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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Jan 2, 2016 15:09:45 GMT -5
So, after I screamed NO at the top of my lungs upon first thinking about Ethier, I started to wonder more about him in the event of a midseason trade if Rusney/JBJ are struggling mightily or someone incurs an injury. The money is extremely prohibitive, essentially 2/38 with the buyout, but given the dodgers use of him, he might come cheap[er] prospect/player wise, and the dodgers would probably send some cash our way as well.
What there is to like: He went back to mashing righties last year. Still a black hole against lefties. But he's under contract for 2 seasons, as is Chris Young, and they represent a pretty attractive platoon scenario-- Young .972 ops against lefties, Ethier .900 against righties in 2015. His defense has faded, but that would *hopefully* be mitigated by Fenway LF. Also, there's the admittedly probably insignificant idea that him and Pedroia are best buds. Pedroia needs no help being driven, but who knows.
What there is to hate: He's making a crapload of money, and you're essentially paying 21.5 million each season for two years for two halves of a platoon (assuming the dodgers kick in 3-4 mill a year). Injury prone.
So what does everyone think? I started thinking about potential targets in case our boatload of young talent doesn't pan out, and Ethier seemed like a guy that could potentially had for less of a cost than a lot of other guys while still providing some impact offensively. The money is bad, but it's also off the books after 2, and you likely wouldn't have to touch the highly prized prospects.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 2, 2016 16:50:10 GMT -5
I don't think you're crazy at all for considering Ethier for a LH OF corner bat. The Dodgers have him and Crawford, are paying both a ton, and can't get them into the lineup at the same time.
If money isn't that huge an object I think his acquisition cost would be highly reasonable and he'd be a good LH platoon mate for Castillo or Young and can be a short-term stop gap solution until Benintendi is ready.
Honestly, I've had the same thought re: Ethier. I'm not a huge fan of his, but he could help. I'd definitely expect him to hit better at Fenway than Dodger Stadium, too.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jan 2, 2016 16:56:02 GMT -5
If we never signed Rusney Castillo, then I would be ok with an Ethier acquisition. Otherwise, no thanks. (Unless we find a decent trade partner to take Castillo)
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Post by jmei on Jan 2, 2016 17:06:22 GMT -5
If the Dodgers would trade Ethier for Castillo, I'd probably do it. The Dodgers arguably could use a right-handed outfielder more than a left-handed one (Pederson and Crawford, their projected LF and CF staters, already hit lefty), and they could use another outfielder who can play center field (after Pederson, the next guys down on their center field depth chart are Enrique Hernandez (a converted second baseman) and Puig (better in a corner outfield spot)). That said, they already have one lefty-masher on their roster (Scott Van Slyke) and I'm not sure they want to take on the long-term salary commitment that Castillo represents.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jan 3, 2016 8:50:40 GMT -5
If the Dodgers would trade Ethier for Castillo, I'd probably do it. The Dodgers arguably could use a right-handed outfielder more than a left-handed one (Pederson and Crawford, their projected LF and CF staters, already hit lefty), and they could use another outfielder who can play center field (after Pederson, the next guys down on their center field depth chart are Enrique Hernandez (a converted second baseman) and Puig (better in a corner outfield spot)). That said, they already have one lefty-masher on their roster (Scott Van Slyke) and I'm not sure they want to take on the long-term salary commitment that Castillo represents. I actually like that deal. I wish we had a little more time to evaluate Rusney, but he does worry me. A Young/Ethier platoon could be really good. For the Dodgers to even consider it, I would believe we'd have to pay the whole freight on Ethier. |
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Post by sox fan in nc on Jan 4, 2016 9:12:37 GMT -5
If the Dodgers would trade Ethier for Castillo, I'd probably do it. The Dodgers arguably could use a right-handed outfielder more than a left-handed one (Pederson and Crawford, their projected LF and CF staters, already hit lefty), and they could use another outfielder who can play center field (after Pederson, the next guys down on their center field depth chart are Enrique Hernandez (a converted second baseman) and Puig (better in a corner outfield spot)). That said, they already have one lefty-masher on their roster (Scott Van Slyke) and I'm not sure they want to take on the long-term salary commitment that Castillo represents. I actually like that deal. I wish we had a little more time to evaluate Rusney, but he does worry me. A Young/Ethier platoon could be really good. For the Dodgers to even consider it, I would believe we'd have to pay the whole freight on Ethier. With them taking on Castillo's contract, it softens Ethier's obligation. A lot may depend on who they have coming up in AAA/AA &/or their confidence in Van Slyke. |
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Jan 4, 2016 12:27:23 GMT -5
I don't think the Dodgers would be hugely interested in Castillo, especially if they're trying to dump Ethier's contract. So that talk probably doesn't make a huge amount of sense.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 4, 2016 13:33:31 GMT -5
I don't think the Dodgers would be hugely interested in Castillo, especially if they're trying to dump Ethier's contract. So that talk probably doesn't make a huge amount of sense. I don't think the Dodgers would want Castillo's long-term deal either. The Dodgers don't have to dump payroll so I don't think they'd give Ethier away, but if Crawford stays healthy and plays well enough and Pederson and Puig perform, the Dodgers could deal Ethier and if the Sox are willing to eat a lot of that contract I think a lower tier prospect could get the Sox Ethier's services. |
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Post by telson13 on Jan 4, 2016 21:17:51 GMT -5
I don't think the Dodgers would be hugely interested in Castillo, especially if they're trying to dump Ethier's contract. So that talk probably doesn't make a huge amount of sense. I don't think the Dodgers would want Castillo's long-term deal either. The Dodgers don't have to dump payroll so I don't think they'd give Ethier away, but if Crawford stays healthy and plays well enough and Pederson and Puig perform, the Dodgers could deal Ethier and if the Sox are willing to eat a lot of that contract I think a lower tier prospect could get the Sox Ethier's services. That doesn't make any sense from the Sox standpoint. Why would they want to spend anywhere near Ethier's salary for a mediocre fourth/fifth OF who's defensively probably limited to LF and can't remotely hit lefties? The only way Ethier makes sense is if the Sox can platoon him with Young, pay less than half of his salary, and trade Castillo. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 4, 2016 22:28:15 GMT -5
Like several other players, they probably aren't interested in selling low on Castillo and are probably satisfied with trying to see if he can improve rather than just paying for him to go away.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Jan 5, 2016 10:07:38 GMT -5
Like several other players, they probably aren't interested in selling low on Castillo and are probably satisfied with trying to see if he can improve rather than just paying for him to go away. IMO this is apples to apples. The Dodgers would also be selling low on Ethier. They could use another CF as they only have Pederson to play there. They could use Castillo more than we can & Ethier would allow us to platoon him with Young. Keep in mind AB is only a year or 2 away & should be too good to be a 4th OF. Ethier will be making 18mll & 17mil for 2016 & 17, but will be off the books after that. This would also hinge on Bradley sticking. |
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