... But, in general, I think this is a fine move, as long as they don't get all cocky and deal Mujica because of this. I could see Britton being the guy, but it still seems to me that they are a little lighter on the lefty reliever side than they are on the righty reliever side even with the trade for Ross. They still do have Mitch Boggs and others from the right side. Further, I think that because he's a righty who doesn't have flashy stuff that they might be able to get Zeke through waivers.
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Post by moonstone2 on Jan 30, 2015 17:11:30 GMT -5
By they way.....a little shocked that Burke Badenhop still is sitting home jobless.
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Post by nomar on Jan 30, 2015 17:16:04 GMT -5
This move just highlights how dumb the Breslow move was. We're going to move Mujica now? Breslow is better vs RHP and is a significant step down from Mujica. We should never have given him a major league contract.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 30, 2015 17:16:24 GMT -5
Cool thing about this signing is they have him under control for 2016 as well for his final arb year.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jan 30, 2015 17:46:02 GMT -5
Don't understand why they would move steady Eddy. He turned it around in the 2nd half and is perhaps one of the least volatile arms in the 'pen. It's not like Ogando is a sure thing, unless they feel he is 100% healthy. I like the move. Could be a big time weapon if his is healthy. Yeah, I like Mujica too. He's not dominant or anything, but he's more or less reliably serviceable and can pitch in a variety of roles. And while his 2014 was a disappointment, if you take away his terrible start and look at his numbers over his last 44 appearances, you get: 2.44 ERA .274/.313/.399/.712 .328 BABIP June-Sept/Oct FIP's of 2.80, 3.42, 2.34, and 2.82 Unfortunately this looks more like small sample size static than an actual improvement. The only difference between Mujica's May-July mediocrity and Aug/Sept/Oct success (in 21 IPs) are the homers (By month: 1,3,1,1,0,0,0). His April does look like an aberration but he only appears to be a half win 3.5-4 ERA 6th/7th inning guy to me. (Steamer projects 0.2 fWAR). Only way I can see him being any better is if the zero homers over the last 2.5 months is true talent - but at a 21 IP samples size, and with all of his other numbers remaining consistent, I'm not buying it. Triple slash by Month: April .333/.400/.537 May .256/.293/.526 June .265/.314/.375 July .342/.341/.610 Aug .267/.313/.333 SepOct.267/.317/.368 Hoping that Ogando can make the comeback because otherwise the backend RPs(only Uehara and Tazawa) are going to be overworked quick.
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Post by mattpicard on Jan 30, 2015 19:01:33 GMT -5
Pete Abraham ?@peteabe 29s30 seconds ago #RedSox announce Ogando signing and DFA Drake Britton to make room on the 40-man roster.
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