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9/9-9/11 Red Sox @ Blue Jays Series Thread
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 11, 2016 15:56:32 GMT -5
Are there any whinier fans than Blue Jays fans? I cannot stand them. *Looks around....* Nevermind.... Most Red Sox fans are able to objectively look at a replay and some percentage of them will go against the call going the Red Sox' way. Blue Jays fans are going 100% for the calls going the Blue Jays' way.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 11, 2016 15:57:02 GMT -5
Yeah. Up 2 games...6-3 road trip. Great job!! We are on our way.
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Post by Coreno on Sept 11, 2016 15:57:03 GMT -5
What a game. Wow.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 11, 2016 15:57:20 GMT -5
Are there any whinier fans than Blue Jays fans? I cannot stand them. Well, people in a lot of cities would say we're the whiniest. We act like it's all about us. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT REALLY IS ALL ABOUT US!!!
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Post by radiohix on Sept 11, 2016 15:57:23 GMT -5
I hope we could trade this guy in the off season and recoup some of that value we gave up;
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 11, 2016 15:57:46 GMT -5
Got to give Kimbrel some credit there, dude definitely showed some big time stones there.
Absolutely GREAT win, great series.
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Post by Guidas on Sept 11, 2016 15:58:03 GMT -5
And just remember, this win would be nothing without Big Papi.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 11, 2016 15:58:54 GMT -5
I hope we could trade this guy in the off season and recoup some of that value we gave up; And sign Shooter Chapman, who does not require draft pick compensation.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 11, 2016 15:59:02 GMT -5
Are there any whinier fans than Blue Jays fans? I cannot stand them. Well, people in a lot of cities would say we're the whiniest. We act like it's all about us. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE IT REALLY IS ALL ABOUT US!!! We have a much bigger die-hard base of fans IMO. The pink hats drag us down. Obviously, I have no evidence.
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Post by jmei on Sept 11, 2016 16:00:28 GMT -5
I feel like I need a cigarette.
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Post by ray88h66 on Sept 11, 2016 16:01:37 GMT -5
Big time win. No interest in how they got it.
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Post by bosox81 on Sept 11, 2016 16:02:12 GMT -5
Good bye Rogers Center. Glad to not see you again.
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Post by amfox1 on Sept 11, 2016 16:13:31 GMT -5
Evan Drellich evandrellich 15m15 minutes ago Text from a scout: “for all the (expletive) John gets about bullpen management that was great"
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Post by Oregon Norm on Sept 11, 2016 16:23:42 GMT -5
Great fun reading through the comments... Not feeling warm and fuzzy about the erratic Barnes in the game here. Barnes was fine... will somebody please tell me why tazawa is up and warming In case Uehara, after 23 pitches on Friday, couldn't finish the inning? Just maybe? Tazawa warming? Don't do this to me Farrell, my heart can't take it. See above... Lead-off walk. Only two pitches near the zone. Buckle up, kids. I HATE leadoff walks from the bullpen. Good God....leadoff walk. This had killed him this year. Man up Kimbrel.....that is bullshit. ...and nothing came of it. That ball was surely foul so the umpires did the right thing. The rules on replay say it's at their discretion and they took it, no matter what the Toronto fans - who are a disgrace to their otherwise dignified countrymen - think, or John Gibbons, a.k.a. the Penguin, for that matter. I feel like I need a cigarette. ...and you probably don't even smoke... right?
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Post by mattpicard on Sept 11, 2016 16:31:54 GMT -5
^ Regarding the Tazawa stuff, Koji not being able to finish the inning is no excuse. Had he failed to get through, Kimbrel would have been the right move.
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Post by patford on Sept 11, 2016 16:42:44 GMT -5
Just imagine how Toronto fans feel. They probably need a shot of heroin.
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Post by patford on Sept 11, 2016 16:46:55 GMT -5
Remember Eckersley? And look at Koji Uehara . Do you think other pitchers could look at them and take a page? Just pound the zone. When every single pitch is a strike it forces the hitters to swing the bat.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 11, 2016 16:48:33 GMT -5
Evan Drellich evandrellich 15m15 minutes ago Text from a scout: “for all the (expletive) John gets about bullpen management that was great" It has all been justified. He was different this game and finally showed a sense of urgency in winning rather than keeping players comfortable in their defined roles no matter how stupid the methodology was in deciding on their defined roles. Here is my compliment - it's about damn time John.
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Post by geostorm on Sept 11, 2016 16:53:02 GMT -5
POST GAME comments on NESN. Brief exchange about the Holt attempt of home... -
Cafardo: "John...the caught stealing at home...you weren't successful...but that fire up the team a little bit?...you, think?"
JF: "I think that's a good baseball play...uh..Aaron Loop is very tough...and extremely tough on Jackie, as history shows...I think if Brick waits a count longer, where Aaron picks up his leg, into his delivery, I think he makes it...he broke just a tick too soon...no issues...I thought it was a good baseball play"
another reporter, next question: "...that called or he pick that up on his own?"
JF: "in our advance meetings there are things that we highlight...we haven't done it often...if at all...but...he's one of the guys you look to possibly take advantage of..."
"Me" - Since he didn't explicitly answer the actual question, would a reasonable interpretation of that be that some plays are "called" during a pregame meeting, including, which TOR pitchers, and which Sox runners, and situations, that might come into play as an opp...and then certain runners are allowed to take things into their own hands?...
...and/or, with an "in-game" sign, that is more of a "reminder" that with the opp now actually presenting itself, as opposed to an in-game call to go on a certain pitch...
(or was it JF simply/deftly framing it a way that answered the question, while also respecting the player and the staff?...)
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 11, 2016 17:10:22 GMT -5
POST GAME comments on NESN. Brief exchange about the Holt attempt of home... - Cafardo: "John...the caught stealing at home...you weren't successful...but that fire up the team a little bit?...you, think?" JF: "I think that's a good baseball play...uh..Aaron Loop is very tough...and extremely tough on Jackie, as history shows...I think if Brick waits a count longer, where Aaron picks up his leg, into his delivery, I think he makes it...he broke just a tick too soon...no issues...I thought it was a good baseball play" another reporter, next question: "...that called or he pick that up on his own?" JF: "in our advance meetings there are things that we highlight...we haven't done it often...if at all...but...he's one of the guys you look to possibly take advantage of..." "Me" - Since he didn't explicitly answer the actual question, would a reasonable interpretation of that be that some plays are "called" during a pregame meeting, including, which TOR pitchers, and which Sox runners, and situations, that might come into play as an opp...and then certain runners are allowed to take things into their own hands?... ...and/or, with an "in-game" sign, that is more of a "reminder" that with the opp now actually presenting itself, as opposed to an in-game call to go on a certain pitch... (or was it JF simply/deftly framing it a way that answered the question, while also respecting the player and the staff?...) I totally get the part about JBJ having trouble with that P and LH in general. But a steal of home by a guy with average speed? Wouldn't having JBJ try to push a bunt down have a better chance of working than a steal of home?
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Post by p23w on Sept 11, 2016 17:11:36 GMT -5
POST GAME comments on NESN. Brief exchange about the Holt attempt of home... - Cafardo: "John...the caught stealing at home...you weren't successful...but that fire up the team a little bit?...you, think?" JF: "I think that's a good baseball play...uh..Aaron Loop is very tough...and extremely tough on Jackie, as history shows...I think if Brick waits a count longer, where Aaron picks up his leg, into his delivery, I think he makes it...he broke just a tick too soon...no issues...I thought it was a good baseball play" another reporter, next question: ". ..that called or he pick that up on his own?"
JF: "in our advance meetings there are things that we highlight...we haven't done it often...if at all...but...he's one of the guys you look to possibly take advantage of...""Me" - Since he didn't explicitly answer the actual question, would a reasonable interpretation of that be that some plays are "called" during a pregame meeting, including, which TOR pitchers, and which Sox runners, and situations, that might come into play as an opp...and then certain runners are allowed to take things into their own hands?... ...and/or, with an "in-game" sign, that is more of a "reminder" that with the opp now actually presenting itself, as opposed to an in-game call to go on a certain pitch... (or was it JF simply/deftly framing it a way that answered the question, while also respecting the player and the staff?...)
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Post by bigpupp on Sept 11, 2016 17:13:43 GMT -5
POST GAME comments on NESN. Brief exchange about the Holt attempt of home... - Cafardo: "John...the caught stealing at home...you weren't successful...but that fire up the team a little bit?...you, think?" JF: "I think that's a good baseball play...uh..Aaron Loop is very tough...and extremely tough on Jackie, as history shows...I think if Brick waits a count longer, where Aaron picks up his leg, into his delivery, I think he makes it...he broke just a tick too soon...no issues...I thought it was a good baseball play" another reporter, next question: "...that called or he pick that up on his own?" JF: "in our advance meetings there are things that we highlight...we haven't done it often...if at all...but...he's one of the guys you look to possibly take advantage of..." "Me" - Since he didn't explicitly answer the actual question, would a reasonable interpretation of that be that some plays are "called" during a pregame meeting, including, which TOR pitchers, and which Sox runners, and situations, that might come into play as an opp...and then certain runners are allowed to take things into their own hands?... ...and/or, with an "in-game" sign, that is more of a "reminder" that with the opp now actually presenting itself, as opposed to an in-game call to go on a certain pitch... (or was it JF simply/deftly framing it a way that answered the question, while also respecting the player and the staff?...) Yes, he's trying to not throw Holt under the bus.
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Post by jmei on Sept 11, 2016 17:16:40 GMT -5
Alternatively, he's trying to avoid throwing himself under the bus.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 11, 2016 17:24:06 GMT -5
It'll be interesting to see how JF answers for that one after the game. It reminds me of Belichick's on-side kick against the Eagles last year. That only cost the Patriots home-field advantage in the AFC championship game. He also didn't even try to win against the Dolphins in the final game of the regular season.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Sept 11, 2016 17:25:15 GMT -5
If a player tries to steal home on his own, and his name isn't Jacoby Ellsbury in his prime, he should be immediately DFA'd. Unless his last name begins with a B.
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