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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Aug 6, 2016 10:27:47 GMT -5
I didn't like the move, but I understand why they did it. They weren't sure AB was going to be ready. Blake was struggling with the catcher position. They viewed Vasquez, incorrectly, as being ready. IIRC, wasn't this around the time the Chris Young got injured also?
There have been other catchers who have made the move and had great careers - BJ Surhoff comes to mind. Also, marginal players have more value to a team if they can play more than one position. I look at this as unfortunate luck for the team...and the player.
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Post by azblue on Aug 6, 2016 10:59:06 GMT -5
Dale Murphy, Craig Biggio....
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 6, 2016 12:41:52 GMT -5
You would think the Red Sox would've learned about messing with a top talent after the Bogaerts debacle a few years back, but apparently I was being too optimistic. It's one thing if they switched Swihart to LF in late August or September because they were completely out of options for the stretch run, but it was a foolish move to make so early. Let's hope he can bounce back next year like Xander was able to. Worked just fine with Mookie. So far so good with AB (athough CF to LF is a minor change, granted). Machado did just fine going from SS to 3B (and now back to SS). Are you saying they shouldn't mess with Moncada then? He's 2B for life? Cherry picking your examples always help support any argument. |
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Post by barney27 on Aug 6, 2016 18:39:43 GMT -5
You would think the Red Sox would've learned about messing with a top talent after the Bogaerts debacle a few years back, but apparently I was being too optimistic. It's one thing if they switched Swihart to LF in late August or September because they were completely out of options for the stretch run, but it was a foolish move to make so early. Let's hope he can bounce back next year like Xander was able to. Worked just fine with Mookie. So far so good with AB (athough CF to LF is a minor change, granted). Machado did just fine going from SS to 3B (and now back to SS). Are you saying they shouldn't mess with Moncada then? He's 2B for life? Cherry picking your examples always help support any argument. Moncada looks like he could take advantage of his skills the best by playing outfield. strong arm, very fast, and good athlete. Everyone says the bat is there, but 40% strikeout rate at AA says he needs to work on his approach. |
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Post by wcp3 on Aug 7, 2016 9:16:49 GMT -5
You would think the Red Sox would've learned about messing with a top talent after the Bogaerts debacle a few years back, but apparently I was being too optimistic. It's one thing if they switched Swihart to LF in late August or September because they were completely out of options for the stretch run, but it was a foolish move to make so early. Let's hope he can bounce back next year like Xander was able to. Worked just fine with Mookie. So far so good with AB (athough CF to LF is a minor change, granted). Machado did just fine going from SS to 3B (and now back to SS). Are you saying they shouldn't mess with Moncada then? He's 2B for life? Cherry picking your examples always help support any argument. Silly me, I must be overrating the importance of the catcher position. |
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Post by barney27 on Aug 7, 2016 9:32:44 GMT -5
Worked just fine with Mookie. So far so good with AB (athough CF to LF is a minor change, granted). Machado did just fine going from SS to 3B (and now back to SS). Are you saying they shouldn't mess with Moncada then? He's 2B for life? Cherry picking your examples always help support any argument. Silly me, I must be overrating the importance of the catcher position. When you have 2 young catching prospects like cv and swihart the move to the outfield does not seem to make sense. Where is varitek in all of this process? Weiters in Baltimore took 2 years to come back. Why wouldn't you think that it be similar for cv. Swihart is probably not a Molina but certainly has lots of promise. I would think with hanigan, leon, and varitek around that swihart could have the opportunity to learn a lot. Move swihart back to ctcher full time. Look this winter of what you have with cv, leon and swihart. Good problem to have. |
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 7, 2016 9:46:57 GMT -5
Worked just fine with Mookie. So far so good with AB (athough CF to LF is a minor change, granted). Machado did just fine going from SS to 3B (and now back to SS). Are you saying they shouldn't mess with Moncada then? He's 2B for life? Cherry picking your examples always help support any argument. Silly me, I must be overrating the importance of the catcher position. Sorry, I read that you thought they should have learned something from the Bogarts (not a catcher) situation. A situation where he didn't get hurt and probably didn't do as well as he could have because he was sulking a bit. But yeah, catchers are important. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 7, 2016 9:52:45 GMT -5
Kyle Swarber got hurt in LF too. Sometimes sh*t happens. The Sox wanted to know what they had in Christian Vasquez earlier in the year and give at bats to Swihart too.
Ohh and Swihart looked good in LF when he was out there.
Moving forward I only see Swihart as a catcher and the Sox probably do too. This was only a 2016 thing as far as I see it.
Get healthy and come back strong next year Swihart.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 7, 2016 16:26:15 GMT -5
Tim Britton @timbritton 23m23 minutes ago
Farrell said Red Sox will meet with Swihart Monday to determine a plan for the rest of the season. Doesn't sound promising.
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Post by fenwayfaithful on Aug 7, 2016 17:10:40 GMT -5
Hopefully he just gets healthy and comes back next year to finally be our starting C
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Post by libertine on Aug 7, 2016 17:45:37 GMT -5
Possibly orthoscopic surgery to clean out bone chips in the ankle bursa. That is my guess, knowing they can end up there after the kind of severe ankle sprain Blake suffered. I had my doubts we would see him on the field again this season. Sad, but it is more important to get that ankle completely healed...
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 7, 2016 17:48:37 GMT -5
Possibly orthoscopic surgery to clean out bone chips in the ankle bursa. That is my guess, knowing they can end up there after the kind of severe ankle sprain Blake suffered. I had my doubts we would see him on the field again this season. Sad, but it is more important to get that ankle completely healed... Ankles can be quite tricky. I had an injury that took two surgeries and I was on crutches for 16 weeks and limped for more than a year. I'm shocked he didn't need surgery when it happened and I hope they aren't figuring it out now that the ligaments aren't healing right. |
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Post by libertine on Aug 7, 2016 18:39:09 GMT -5
Possibly orthoscopic surgery to clean out bone chips in the ankle bursa. That is my guess, knowing they can end up there after the kind of severe ankle sprain Blake suffered. I had my doubts we would see him on the field again this season. Sad, but it is more important to get that ankle completely healed... Ankles can be quite tricky. I had an injury that took two surgeries and I was on crutches for 16 weeks and limped for more than a year. I'm shocked he didn't need surgery when it happened and I hope they aren't figuring it out now that the ligaments aren't healing right. Yep. Fully agree. I am dealing with residual issues from multiple severe ankle sprains that I had 35-40 years ago. But you're right, it could be continuing problems with the ligaments themselves. I am hoping it is bone chips since that is not as problematic as the scenario you laid out. Ankles are very tricky indeed... |
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 9, 2016 21:55:38 GMT -5
Brian MacPherson @brianmacp 12m12 minutes ago
Swihart will undergo surgery in the coming days.
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Post by tjb21 on Aug 10, 2016 7:48:47 GMT -5
What a bad deal for Blake and the team.
Get healthy kid.
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Post by bnich on Aug 10, 2016 9:36:09 GMT -5
They should have done surgery months ago when it happened.
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Post by nomar on Aug 10, 2016 9:45:51 GMT -5
If I was Swihart I'd be hoping to get traded. Brutal management of him this year. As a Sox fan, I don't want him gone because I think he's a future starting catcher and his trade value is now at its lowest point.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 10, 2016 15:41:49 GMT -5
Pete Abraham @peteabe 19m19 minutes ago
Spoke to Blake Swihart. He said it's a three-month rehab and he should be ready for spring training. Surgery essentially the only choice.
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Post by amfox1 on Aug 10, 2016 17:03:51 GMT -5
They should have done surgery months ago when it happened. Please explain why. Generally Grade 1/Grade 2 sprains do not require surgery, but I'd be interested in your diagnosis and treatment analysis. |
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