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Post by soxjim on Jul 1, 2017 13:22:27 GMT -5
When you have a chance to block your top prospect with an over-the-hill washed up PED user, you need to jump at that chance. Your post is so ridiculous - I mean come on.
Devers is being blocked?
Come on.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Jul 1, 2017 13:36:18 GMT -5
When you have a chance to block your top prospect with an over-the-hill washed up PED user, you need to jump at that chance. Your post is so ridiculous - I mean come on.
Devers is being blocked?
Come on.
I do not think it is ridiculous. I think it is right on. If Peralta was not taking up roster space and AB's at Pawtucket, the Red Sox could have promoted Devers to that exact roster spot. I would much rather see if Devers can hit AAA pitching rather than giving the AB's to Peralta. Meanwhile the trading deadline is getting closer and we still do not know whether Devers can hit at AAA much less the Majors. I would hate to have the Red Sox give up more prospects for someone to play third without first seeing whether Devers is ready.
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Post by doctorduck21 on Jul 1, 2017 13:57:29 GMT -5
Your post is so ridiculous - I mean come on.
Devers is being blocked?
Come on.
I do not think it is ridiculous. I think it is right on. If Peralta was not taking up roster space and AB's at Pawtucket, the Red Sox could have promoted Devers to that exact roster spot. I would much rather see if Devers can hit AAA pitching rather than giving the AB's to Peralta. Meanwhile the trading deadline is getting closer and we still do not know whether Devers can hit at AAA much less the Majors. I would hate to have the Red Sox give up more prospects for someone to play third without first seeing whether Devers is ready.
Taking 2 weeks to see if Peralta has anything left doesn't change anything for Devers. Devers probably won't be in the majors until early August imo. I don't think there's much difference between what he'll learn at AA in that time than AAA. Maybe more junkballers to deal with?
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 1, 2017 14:20:30 GMT -5
The pitching is not that much better in AAA than in AA. The best pitchers don't stay there long so there are a lot of older pitchers who aren't good enough for the majors. Devers' development is not being slowed by Peralta. That's ridiculous. Devers will be in the majors no earlier or later because of Peralta.
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Post by soxjim on Jul 1, 2017 18:29:02 GMT -5
Your post is so ridiculous - I mean come on.
Devers is being blocked?
Come on.
I do not think it is ridiculous. I think it is right on. If Peralta was not taking up roster space and AB's at Pawtucket, the Red Sox could have promoted Devers to that exact roster spot. I would much rather see if Devers can hit AAA pitching rather than giving the AB's to Peralta. Meanwhile the trading deadline is getting closer and we still do not know whether Devers can hit at AAA much less the Majors. I would hate to have the Red Sox give up more prospects for someone to play third without first seeing whether Devers is ready.
Read the post from other posters.
Put yourself in my shoes and some others shoes who believe there isn't much difference in AA vs AAA while considering that the decision of when he comes up is obviously not yours or mine but someone like DD.--> Are you trying to say DD will hesitate to move up Devers to the pros until he sees him in AAA? I don't think he will, so you can understand why I think it absurd to suggest he's being blocked?
Thus your point of "what you want to see" isn't the point, right? Because you KNOW that DD won't hesitate to move up Devers in AA to the Red Sox if he feels he's ready, right?
Therefore it is ridiculous imo to suggest Devers is being blocked.
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Post by mandelbro on Jul 1, 2017 18:30:46 GMT -5
The pitching is not that much better in AAA than in AA. The best pitchers don't stay there long so there are a lot of older pitchers who aren't good enough for the majors. Devers' development is not being slowed by Peralta. That's ridiculous. Devers will be in the majors no earlier or later because of Peralta. Since Dombrowski has arrived he has promoted Benintendi, Moncada, Ben Taylor, and Lin from AA. He has promoted Travis, Marco Hernandez, Austin Maddox (for a week), Mike Miller (for a week) and Hector Velasquez (for a week) from AAA? Seems pretty evident that if the team is high on a AA player, his next step would be Boston.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jul 1, 2017 23:42:58 GMT -5
When you have a chance to block your top prospect with an over-the-hill washed up PED user, you need to jump at that chance. Your post is so ridiculous - I mean come on.
Devers is being blocked?
Come on.
I mean his comment is funny though. I don't think he was totally serious about it. That's just what he does.
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Post by ryan24 on Jul 2, 2017 11:10:52 GMT -5
The pitching is not that much better in AAA than in AA. The best pitchers don't stay there long so there are a lot of older pitchers who aren't good enough for the majors. Devers' development is not being slowed by Peralta. That's ridiculous. Devers will be in the majors no earlier or later because of Peralta. totally agree. I think the sox are doing everything in their power to allow devers to ready when he gets the call. a few weeks in AA or AAA probably is not going to break the bank. They are getting along with what they have and in 1st place with the 2nd best record in the league. So a couple of weeks either way is not going to hurt. I guess if devers hits fairly well in AAA by mid august he gets his 1st call up to test the waters. Will he work out as moncada or beni? Hard to say.
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Post by James Dunne on Jul 3, 2017 9:56:26 GMT -5
The pitching is not that much better in AAA than in AA. The best pitchers don't stay there long so there are a lot of older pitchers who aren't good enough for the majors. Devers' development is not being slowed by Peralta. That's ridiculous. Devers will be in the majors no earlier or later because of Peralta. I disagree with the bolded. Triple-A is filled with guys who can control secondaries. The difference between the best Triple-A pitchers and best Double-A ones is not huge, but the difference between a mid-rotation guy in the IL and one in the EL is definitely notable. That's why we'll often see those guys with a good approach but not enough pop (thinking of Che-Hsuan Lin as one example) really bottom out at Triple-A - the Brian Johnsons of the world will have an approach, pound the strike zone, and get them out. I agree with the rest of your point though, especially since the team has show so little hesitation moving players straight up from Double-A. Devers' timetable is the same.
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Post by alnipper on Jul 3, 2017 10:33:23 GMT -5
I just want Peralta to hit and fill the void at third. Even better would be to see Holt back up. At the very least Peralta provides depth right now.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 3, 2017 10:46:22 GMT -5
I just want Peralta to hit and fill the void at third. Even better would be to see Holt back up. At the very least Peralta provides depth right now. He was even at least average last year. 715 OPS 4 errors in 1/2 season. 8 errors in 2015 in a full-season with a 745 OPS. Looks like he fell off a cliff this year. Worth a shot. Interesting that he played on the teams the Sox beat in the 2007 and 2013 ALCS. He's had a close-up look at some big moments at Fenway.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2017 10:47:25 GMT -5
I just want Peralta to hit and fill the void at third. Even better would be to see Holt back up. At the very least Peralta provides depth right now. I'm pretty damn happy with the Lin/Marrero combo right now. I don't even want to see Peralta.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jul 3, 2017 12:58:11 GMT -5
The pitching is not that much better in AAA than in AA. The best pitchers don't stay there long so there are a lot of older pitchers who aren't good enough for the majors. Devers' development is not being slowed by Peralta. That's ridiculous. Devers will be in the majors no earlier or later because of Peralta. Since Dombrowski has arrived he has promoted Benintendi, Moncada, Ben Taylor, and Lin from AA. He has promoted Travis, Marco Hernandez, Austin Maddox (for a week), Mike Miller (for a week) and Hector Velasquez (for a week) from AAA? Seems pretty evident that if the team is high on a AA player, his next step would be Boston. I like the research but would point out that all of these players could legally drink in the U.S. Promoting a guy who played in the SEC or Serie Nacional from Double-A is a different bird.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 14, 2017 23:39:54 GMT -5
Bottom line, he gone and he gone and neither stifled Devers. Yes, I'm hawkish on Rafael.
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