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5/30 Gameday Thread: Espinoza & Elias look to keep rolling
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Post by iakovos11 on May 30, 2016 7:55:36 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on May 30, 2016 12:35:35 GMT -5
En fuego:
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Post by benogliviesbrother on May 30, 2016 13:08:51 GMT -5
I didn't realize Espinoza was "rolling."
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Post by hot2trot on May 30, 2016 14:08:39 GMT -5
Espinoza with a no hitter through 4. 4 walks to 1 strikeout
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Post by bosox89 on May 30, 2016 14:12:24 GMT -5
When you see Portland has 14 hits and none of them belong to Benintendi  |
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Post by pedroelgrande on May 30, 2016 14:43:52 GMT -5
Espinoza with a no hitter through 4. 4 walks to 1 strikeout Struck out the side in the 5th and allowed a hit. Finished 5 Ip, 1 H, 4 BB, 4 SO, 5-2 GO-FO |
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Post by thelavarnwayguy on May 30, 2016 15:22:55 GMT -5
When you see Portland has 14 hits and none of them belong to Benintendi With guys on base in front of him all day long maybe they were not going to give him anything to hit? Benny has some street cred as an rbi guy. |
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on May 30, 2016 15:41:23 GMT -5
Bobby Poyner with another good outing. 2.0 IP 3K's 0BB only 1H allowed. Not sure why he's not in Salem yet
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on May 30, 2016 15:42:02 GMT -5
All right, already.
Bobby Poyner is age 23, old for A ball, but understandable since he was just drafted last year.
So far in Greenville, he's thrown 26 innings in 16 games, with 10 hits, 1ER, 32 K's, and a K/BB ratio of infinity.
There is no point to leaving a 23-year old at this level any longer. I don't care if he's doing it with smoke and mirrors -- move the guy. If he is so much ahead of the league that he doesn't need to pitch carefully and end up walking anyone, then he'll only get complacent if he isn't challenged.
OOPS - brockstar beat me to it.
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Post by brockholtsuperstar on May 30, 2016 15:44:13 GMT -5
Yeah what that guy said!
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Post by jimed14 on May 30, 2016 15:54:49 GMT -5
All right, already. Bobby Poyner is age 23, old for A ball, but understandable since he was just drafted last year. So far in Greenville, he's thrown 26 innings in 16 games, with 10 hits, 1ER, 32 K's, and a K/BB ratio of infinity. There is no point to leaving a 23-year old at this level any longer. I don't care if he's doing it with smoke and mirrors -- move the guy. If he is so much ahead of the league that he doesn't need to pitch carefully and end up walking anyone, then he'll only get complacent if he isn't challenged. OOPS - brockstar beat me to it. He's earning that $10k signing bonus, for sure. I don't understand the babying of college senior relief pitchers. |
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Post by telluricrook on May 30, 2016 16:07:07 GMT -5
Espinoza with a no hitter through 4. 4 walks to 1 strikeout Struck out the side in the 5th and allowed a hit. Finished 5 Ip, 1 H, 4 BB, 4 SO, 5-2 GO-FO Nice! Looks like we got some something special going on in that Greenvile rotation. |
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 30, 2016 17:09:12 GMT -5
Espinoza with a no hitter through 4. 4 walks to 1 strikeout That's positively Owens-esque. |
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Post by larrycook on May 30, 2016 17:53:09 GMT -5
Bobby Poyner with another good outing. 2.0 IP 3K's 0BB only 1H allowed. Not sure why he's not in Salem yet I agree. He needs to see better hitters. He is too advanced for sal hitters. |
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Post by ericmvan on May 30, 2016 20:55:47 GMT -5
That's positively Owens-esque. In a way, it's a more encouraging line than a totally dominant one. BB, 363 DP, 9 BB, 643 DP, 9 BB, BB, 15 failed sac, P6, WP, 3U P6, Ks, 53 Kc, Kc, 1B (L9), Ks He walked 4 of the first 8 hitters, then none of the last 9 (skipping the bunt). He fanned none of the first 11 hitters, then 4 of the last 6. After he got the lead runner on a failed sac bunt, he got 4 K's, 2 popups, and 2 grounders in a stretch of 9 hitters. That's adapting on the fly. |
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Post by ericmvan on May 30, 2016 21:02:10 GMT -5
Elias not even as good as his line (5 6 5 4 4 4). The Braves were 3/7 on line drives off him.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on May 31, 2016 8:29:27 GMT -5
Call me old fashioned.
But the Portland Sea Dogs versus the Hartford Yard Goats as a baseball matchup is a little avant grade for me, in terms of team names.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 31, 2016 9:52:37 GMT -5
All right, already. Bobby Poyner is age 23, old for A ball, but understandable since he was just drafted last year. So far in Greenville, he's thrown 26 innings in 16 games, with 10 hits, 1ER, 32 K's, and a K/BB ratio of infinity. There is no point to leaving a 23-year old at this level any longer. I don't care if he's doing it with smoke and mirrors -- move the guy. If he is so much ahead of the league that he doesn't need to pitch carefully and end up walking anyone, then he'll only get complacent if he isn't challenged. OOPS - brockstar beat me to it. He's earning that $10k signing bonus, for sure. I don't understand the babying of college senior relief pitchers. I don't think it's babying so much as he's not a high priority guy for them (yet), so they're not necessarily going to push guys aside for him until he makes them. He is, of course, making them right now. But if you look in Salem, Maddox and Grover haven't been awful, Callahan has some upside, even if he's looking like he's never going to get there, and Pimentel and Alcantara have been pretty good, although walking too many. With only 5 true bullpen guys right now (given they're skipping starts right now and also have Taylor in long relief), there's not a ton of room. Ball to Portland within a couple weeks might open up a spot for Poyner. |
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Post by iakovos11 on May 31, 2016 11:29:38 GMT -5
You really think Ball to Portland in a couple of weeks?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 31, 2016 11:54:44 GMT -5
He's earning that $10k signing bonus, for sure. I don't understand the babying of college senior relief pitchers. I don't think it's babying so much as he's not a high priority guy for them (yet), so they're not necessarily going to push guys aside for him until he makes them. He is, of course, making them right now. But if you look in Salem, Maddox and Grover haven't been awful, Callahan has some upside, even if he's looking like he's never going to get there, and Pimentel and Alcantara have been pretty good, although walking too many. With only 5 true bullpen guys right now (given they're skipping starts right now and also have Taylor in long relief), there's not a ton of room. Ball to Portland within a couple weeks might open up a spot for Poyner. You are overlooking Drehoff who has been Poyneresque since they moved him to closer after his first start. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 31, 2016 12:40:41 GMT -5
I don't think it's babying so much as he's not a high priority guy for them (yet), so they're not necessarily going to push guys aside for him until he makes them. He is, of course, making them right now. But if you look in Salem, Maddox and Grover haven't been awful, Callahan has some upside, even if he's looking like he's never going to get there, and Pimentel and Alcantara have been pretty good, although walking too many. With only 5 true bullpen guys right now (given they're skipping starts right now and also have Taylor in long relief), there's not a ton of room. Ball to Portland within a couple weeks might open up a spot for Poyner. You are overlooking Drehoff who has been Poyneresque since they moved him to closer after his first start. Drehoff was promoted to Portland over the weekend. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 31, 2016 12:43:09 GMT -5
You really think Ball to Portland in a couple of weeks? Why not? He spent all of last season in Salem too and is over 160 innings at the level. Not predicting it, but it's a possibility. They've got 7 SP on the roster, so something's gotta give, and that seems like the most likely. |
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Post by iakovos11 on May 31, 2016 13:12:44 GMT -5
You really think Ball to Portland in a couple of weeks? Why not? He spent all of last season in Salem too and is over 160 innings at the level. Not predicting it, but it's a possibility. They've got 7 SP on the roster, so something's gotta give, and that seems like the most likely. I guess. Still, seems like they'd want to see more from him. But if he can show some consistency over the next few weeks, perhaps that's enough. I'd really like to see him consolidate whatever gains he's made and get some solid confidence before getting the bump to Portland. |
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Post by sittingstill on May 31, 2016 16:07:15 GMT -5
You are overlooking Drehoff who has been Poyneresque since they moved him to closer after his first start. Drehoff was promoted to Portland over the weekend.  |
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Post by iakovos11 on May 31, 2016 16:14:27 GMT -5
Evidence.
That's an awesome picture, by the way. Not that all of yours aren't.
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