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How long should the Red Sox wait on JBJ? (This Year)
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 20, 2019 15:37:15 GMT -5
Isn't that what you said before his strong second half last year?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 21, 2019 0:03:35 GMT -5
Please do not feed the animals.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on May 21, 2019 17:02:02 GMT -5
He'll probably have a OPS around .800 the rest of the way knowing JBJ so well and his trends.
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Post by incandenza on May 21, 2019 17:49:26 GMT -5
This surprised me from that article: "Based on that metric, Bradley has been much better in May (his .326 xwOBA is just above the league average of .322) than he was in April (.249)." He hadn't looked that much better to me so far in May. But it's a good sign.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on May 21, 2019 18:44:58 GMT -5
This surprised me from that article: "Based on that metric, Bradley has been much better in May (his .326 xwOBA is just above the league average of .322) than he was in April (.249)." He hadn't looked that much better to me so far in May. But it's a good sign. JBJ has been stubbornly underperforming his xwOBAs for a while now, though.
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Post by jimed14 on May 21, 2019 21:54:54 GMT -5
Two straight games where the troll has to stay away.
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Post by incandenza on May 22, 2019 0:07:29 GMT -5
This surprised me from that article: "Based on that metric, Bradley has been much better in May (his .326 xwOBA is just above the league average of .322) than he was in April (.249)." He hadn't looked that much better to me so far in May. But it's a good sign. JBJ has been stubbornly underperforming his xwOBAs for a while now, though. Why? Is there reason to think that'll keep up?
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Post by huskies15 on May 22, 2019 12:07:06 GMT -5
^^I would assume its his batted ball profile. Too many groundballs and nowhere near enough fly balls, especially to the pull side
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Post by jimed14 on May 22, 2019 12:09:32 GMT -5
xwOBA doesn't adjust for shifting and that's by far the biggest problem with it.
Regardless, going from .249 to .326 is great news.
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Post by James Dunne on May 22, 2019 12:20:15 GMT -5
xwOBA Jackie Bradley Jr. doesn't adjust for shifting and that's by far the biggest problem with it him. . Fixed that. One of the most frustrating things about Bradley (and the shift discussion in general) is when dudes who just aren't hitting well won't bunt or otherwise change their approach to beat it. Like, I don't want David Ortiz changing his approach to beat the shift, because ground outs to short right field are an perfectly acceptable tradeoff for home runs. If a player hits hitting .160 keeps hitting the ball in the same zones, he deserves it.
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Post by jimed14 on May 22, 2019 12:26:41 GMT -5
xwOBA Jackie Bradley Jr. doesn't adjust for shifting and that's by far the biggest problem with it him. . Fixed that. One of the most frustrating things about Bradley (and the shift discussion in general) is when dudes who just aren't hitting well won't bunt or otherwise change their approach to beat it. Like, I don't want David Ortiz changing his approach to beat the shift, because ground outs to short right field are an perfectly acceptable tradeoff for home runs. If a player hits hitting .160 keeps hitting the ball in the same zones, he deserves it. Well he's hit HR to LF in the last two games, so maybe he's adjusting.
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Post by incandenza on May 22, 2019 12:34:14 GMT -5
xwOBA Jackie Bradley Jr. doesn't adjust for shifting and that's by far the biggest problem with it him. . Fixed that. One of the most frustrating things about Bradley (and the shift discussion in general) is when dudes who just aren't hitting well won't bunt or otherwise change their approach to beat it. Like, I don't want David Ortiz changing his approach to beat the shift, because ground outs to short right field are an perfectly acceptable tradeoff for home runs. If a player hits hitting .160 keeps hitting the ball in the same zones, he deserves it. Won't, or can't? Every time JBJ gets out of his funks, it's when he starts going the opposite way. I assume that if it were as simple as "I'll just go the opposite way," he would do that. But I do agree he should bunt against the shift. It would be so helpful to him if he could add that to his toolbox.
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Post by James Dunne on May 22, 2019 12:47:47 GMT -5
He wouldn't even have to particularly deaden the ball. Even just bunting generally toward where the third baseman would normally be like once a week would keep defenses so much more honest against him.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on May 22, 2019 13:34:05 GMT -5
xwOBA Jackie Bradley Jr. doesn't adjust for shifting and that's by far the biggest problem with it him. . Fixed that. One of the most frustrating things about Bradley (and the shift discussion in general) is when dudes who just aren't hitting well won't bunt or otherwise change their approach to beat it. Like, I don't want David Ortiz changing his approach to beat the shift, because ground outs to short right field are an perfectly acceptable tradeoff for home runs. If a player hits hitting .160 keeps hitting the ball in the same zones, he deserves it. The best explanation I've heard on why guys don't bunt against the shift more is that, at best, you can force the third baseman to respect the bunt, but most of the benefit of the shift comes from how the middle infielders are positioned. Basically, moving one infielder back to a more standard position isn't worth all the bunting you have to do to make it happen.
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Post by jimed14 on May 22, 2019 13:57:45 GMT -5
Fixed that. One of the most frustrating things about Bradley (and the shift discussion in general) is when dudes who just aren't hitting well won't bunt or otherwise change their approach to beat it. Like, I don't want David Ortiz changing his approach to beat the shift, because ground outs to short right field are an perfectly acceptable tradeoff for home runs. If a player hits hitting .160 keeps hitting the ball in the same zones, he deserves it. The best explanation I've heard on why guys don't bunt against the shift more is that, at best, you can force the third baseman to respect the bunt, but most of the benefit of the shift comes from how the middle infielders are positioned. Basically, moving one infielder back to a more standard position isn't worth all the bunting you have to do to make it happen. Well, there is really no valid reason for someone hitting in the low .100s to not be bunting for hits whenever given the opportunity. I'm sure he could raise his batting average that way.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on May 22, 2019 16:00:04 GMT -5
The best explanation I've heard on why guys don't bunt against the shift more is that, at best, you can force the third baseman to respect the bunt, but most of the benefit of the shift comes from how the middle infielders are positioned. Basically, moving one infielder back to a more standard position isn't worth all the bunting you have to do to make it happen. Well, there is really no valid reason for someone hitting in the low .100s to not be bunting for hits whenever given the opportunity. I'm sure he could raise his batting average that way. Bunting isn't an auto-hit, even with the shift on. And as I explained, even if he did start doing it effectively, they'd just change up the defense a little bit and basically shut it down. At that point I guess he'd have a slightly more favorable defensive alignment, but that's not nearly enough to turn him into even a decent hitter given how bad he is at the moment. He just needs to hit much better, period. Bunting doesn't figure into that equation.
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Post by jimed14 on May 22, 2019 16:07:58 GMT -5
I know that bunting isn't an auto-hit, but it's probably not that hard to get 2 hits out of 10 when there is no one within 40 feet of 3B.
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Post by fenwaythehardway on May 22, 2019 16:12:07 GMT -5
I know that bunting isn't an auto-hit, but it's probably not that hard to get 2 hits out of 10 when there is no one within 40 feet of 3B. But it's two hits and then they realign the defense and you're still a crap hitter. It's a bandaid on a shotgun wound.
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Post by jimed14 on May 22, 2019 16:16:42 GMT -5
I know that bunting isn't an auto-hit, but it's probably not that hard to get 2 hits out of 10 when there is no one within 40 feet of 3B. But it's two hits and then they realign the defense and you're still a crap hitter. It's a bandaid on a shotgun wound. Obviously. But when there's no other options for playing time, he should be doing everything he can to contribute and not just on defense. That's why pitchers bunt. I'd prefer that he hit to all fields and stop thinking he's going to be a 40 HR guy someday but I'd still love to see a bunt single or two. Even Mitch Moreland would do it when he was scuffling.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 23, 2019 4:52:40 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 23, 2019 7:58:24 GMT -5
True, but he was probably near that last season at this point as well - and he did wind up being very productive in the second half. The season doesn't end today. Based on Bradley's history and the lack of viable alternatives and his defense, you let JBJ play his way out of it. I would limit the looks against lefties that he has. Even when he's going well, he doesn't really hit lefties much, but with JBJ you have to close your eyes a bit and look at his stat line when the season is done as opposed to looking in just May or June. He's bounced back enough often enough that I think it's ok not to panic when he hits as poorly as he does. At some point, yeah - he'll slump and he won't hit his way out of it and you wasted a ton of ABs - so I get that is your concern. That year will happen. I don't think it will be 2019 and hopefully not 2020, although Duran might be an alternative by then at some later point of that year. JBJ makes it an easy call not to bring him back after 2020.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 23, 2019 15:08:08 GMT -5
For me there's a difference between this year and last year that's worrisome. Last year before he started turning it on statwise, there was more than a month where he was hitting the ball hard but no BABIP luck. So far, he hasn't done that this year. That said, I hope you are right.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 23, 2019 15:26:06 GMT -5
For me there's a difference between this year and last year that's worrisome. Last year before he started turning it on statwise, there was more than a month where he was hitting the ball hard but no BABIP luck. So far, he hasn't done that this year. That said, I hope you are right. I could be mistaken but I think it was in June of last year he was smashing the ball with nothing to show for it, but then in July the results started to shift. We're not at that point this season quite yet. We'll see if that happens. I suspect it will at some point.
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2019 15:33:44 GMT -5
Holy s***, what happened to Jose Ramirez?
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Post by radiohix on May 23, 2019 17:20:59 GMT -5
Holy s***, what happened to Jose Ramirez? When you consider his stats of his 2nd half last year, you start thinking that maybe it isn't just a slump.
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