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Post by jmei on Jul 14, 2015 17:08:04 GMT -5
Just spitballing potential (2016) 1B options (which looks like the toughest hole to fill):
Carlos Santana is an intriguing trade option to me. Reasonable contract ($8.25m in 2016, $12m option for 2017), history of production (career 126 wRC+), reasonably young (just turned 29), switch hitter with relatively even platoon splits (career 134 wRC+ vs. L, 122 v. R). Not sure the Indians would move him, but they've got Brandon Moss on the roster, and they seem like a team that might want to shake it up.
If they don't want to move Santana, maybe they want to move Moss, who is entering his fourth arb year in 2016. He's regressed some offensively this year, but I'd be willing to bet on a bounce-back. Either way, I think one guy the Indians would want back in a trade is Jackie Bradley Jr., who would help fix a lot of their defensive issues.
Adam LaRoche is another bounce-back candidate, but he's old and owed a lot of money.
Adam Lind was discussed elsewhere. He'd be a fit it he came cheap, but I don't think he will.
Jon Singleton will be a popular name, and he's a high-risk, high-reward option. I'm skeptical that his strikeout gains are legit.
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Post by m1keyboots on Jul 14, 2015 17:49:05 GMT -5
I would love the Santana route, but I feel like something has to be done internally. To fix 3 positions to get to first base. I know you know. Hanley I feel, has to eat his pride and play 1st or third for a year and have Pablo possibly at first, unless you're willing to see these contracts put to less use than they can be. I wish Nap would just turn it around but I believe his offseason is affecting him
La Roche for maybe extreme short term. I like, and wish the names and numbers were right for guys like Brandon Belt or Mitch Moreland. I'm a big believer in average or better defensively with some pop but good obo skills at first. It's too much to try and get a miguel, jose abreu, goldy etc. Our first baseman doesn't have to hit 30 and be right handed for me. If he can play d and held Xander and whoever is at third out. Also first at fenway is important because liners down the rf line can easily be triples
Lots of jibberish in there but I like your santana idea or moving hanley/Pablo to first.very generic and vanilla. But I dont see shaw being a starter or sam travis more than some good trade fodder.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jul 14, 2015 20:04:04 GMT -5
Though he may be a year or so away, would love to pry Josh Bell away from the Pirates. Don't know what it would take at the deadline as Buch is no longer viable. Pit seems well armed in the BP, so Koji wouldn't interest them.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 14, 2015 20:39:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure he can do it. But, if Hanley can play 1b that's best for the team IMO. I don't really want to tie up any more money in position players. Need to sink everything into the pitching staff. Try Hanley at 1b. If he can handle it, great! We still have; Castillo, Da'za and JBJ for LF and RF. Possibly, Margot pushing for a spot late in 2016.
If Hanley can't play 1b, we always have Holt to play there util a suitable replacement is found. Move Hanley back to LF. Again, don't want to tie up money. Maybe we can get LaRoche next year and have Chisox eat some if we give them a decent prospect.
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Post by bmitchsox on Jul 14, 2015 23:26:58 GMT -5
They need to at least try Hanley at 1B in the offseason, and i would guess he's going to make a smooth transition. Then have Castillo/Betts/JBJ in OF with Margot taking over for Bradley at some point in the near future.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 14, 2015 23:37:15 GMT -5
There's also a good chance the Sox could very well go after Byung-Ho Park. He'd be a free agent solution that wouldn't require giving up any young talent or surrendering a draft pick.
He has good power, but the downside is that he strikes out a lot, which would hinder his BA.
I could be very wrong, but I have a feeling he will be the Sox 1b in 2016.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jul 15, 2015 11:45:03 GMT -5
The Sox have a relationship with the Nexen Heros, Park's team. That may be helpful in getting him posted and, ultimately signed.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jul 15, 2015 13:16:57 GMT -5
What about Chris Davis? He's a free agent. A deal should be a mid range offer and he still has a high upside. He'd be a nice stop gap solution for a few years. You can expect a low batting average, average OBP and higher than average SLG. Overall you can expect an OPS+ from 100 to 120. I need to learn more about his overall Defense.
What happens with Ortiz maybe more important than what happens with HRam. Hanley is more than likely with the club next year and at DH he does not hurt the club. I cannot see him making the mental /physical adjustment to the infield field anymore. Sandoval could be converted to 1B. The Sox should explore both a 1B and 3B option during the off season and because of the flexibility that Pablo gives you, the sox can have 2 solutions for one problem and not limit themselves.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 15, 2015 13:31:25 GMT -5
What about Chris Davis? He's a free agent. A deal should be a mid range offer and he still has a high upside. He'd be a nice stop gap solution for a few years. You can expect a low batting average, average OBP and higher than average SLG. Overall you can expect an OPS+ from 100 to 120. I need to learn more about his overall Defense.Not good. But I was also thinking of Davis as a viable option, but really depends on how other teams value him. I'm not sure if he's guaranteed a QO, but it's very likely, and there is probably a multi-year deal out there somewhere for him this offseason. If he was available on an inflated AAV 1 year deal to rebuild his value in Fenway, or a reasonable 2 year deal I would be interested, but that seems unlikely.
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Post by jmei on Jul 15, 2015 13:59:49 GMT -5
Davis is likely to get a QO, and I think it's unlikely he'd take a pillow-type deal unless he tanks in the second half. He's been decent this year, with a 117 wRC+ and on pace for a 2.5 fWAR season. However, I could see him being one of these guys whose market doesn't really develop and a team signs him in January/February for a reasonable number (think Michael Bourn).
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Post by ianrs on Jul 15, 2015 14:10:12 GMT -5
I don't care about how Byung-Ho Park's skills will translate to MLB... if he can hit at least one home run for the Red Sox with a bat flip as beautifully executed as the one below, I will be one happy fan. In all seriousness, I would like to sign Park, or trade for Santana. Ideally none of this will happen and Hanley will take 1B for a year before becoming DH.
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Post by wcsoxfan on Jul 15, 2015 15:06:02 GMT -5
Hanley is far and away my first choice. His biggest issue at SS was the erratic arm, and that shouldn't be a problem at 1B. Given his athleticism and size, a move to 1B shouldn't be difficult (admittedly I said the same thing last year about LF....). Keep in mind, he's here for 3+ more years and he only has to be 'not as detrimental defensively' to the team at 1B as he currently is in LF for it to be the right choice. I'm not sure where the 'swallow his pride' comment above came from, but considering that Hanley agreed to move from SS to LF this year, and he has played games at DH without any complaints that I have heard, the position he plays doesn't seem to be a major issue for him. Moving Hanley out of the OF would leave the following to man two OF spots: Holt, Castillo, Bradley, Craig, Brentz, Nava. I think Nava and Brentz could form a passable platoon, but if either Castillo or Bradley figure things out, then that's a pretty solid group even without Victorino or Hanley. This time next year I'm sure Margot's name will be in the conversation as well. Pablo at 1B would not be good. He would rank 23rd out of 26 qualified 1B this year in wOBA. As he was solid at 3rd for most of his career, I would rather roll the dice on him sticking there rather than rely on him being the strong half of a 2nd division 1B platoon. I like the 'Park' signing in conjunction to this as he represents some high-upside for the next 4 years and based on the cost the pirates paid for Kang, the risk may be limited. If Hanley works out at 1B then he can platoon with Ortiz and be a RHH off the bench. Although, here is one reason for concern: per www.overthemonster.com/2015/1/27/7926267/red-sox-scout-korean-star-first-baseman-byung-ho-park
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Post by ray88h66 on Jul 15, 2015 15:30:20 GMT -5
I just don't think Hanley cares enough about D to be even below average at 1st . If Papi is on the team next year( Likely) I'd try Hanley at first, but I'm not hopeful. 2nd choice, I'd platoon Hanley and Papi at DH and put up with Hanley's D in left. My preference is Hanley as full time DH but not likely to happen.
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Post by amfox1 on Jul 15, 2015 15:43:19 GMT -5
I think the Hanley-to-1B thoughts are wishcasting more than anything. If he cannot get the nuances of LF (and to my eye he is improving, albeit slowly), there is no chance he's going to get the technical aspects of 1B. You cannot hide a deficient defensive player at 1B - he'll cost us a lot more runs at 1B than in LF.
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Post by alnipper on Jul 15, 2015 16:11:12 GMT -5
Are there any Free-agent 3rd baseman who are able to stay at 3rd base and moved Pablo to first base?
I think Manuel will take 2 years to make the Red Sox team. I doubt the Red Sox are going to rush him like they did with Jackie Bradley Junior.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jul 15, 2015 18:31:36 GMT -5
Do you mean Manuel Margot? He's an OF. Not a strong 3B FA class; Freese, Sean Rodriguez, Gordon Beckham among others.
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Post by charliezink16 on Jul 16, 2015 0:11:48 GMT -5
Are there any Free-agent 3rd baseman who are able to stay at 3rd base and moved Pablo to first base? Juan Uribe & Aramis Ramirez are the best options, so no. Moving Pablo from 3B isn't smart either, he's a sound defensive 3rd baseman. I know he's had his struggles this year there, but he's been strong at the hot corner for the past month and has a whole career to back that up. One 1B I'd add to the list is Mitch Moreland. High BABIP & HR/FB numbers this year so maybe we'd be buying high, but Texas already has Prince at DH, Beltre at 3B, and an obvious 2016 home at 1B for Joey Gallo. Moreland will be entering his last arbitration eligible year, so maybe Texas looks to get something for him.
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Post by dcsoxfan on Jul 16, 2015 1:59:57 GMT -5
Given the Red Sox current salary commitments, I don't think they can afford a top of the rotation starter and a first baseman. If you believe, as I do, that they need another 200 quality innings from somewhere, their options are to find an internal (i.e. someone already under contract) option or a "discard" (i.e. underrated Minor Lesgue FA).
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Post by jdb on Jul 16, 2015 8:05:48 GMT -5
for some reason is still think guys like Justin Smoak or Jesus Montero could break out. A few weeks back guys at Over The Monster brought up Alonso from SD to although his line looks like Holt he may can hit for more power though. If we go get a top line SP we may need to bargain shop here.
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 16, 2015 8:41:51 GMT -5
FWIW, reports said Hanley was open to playing 1B (and 3B, SS, LF) when he signed.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 16, 2015 9:01:47 GMT -5
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Post by jrffam05 on Jul 16, 2015 9:12:37 GMT -5
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