steveofbradenton
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Post by steveofbradenton on May 27, 2016 10:50:19 GMT -5
I understand the potential qualms some of you may have about Matt Harvey after the last several starts, but Harvey is just 27, is making $4.325 million this year, and has 2 more arb years before reaching free agency after the 2018 season. Certainly if you think THIS is Harvey now, you may not want to consider trading for him, but I love his competiveness and stuff (when he is right).
The New York Mets have 3 other current, or close to being, aces now in DeGroom, Syndergard, and Matz. Zack Wheeler is close himself to coming back. Would there ever be a better time for us to interest the Mets in parting with Harvey? I don't think so.
What would interest the NY Mets? I'm not one who likes to trade top prospects, but I'd like to see what it would take. Let me start with us moving our problem child Clay Buchholz, along with Rafael Devers, and Teddy Stankewitz. Devers gives them a David Wright replacement and Stanky is someone they drafted earlier (and liked) who could be a 5th starter and innings eater for them in a couple of years. I could see Clay having a reversal pitching in their stadium and without a DH to worry about.
I think Harvey's problems can be fixed and he could, at the least, be a strong bounce-back candidate for 2017. Ideas?
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Post by jmei on May 27, 2016 13:33:25 GMT -5
I doubt the Mets front office wants to sell low, and Boston's front office is going to want a hefty discount. Maybe during the offseason, but I don't see anything happening midseason.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 27, 2016 14:12:20 GMT -5
If Mets would trade him now you go after him now in my opinion. If he's healthy you have to try and get him. Even Aces go through bad stretches, just look at Price.
Problem I see is that Mets are going to want pieces to help now I would think. So it would have to be a three team trade.
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Post by bigpapismangosalsa on May 30, 2016 10:23:00 GMT -5
Agree with UMass 100% on this subject. I don't think there is ANY chance the Mets will trade low on Harvey right now. The old Omar Minaya Mets, sure, but not this version. If for some reason they are looking to trade Havery at 50 cents on the dollar this season, you absolutely do it. Plenty of pitchers struggle after a drastic increase in their innings due to a long post season run. I'm not even going to speculate on what Matt Harvey pitching at the level he did last year would cost, but if you can get that at a discount, you don't think twice about it.
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Post by dmaineah on May 31, 2016 11:16:08 GMT -5
Hanley Ramirez for Matt Harvey
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Post by dnfl333 on Jun 6, 2016 12:56:40 GMT -5
Another thread that should not exist
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Post by larrycook on Jul 6, 2016 22:07:00 GMT -5
Did the mets put him in the dl today because of shoulder soreness?
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Post by cto94 on Jul 8, 2016 16:30:47 GMT -5
Did the mets put him in the dl today because of shoulder soreness? He opted for season-ending surgery because of a nerve problem in his shoulder
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Post by telson13 on Jul 8, 2016 17:59:09 GMT -5
Did the mets put him in the dl today because of shoulder soreness? He has thoracic outlet syndrome, which is basically a compression of the vasculature (subclavian artery and vein) that supply/drain the shoulder and arm. It's a major surgery. And by major, I mean an actual *major* surgery, not like your average elective orthopedic surgery. There's significant risk including life-threatening bleeding and lung puncture, and potentially crippling nerve damage. It's usually done by a thoracic surgeon with a vascular surgeon available standing by. Recovery of normal function is iffy even for non-athletes. His career is in serious jeopardy.
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Post by telson13 on Jul 9, 2016 1:24:15 GMT -5
I should also have mentioned that all of the nerves that go to the shoulder and arm come from the neck vertebrae and pass through two muscles that run nearly vertically in the neck...the anterior and middle scalene. If those muscles get too big and/or spasm, they can compress the nerves and the artery (vein less often). It's not too uncommon in bodybuilders or people with repetitive motion jobs (even typing, which can put strain on the scalene a from holding the head up and arms out in front).
I also misspoke, it's often a neurosurgeon; the only times I've seen it was for a cervical rib and a first rib malformation, which were both done by a thoracic surgeon. I'm not familiar with the neurovascular release. Regardless, it's much more risky than a regular orthopedic surgery because of the major vessels and the nerves (brachial plexus), which can be easily injured, potentially permanently.
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