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Post by joshv02 on Jul 31, 2016 9:10:27 GMT -5
Great haul by the Yankees. I wonder what a Kimbrell deal would fetch. It is definitely a sellers' market. Hopefully Dombroski, Hazen and Wren are working to phones to gauge the market for Kimbrell, Ross, Kelly, Hanigan, Holt, Buchholz, and Pomeranz. Are you joking or just trolling? Have you read Red Sox boards before? If they have anything short of the best record in baseball, or at times when they do, they should trade it all.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 31, 2016 9:20:22 GMT -5
The Yankees aren't going to just hoard prospects. This isn't their M.O.
They are going to deal at least half the players they acquired with maybe a few of their own prospects for someone.
The Yankees aren't in the business of developing prospects if they're trying to sell tickets. I'm not buying that they're rebuilding at all. They'll probably make a huge trade in the off season. Not sure for what yet, maybe Sale or maybe Fernandez or something.
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Post by barney27 on Jul 31, 2016 9:20:54 GMT -5
WOW Yanks got some decent people not great. Maybe a package for someone else like sale. Be interesting to see how this all works out. Kimbrell is not going any where. Probably not Holt either. The rest is very possible. Add layne to he list. DD ears have got to be burning right now with Drew p.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Jul 31, 2016 9:21:51 GMT -5
Great haul by the Yankees. I wonder what a Kimbrell deal would fetch. It is definitely a sellers' market. Hopefully Dombroski, Hazen and Wren are working to phones to gauge the market for Kimbrell, Ross, Kelly, Hanigan, Holt, Buchholz, and Pomeranz. Are you joking or just trolling? Not joking...this team needs a starting pitcher, at least two relief pitchers and LF which might help them make a one game wild card. The cost to acquire those pieces is way too much in this sellers' market. Might as well take advantage of the sellers' market and build to contend for next 6 to 8 years rather than cutting deep into their farm system for the chance of a one game wild card.
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Post by nomar on Jul 31, 2016 9:25:17 GMT -5
Well they definitely could not have gotten Giolito, if that wasn't obvious enough already. Frazier is a very solid prospect and Sheffield is good too, but they don't come close to Gio's value.
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Post by bosox on Jul 31, 2016 9:27:15 GMT -5
Per Heyman, the Yankees are getting Tyler Clippard.
Jon Heyman @jonheyman 3m3 minutes ago Manhattan, NY yanks getting tyler clippard
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Post by nomar on Jul 31, 2016 9:28:14 GMT -5
When is Dan Roche going to tell us what deals we make next?
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Post by barney27 on Jul 31, 2016 9:30:05 GMT -5
This is depressing but hats off to the Yankees. I don't foresee them signing the biggest but not so young free agents of the next couple of years to long time contacts. They will most likely wait for the 2018 off season and go hard on Harper, Machado and Fernández. And frankly, I see them as favourites to land all three as by that time, they will have plenty of cheap young everyday starters. We still have the three B's in '19 and I hope the two other B's (Blake and Benintendi) plus Moncada and Devers are leading the charge instead of an Encarnacion or a Bautista. I can see Boston putting up a fight for Fernandez. Looking at how David price has done so far, Fernandez would have to go in the same money range or higher because of the market in 2 years. Will the sox go all in on another big contract for a pitcher? I am sure they will kick the tires. With the 3 b's, the catchers, and the top 5 prospects the sox will be looking at lots of money. It will be interesting to see how they mange their payroll.
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Post by theghostofjoecronin on Jul 31, 2016 9:38:46 GMT -5
Indians get old friend Andrew Miller for old friend Clint Frazier and Justus Sheffield I'm glad he can now grow back his awesome beard....and he's also reunited with the other bearded wonder, Mr. Napoli.
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Post by bigpupp on Jul 31, 2016 9:39:36 GMT -5
The Yankees aren't going to just hoard prospects. This isn't their M.O. They are going to deal at least half the players they acquired with maybe a few of their own prospects for someone. The Yankees aren't in the business of developing prospects if they're trying to sell tickets. I'm not buying that they're rebuilding at all. They'll probably make a huge trade in the off season. Not sure for what yet, maybe Sale or maybe Fernandez or something. We don't know their M.O.. They've never really had this good of a farm system.
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Post by bosox on Jul 31, 2016 9:42:25 GMT -5
White Sox have moved a reliever:
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 16s17 seconds ago #STLCards acquire LHP Zach Duke from #WhiteSox for minor league outfielder Charlie Tilson.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 31, 2016 9:49:06 GMT -5
The Yankees aren't going to just hoard prospects. This isn't their M.O. They are going to deal at least half the players they acquired with maybe a few of their own prospects for someone. The Yankees aren't in the business of developing prospects if they're trying to sell tickets. I'm not buying that they're rebuilding at all. They'll probably make a huge trade in the off season. Not sure for what yet, maybe Sale or maybe Fernandez or something. We don't know their M.O.. They've never really had this good of a farm system. Actually they did at one point. The core 4 were in the system at one point. I agree to your overall point, though. Cashman has been around long enough to know that the Yankees can rebuild. Look at them now. They're old, washed up, and boring, and fans aren't turning out to see them. Cashman knows that spending money on top tier talent in conjunction with a burgeoning farm system could make the Yankees a powerhouse for years to come. It's scary to think, once they spend the money on young in their prime free agents like Harper, Machado, and Fernandez (and they have the money available) and have the young core developed and ready to contribute, they're going to rule the East for some time. Now if they can get something of major value for Carlos Beltran, they'll have done just about everything the Red Sox should have done on July 31, 2014.
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Post by jmei on Jul 31, 2016 9:57:18 GMT -5
White Sox have moved a reliever: Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 16s17 seconds ago #STLCards acquire LHP Zach Duke from #WhiteSox for minor league outfielder Charlie Tilson. Bleh, he's the guy I wanted for the Red Sox.
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Post by bosox on Jul 31, 2016 9:57:52 GMT -5
Per the Brewers beat writer:
Tom @haudricourt 4m4 minutes ago Jonathan Lucroy has exercised his no-trade clause and vetoed trade from #Brewers to Indians. Details to come.
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Post by jmei on Jul 31, 2016 9:58:31 GMT -5
Wow.
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Post by bosox on Jul 31, 2016 9:58:43 GMT -5
White Sox have moved a reliever: Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 16s17 seconds ago #STLCards acquire LHP Zach Duke from #WhiteSox for minor league outfielder Charlie Tilson. Bleh, he's the guy I wanted for the Red Sox. Same here. An upgrade over Layne.
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Post by nomar on Jul 31, 2016 9:58:52 GMT -5
Per the Brewers beat writer: Tom @haudricourt 4m4 minutes ago Jonathan Lucroy has exercised his no-trade clause and vetoed trade from #Brewers to Indians. Details to come. Jesus... Why wouldn't he have wanted to play for a contender? The believed haul was C Francisco Mejia, SS Chen-Chang, and OF Greg Allen. Not well known players, but I love Chen-Chang. SS that rakes. Allen is a contact/speed guy who should be a good 4th OF at least, and Mejia is having a huge offensive year and is known for his arm. Very solid haul.
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Post by bosox on Jul 31, 2016 10:01:48 GMT -5
Per the Brewers beat writer: Tom @haudricourt 4m4 minutes ago Jonathan Lucroy has exercised his no-trade clause and vetoed trade from #Brewers to Indians. Details to come. Jesus... Why wouldn't he have wanted to play for a contender? I'm guessing either wanted money to waive or maybe he knows the other teams interested in trading for him and would prefer to go to one of those teams.
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Post by dnfl333 on Jul 31, 2016 10:07:46 GMT -5
If the Front office is smart? No reason not to see what a few players might get you in trade. If Swihart and Vazquez are the future at C, it would make sense to see what Leon gets you if the over pays in trades continue.
A loss today in Anaheim Gentlemen, DD needs to stand pat. Margot Espinoza is more than enough to lose and not make the dance once again.
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Post by barney27 on Jul 31, 2016 10:11:03 GMT -5
We don't know their M.O.. They've never really had this good of a farm system. Actually they did at one point. The core 4 were in the system at one point. I agree to your overall point, though. Cashman has been around long enough to know that the Yankees can rebuild. Look at them now. They're old, washed up, and boring, and fans aren't turning out to see them. Cashman knows that spending money on top tier talent in conjunction with a burgeoning farm system could make the Yankees a powerhouse for years to come. It's scary to think, once they spend the money on young in their prime free agents like Harper, Machado, and Fernandez (and they have the money available) and have the young core developed and ready to contribute, they're going to rule the East for some time. Now if they can get something of major value for Carlos Beltran, they'll have done just about everything the Red Sox should have done on July 31, 2014. The yanks picked up an A level ss, A level pitching prospect, and 2 AAA outfielders who have struggled some in AAA. Not saying it won't work out just saying that an organization who's farm system was rated around 18 before trades and maybe moves them up to 13 or 14 is not a burgeoning farm system yet. The interesting thing will be does cashman keep most of these prospects or does he package them in a sale type trade.
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Post by barney27 on Jul 31, 2016 10:13:44 GMT -5
Do you offer leon to the Indians and see what you can get in return?
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Post by barney27 on Jul 31, 2016 10:14:16 GMT -5
what did the yanks give up to get clippard?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 31, 2016 10:16:48 GMT -5
Actually they did at one point. The core 4 were in the system at one point. I agree to your overall point, though. Cashman has been around long enough to know that the Yankees can rebuild. Look at them now. They're old, washed up, and boring, and fans aren't turning out to see them. Cashman knows that spending money on top tier talent in conjunction with a burgeoning farm system could make the Yankees a powerhouse for years to come. It's scary to think, once they spend the money on young in their prime free agents like Harper, Machado, and Fernandez (and they have the money available) and have the young core developed and ready to contribute, they're going to rule the East for some time. Now if they can get something of major value for Carlos Beltran, they'll have done just about everything the Red Sox should have done on July 31, 2014. The yanks picked up an A level ss, A level pitching prospect, and 2 AAA outfielders who have struggled some in AAA. Not saying it won't work out just saying that an organization who's farm system was rated around 18 before trades and maybe moves them up to 13 or 14 is not a burgeoning farm system yet. The interesting thing will be does cashman keep most of these prospects or does he package them in a sale type trade. Perhaps not, but view it this way. By time 2018 rolls around, the young SS/3b the Yanks picked up in the Chapman deal could getting close. Bird and Judge should be playing by then. Mateo should be nearing the SS job. I would think Severino will develop sooner or later. Clint Frazier should be a huge pickup by then. There's a young core in place, one that could really look good when you add Machado and Harper to that lineup. Of course you add Harper or Machado to any lineup it becomes a lot better, but the Yankees are obviously clearing the decks financially - so they will be out in full force with their checkbooks, and will have 27 year olds to choose from rather than 30 year old FAs.
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Post by bosox on Jul 31, 2016 10:17:31 GMT -5
what did the yanks give up to get clippard? From the D-Backs beat writer: Steve Gilbert @stevegilbertmlb 1m1 minute ago Can confirm this. #Dbacks to get RHP Vicente Campos in deal.
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Post by bosox on Jul 31, 2016 10:19:25 GMT -5
Do you offer leon to the Indians and see what you can get in return? Olney is reporting that efforts will continue to change Lucroy's mind and accept the deal. I'm guessing it's a money to waive his rights issue.
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