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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 22, 2016 12:54:57 GMT -5
i expect the Sox to cruise to another win tonight (lineup variance caveat). The boys are steamrollin' and the O's are a beaten bunch. Price is going to take advantage of this opportunity to put the finishing touches on an above average season. What I have seen the last seven games (and there were starts and stops of this kind of team since the middle of August) ranks up there as some of the most impressive regular season work I have seen out of the franchise in the 40 years I have been following them. To have this run against archrivals...I don't know if you'd see it another 40 years. Some posters feel we got a little lucky in NY, but I don't see it that way. This kind of team has been percolating all season long, and the game is 9 innings long. Even Hanley's homerun, while lucky, was a defining moment of a team that doesn't quit, and has supreme talent. We all know it will end at some point....but it will go on for as long as it will go on. There is no reason to think it will stop anytime soon. A slightly different spin on what you said...can a fan of a particular team ask any more than what we've gotten to experience this year? Enough frustrating moments to create some hot discussion (although I joined this site only recently, I've been reading for years - and as my name indicates, I've watched or listened to nearly every Sox game I was available for for a long, long time). What was magical to me about the 2013 team was consistency, clutch, and an aura of veteran "I got this" - players like Gomes, Victorino - it just felt inevitable. What I love about this particular version of the Sox is the mix of young and old - seeing the spectacular beginnings of players like Betts and Bogaerts, blossoming of players like Bradley and Leon and Porcello, steady leadership of Pedroia, adjustments of those new to the team, like Price. Hanley's "rebirth". Big Papi - there are no words for what we are witnessing. And now we can throw Benintendi into the mix - young, talented, and clearly ready to make his mark in a very, very difficult place to play (I assume). I am loving it - the ups (finally!), the downs (so frustrating and hard to explain, with a team of this talent). Would we really want it any other way?
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 22, 2016 13:59:51 GMT -5
It is interesting to look at the run differentials in both leagues. Only in the AL west is the order run differential different from the order of the standings. In the AL the Sox are far ahed in runs scored and sixth in runs allowed. The Sox have scored 845 runs, 120 more than Cleveland, which is second. They have allowed 659 runs, which is only 29 more than Cleveland, which has allowed the least. Based on run differentials I would say that Cleveland is the major barrier to the Sox making it to the WS. Of course, these are season-long numbers and don't reflect recent changes such the improvement in the Sox pitching and how other teams are doing in hitting and pitching. But without Carrasco and Salazar, what would/will they be? I honestly am not scared of anyone in the AL.
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Post by telson13 on Sept 22, 2016 14:19:59 GMT -5
It is interesting to look at the run differentials in both leagues. Only in the AL west is the order run differential different from the order of the standings. In the AL the Sox are far ahed in runs scored and sixth in runs allowed. The Sox have scored 845 runs, 120 more than Cleveland, which is second. They have allowed 659 runs, which is only 29 more than Cleveland, which has allowed the least. Based on run differentials I would say that Cleveland is the major barrier to the Sox making it to the WS. Of course, these are season-long numbers and don't reflect recent changes such the improvement in the Sox pitching and how other teams are doing in hitting and pitching. But without Carrasco and Salazar, what would/will they be? I honestly am not scared of anyone in the AL. Agreed. With Carrasco and Salazar down, Cleveland is eminently beatable. Texas has been insanely lucky...36-10 in one-run games, despite not having a particularly good bullpen. They're just not that good.
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Post by tjb21 on Sept 22, 2016 14:21:37 GMT -5
I'm still wondering if Moncada would have put up a better showing than Shaw at the plate, since he got called up. Shaw has been really bad.
This team is so fun at the moment, hope it goes deep into October.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Sept 22, 2016 15:17:08 GMT -5
To save time, the MLB should simply begin the WS now with Sox/Cubs.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 22, 2016 15:40:04 GMT -5
It is interesting to look at the run differentials in both leagues. Only in the AL west is the order run differential different from the order of the standings. In the AL the Sox are far ahed in runs scored and sixth in runs allowed. The Sox have scored 845 runs, 120 more than Cleveland, which is second. They have allowed 659 runs, which is only 29 more than Cleveland, which has allowed the least. Based on run differentials I would say that Cleveland is the major barrier to the Sox making it to the WS. Of course, these are season-long numbers and don't reflect recent changes such the improvement in the Sox pitching and how other teams are doing in hitting and pitching. But without Carrasco and Salazar, what would/will they be? I honestly am not scared of anyone in the AL. You know what I'm afraid of? A short series ... the better team is only a bit more likely to win a 5-game series. A couple of hot pitchers, some bad BABIP luck against your pitchers ...
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Post by nomar on Sept 22, 2016 16:10:20 GMT -5
To save time, the MLB should simply begin the WS now with Sox/Cubs. Shhh, protect our mojo. We're doomed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 16:32:11 GMT -5
But without Carrasco and Salazar, what would/will they be? I honestly am not scared of anyone in the AL. You know what I'm afraid of? A short series ... the better team is only a bit more likely to win a 5-game series. A couple of hot pitchers, some bad BABIP luck against your pitchers ... Bingo. Even without Carrasco and Salazar, they still have Kluber, who is capable of shutting the Red Sox down in Games 1 and 5. If they get one more good start from someone else, or a game with crazy BABIP luck...you never know.
I'm not counting out the Indians winning a five-game series. A seven-game series seems less likely given the lack of starting depth, but five-game series always worry me. This is baseball. Any team is capable of losing three out of five to any other team.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 22, 2016 16:46:37 GMT -5
But without Carrasco and Salazar, what would/will they be? I honestly am not scared of anyone in the AL. You know what I'm afraid of? A short series ... the better team is only a bit more likely to win a 5-game series. A couple of hot pitchers, some bad BABIP luck against your pitchers ... Well yeah. But that could happen against the Phillies too. I only meant that the Red Sox are a significantly better team IMO.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 22, 2016 16:56:26 GMT -5
To save time, the MLB should simply begin the WS now with Sox/Cubs. it would be must see TV. Please let it happen...
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Post by costpet on Sept 22, 2016 17:44:01 GMT -5
The only thing I fear is bases loaded, no outs.
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Post by sarasoxer on Sept 22, 2016 17:59:26 GMT -5
The only thing I fear is bases loaded, no outs. Yeah, really. If we had something of a resurgent Sandy Leon and Shaw, I would feel much better. I know that Farrell won't do it, but moving both down in the order might be helpful. And will somebody please work with Bogie to help his swing. It is a downward chop.... leaning over the plate without lower body ignition on anything not on the inside corner to way inside. He must now have the widest 'strike zone' in the majors. If we could get those three guys back at least partially to what they were...unstoppable.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 22, 2016 18:09:22 GMT -5
Has any team in the history of MLB been in first place in September and swept back-to-back 4-game series against teams that were 4 or fewer games behind them?
I wouldn't be surprised if the answer is no. The opportunity itself is so rare.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 22, 2016 18:12:32 GMT -5
Farrell did it. ...Holt batting 2nd.....no matter. A rising tide lifts all boats.
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Post by huskies15 on Sept 22, 2016 18:22:23 GMT -5
I wonder if Moncada had been given more rope to make adjustments if he wouldn't have proven to be worth the call up. Shaw and Hill have been tough to watch.
Bogie looks like a mess too. Good night off for him to sit back and chat with Chili all night.
4 game sweep coming right up. The Price is right. Let's get it.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 22, 2016 18:24:31 GMT -5
Ruthless.
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Sept 22, 2016 18:28:16 GMT -5
Ever since Frazee, yeah. Thankfully we aren't Mookless.
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Post by radiohix on Sept 22, 2016 18:36:37 GMT -5
The Orioles announcers still thin that Benny's injury occured when he made his HR stealing catch in Tampa heh.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 22, 2016 18:40:16 GMT -5
Unmerciful
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 22, 2016 18:40:49 GMT -5
It took Chris Tillman THIRTY FIVE pitches to get through the first inning. This offense is just goofy.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 22, 2016 18:47:17 GMT -5
implacable
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Sept 22, 2016 18:50:57 GMT -5
Remorseless.
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Post by swooptech on Sept 22, 2016 18:52:43 GMT -5
Looks like Tilman is still hurt, Red Sox really grinding out at bats, love to see that especially coming into playoffs where we need to wear down good starting pitching.
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Post by bosox81 on Sept 22, 2016 19:20:05 GMT -5
Os are not making the WC game. It might be Detroit or Houston, or both.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Sept 22, 2016 19:26:34 GMT -5
Os are not making the WC game. It might be Detroit or Houston, or both. I dunno... Yankees were hot, got eviscerated by the Sox, then got hot again. Maybe the Red Sox just make these teams look bad.
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