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Post by basbal24 on Jul 23, 2017 17:28:47 GMT -5
now devers has been recalled -we still need another bat at deadline -how about Chris Young & Wiiliams Jerez to chicago white sox for Melky Cabrera & cash !!
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Post by station13 on Jul 23, 2017 20:53:22 GMT -5
Does he play 1B/3B? it would be tough to displaced our regular OF.
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Post by larrycook on Jul 25, 2017 15:25:11 GMT -5
My first choice is beltre. He provides a bat plus veteran leadership.
Cabrera is a guy that has a huge contract and breaking down physically. Ideal dh material, occational first base. Sound familiar?
Cozart would be better defense at short. Push bogey to third and devers to first, eventually.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 25, 2017 16:48:08 GMT -5
I would look at Jay Bruce. With Hanley playing 4 out of the last 6 games at 1B. Bruce can play DH, he has played some 1B this year and a little OF(mostly DH). See if you can ship back Young to save a little money.
He is the type of HR hitter we need, with 25 HRs and a .851 OPS. He is also hitting .263, so unlike Frazier he is a decent hitter.
He shouldn't cost a ton, so why not? Adding him and Devers would really change our lineup.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Jul 25, 2017 17:56:17 GMT -5
I would look at Jay Bruce. With Hanley playing 4 out of the last 6 games at 1B. Bruce can play DH, he has played some 1B this year and a little OF(mostly DH). See if you can ship back Young to save a little money. He is the type of HR hitter we need, with 25 HRs and a .851 OPS. He is also hitting .263, so unlike Frazier he is a decent hitter. He shouldn't cost a ton, so why not? Adding him and Devers would really change our lineup. Totally onboard with Jay Bruce. We NEED A BAT BIG TIME! Moreland can no longer be in the middle of our line-up. The guy could DH, play 1st 1 or 2 times a week, or give the OF some rest. Unless the Mets are really holding out, he should be someone we are all over. We need the potential of his power badly. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 25, 2017 18:33:40 GMT -5
My God, does this mean that Bryce (sure long-time readers here remember him) was actually RIGHT? That Jay Bruce IS the answer to all of our prayers?
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Post by radiohix on Jul 25, 2017 21:10:43 GMT -5
JAY BRUCE CAREER SPLITS!
1st Half wRC+ 113
2nd Half wRC+ 101
Pass.
Give Yonder Launch Angles Alonso and call it a day!
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Post by m1keyboots on Jul 26, 2017 12:27:00 GMT -5
JAY BRUCE CAREER SPLITS! 1st Half wRC+ 113 2nd Half wRC+ 101 Pass. Give Yonder Launch Angles Alonso and call it a day! Unfortunately Oakland seems like theyd try to pry some good pieces and unless Yonder is a long term thing, and knowing how Dombrowski gladly gives away bigger pieces seems shaky. But for sure Yonder would be a great addition! |
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Post by nomar on Jul 26, 2017 14:03:19 GMT -5
I like Alonso's changes but FWIW his July GB, LD and FB% mirror his old ones from years past and are in stark difference from the first three months of this season. It's a SSS but it's concerning IMO.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 26, 2017 17:23:50 GMT -5
You can use advanced stats to fall in love or hate a player. We aren't talking about elite hitters here. I wouldn't mind Bruce, Alonso or a few other guys. Let's not act like Alonso is some stud that has no risk.
Bruce always has a bad July it's his worst month. Thing is by the time you get him July will be over. His August numbers are slightly better. Then he's very good in Sept/Oct. So it's not a deal breaker for me. Also those are just averages, no one has a clue what he will do.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2017 12:01:24 GMT -5
What about Bruce and Reed for Castillo, Buttrey, Callahan and Young. We pay Castillo's salary down to like 4-5 million a year. He is having a good year and could really help the Mets going forward. At that price point it seems to make sense for them.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2017 12:55:43 GMT -5
What about Bruce and Reed for Castillo, Buttrey, Callahan and Young. We pay Castillo's salary down to like 4-5 million a year. He is having a good year and could really help the Mets going forward. At that price point it seems to make sense for them. I'm not sure if it's possible to do a two-step trade where we pay Castillo's salary starting next season, but they cannot make that trade and stay under the cap this year if they can't do that. I think the Mets would have to add some money even without Castillo included for them to stay under. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2017 13:06:55 GMT -5
I haven't done the math, but others have said we can get Bruce and Reed if we send out Young and stay under tax line. Now maybe Nunez deal changes that. If so it's like a million or two. Nothing that would stop the deal. Pay an extra million a year off of Castillo's salary.
Why couldn't you paydown Castillo's salary? It's done all the time.
The Mets will need OF next year, seems like a good match for Castillo.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2017 13:09:38 GMT -5
I haven't done the math, but others have said we can get Bruce and Reed if we send out Young and stay under tax line. Now maybe Nunez deal changes that. If so it's like a million or two. Nothing that would stop the deal. Pay an extra million a year off of Castillo's salary. Why couldn't you paydown Castillo's salary? It's done all the time. The Mets will need OF next year, seems like a good match for Castillo. If we pay down Castillo's salary, that's added to our cap figure. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2017 13:18:09 GMT -5
I haven't done the math, but others have said we can get Bruce and Reed if we send out Young and stay under tax line. Now maybe Nunez deal changes that. If so it's like a million or two. Nothing that would stop the deal. Pay an extra million a year off of Castillo's salary. Why couldn't you paydown Castillo's salary? It's done all the time. The Mets will need OF next year, seems like a good match for Castillo. If we pay down Castillo's salary, that's added to our cap figure. Why? |
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2017 13:23:36 GMT -5
If we pay down Castillo's salary, that's added to our cap figure. Why? Because he'd be on the 40 man roster. Teams could really take advantage of that if it weren't the case. I could be wrong, but don't think I am. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2017 13:24:10 GMT -5
Just structure the money so it starts next year. You don't have to add him to 40 man roster to trade him. It's like trading a minor league player.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2017 13:30:39 GMT -5
I don't see how teams would take advantage of that. Castillo is a very rare case, not many players like him. With huge deals stashed in minors.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2017 13:41:06 GMT -5
I don't see how teams would take advantage of that. Castillo is a very rare case, not many players like him. With huge deals stashed in minors. If only we could find another one and trade them for each other and then trade them back again so that neither team would have the salaries count towards the cap. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2017 13:49:45 GMT -5
They only don't count because they aren't on the 40 man roster. So what your saying makes no sense. You can't use him without his salary counting. We don't need another highly priced minor leaguer we can't use.
So why not get some use from all this money we are spending.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2017 14:07:43 GMT -5
But you're saying that Castillo's money that the Red Sox would be paying wouldn't count for the Red Sox if the Mets put him on the 40 man. I'm pretty positive it would. Don't argue with me about it. Argue with MLB and the MLBPA.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2017 14:20:19 GMT -5
Why would Castillo money count against the Red Sox cap if Mets add him to 40 man? The money you pay down would I think, just start it next year. He doesn't make much this year. If you don't paydown this year's salary there is no reason it would count against Red Sox cap.
If the Red Sox trade him and the Mets add him to 40 man roster it doesn't effect the Sox. The only thing would be the paydown money. So just start it next year.
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Post by bigpupp on Jul 30, 2017 14:27:33 GMT -5
I don't even think he would have to be put on the 40 man roster. If the Sox send money to another team then that money automatically counts against the cap.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jul 30, 2017 14:37:24 GMT -5
I don't even think he would have to be put on the 40 man roster. If the Sox send money to another team then that money automatically counts against the cap. In the year's it is paid no? I know they money will count the question is how it is applied. Seems only far that it counts against cap in years it is paid. Hence you paydown 2018-2022 it counts in those years, not 2017. |
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Post by basbal24 on Jul 30, 2017 15:59:43 GMT -5
time to get napoli from rangers 1b -dh Leader
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