steveofbradenton
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Post by steveofbradenton on Mar 13, 2015 14:03:00 GMT -5
What a shame, and no surprise. Every team attempts to see what makes their draftees "tick", but it is, at most, an opinion or a guess. Most of us on this board learned the following item eventually......a person almost never changes their stripes. Once a person makes a questionable decision, you need to watch closely if it a pattern. Jon Denny is probably the next in line.
I always thought I could motivate or change the productivity of one of my employees, but I found out pretty quickly....you either have it or you don't and few can become someone else.
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Post by jrffam05 on Mar 13, 2015 16:05:01 GMT -5
What a shame, and no surprise. Every team attempts to see what makes their draftees "tick", but it is, at most, an opinion or a guess. Most of us on this board learned the following item eventually...... a person almost never changes their stripes. Once a person makes a questionable decision, you need to watch closely if it a pattern. Jon Denny is probably the next in line. I always thought I could motivate or change the productivity of one of my employees, but I found out pretty quickly....you either have it or you don't and few can become someone else. I can't disagree with the bolded statement more. I guess it's very subjective. The only indicator we had with Kukuk was his DUI, and I'm sure you could find some examples of people you know with a DUI who has moved on to be successful. I could think of a recent president who had a DUI (without making this a political debate, can we just agree that becoming a US president should be considered a success) and a recent lefthanded relief pitcher who also had DUI. I'm sure if we were around Kukuk more we would see some signs that would point to him as an undesirable, but we really didn't have that context. I'm not trying to downplay a DUI, but I think it's a serious crime that could result from an innocent lapse of judgement. I would say a majority of DUI's don't start at home with someone saying "I'm going to get blasted and drive around, maybe kill someone". Moving off of DUI's, I know examples of bad students turning their grades around, drug addicts coming clean, criminals going straight and so on. I also know examples of people who grew up very privileged, or had been very straight edged, pissing their lives away. Like I said it's subjective. This isn't baseball or Red Sox related so I won't continue to post about it. Anyways.... I think Kukuk is a dirtbag and I'm happy he isn't part of this organization anymore. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 14, 2015 8:15:56 GMT -5
All he really said was once a bad choice is made they need to watch that person even closer, which is true. Maybe the wording of almost never changing is strong, but it's not way off base.
Keep in mind this is a baseball team so the standards of changing and those time frames are different. Criminals and drug addicts etc al can change but in most cases it's after a long battle with their demons especially an addict. A baseball team just shouldn't go through that type of fight. The player should for his life, but the Red Sox shouldn't in the hopes of getting something out of their player.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 14, 2015 9:37:25 GMT -5
It's hard enough to make it to the majors without dealing with all of this extra crap. I say that from both Kukuk's and the Red Sox' point of view.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 14, 2015 9:39:45 GMT -5
It's probably better for the person (Kukuk) for the team to release the player. He needs to learn how to be a person before he can think of being a player.
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