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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 17, 2017 6:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 17, 2017 10:34:12 GMT -5
Nice tests for the Portland and Lowell lineups tonight.
Ian Anderson got a big Jethro Tull conversation started. Will Jesus Lazardo get one started on The Jesus Lizard? (I know nothing about them other than that they're a band, frankly)
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 17, 2017 10:38:52 GMT -5
Good call on Jesus Lizard. I'm in the same boat, just know it's a band, but nothing about them.
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Post by SALNotes on Aug 17, 2017 10:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Aug 17, 2017 11:29:27 GMT -5
Rayniel Adams starting for the GCL today. 19, spent one year in the DSL last year. Leading the GCL team with a .143 batting average against and strikes out almost a batter an inning. Very poor control at the moment, but could be someone that they move to the pen? Left handed, but his SSS splits are horrible against lefties.
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Post by jmei on Aug 17, 2017 11:59:07 GMT -5
There's a post on the subject in the midseason rankings thread. |
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Post by Addam603 on Aug 17, 2017 12:10:45 GMT -5
Rayniel Adams starting for the GCL today. 19, spent one year in the DSL last year. Leading the GCL team with a .143 batting average against and strikes out almost a batter an inning. Very poor control at the moment, but could be someone that they move to the pen? Left handed, but his SSS splits are horrible against lefties. Jinxed the poor kid. |
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 17, 2017 12:13:12 GMT -5
Ian Anderson got a big Jethro Tull conversation started. Will Jesus Lazardo get one started on The Jesus Lizard? (I know nothing about them other than that they're a band, frankly) I confuse them with Helmet and Dinosaur Jr. all the time, which makes no sense. Dinosaur Jr. is just a great name for a band goddamn. |
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Post by wildsox on Aug 17, 2017 13:00:41 GMT -5
What's the story with Trey Ball? He pitched a gem today. Does he just totally lose command from time to time.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 17, 2017 13:19:55 GMT -5
There's a post on the subject in the midseason rankings thread. To be fair, I think he posted his first. That said, there's no reason why any poster should feel like they shouldn't start a thread - I've never understood "someone should start a thread on this..." and the like. If it belongs in another thread, the mods can move it, but it's not like the original poster is in trouble or anything. |
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Post by Addam603 on Aug 17, 2017 16:07:23 GMT -5
Trey Ball is the poster boy for extreme starts. He's made 22 starts this year. In 8 of them his ERA is under 2, in 12 of them it's over 5 and only two games fall between 2 and 5 (3.86 and 3.38, both still decent). It's either really good or really bad. Seldom in between.
In his 8 great starts, he's averaged 3.3 BB/9, 8 K/9, and 0.58 HR/9. In his 12 bad starts, he's averaged 4.57 BB/9, 7.62 K/9, and 2.03 HR/9.
So his problem does seem to be his control, but his K stuff stays around the same.
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Post by tonyc on Aug 17, 2017 16:21:24 GMT -5
Yeah, he'll pitch a few like this and get people hopeful then fall. I don't think the needle on his projection moves on a start like this until he can finally get 6 in a row. However, it shows that ceiling is still there. I originally liked the pick. I'm wondering a bit about Sam Travis..his stats need to catch up with the scouting.
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Post by wildsox on Aug 17, 2017 16:49:29 GMT -5
Yeah, he'll pitch a few like this and get people hopeful then fall. I don't think the needle on his projection moves on a start like this until he can finally get 6 in a row. However, it shows that ceiling is still there. I originally liked the pick. I'm wondering a bit about Sam Travis..his stats need to catch up with the scouting. Travis looks like one of those guys that will hit better at the Major League level than the Minors |
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Post by jimed14 on Aug 17, 2017 16:54:22 GMT -5
Yeah, he'll pitch a few like this and get people hopeful then fall. I don't think the needle on his projection moves on a start like this until he can finally get 6 in a row. However, it shows that ceiling is still there. I originally liked the pick. I'm wondering a bit about Sam Travis..his stats need to catch up with the scouting. Travis looks like one of those guys that will hit better at the Major League level than the Minors I'm not sure how that could ever be assumed. |
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Post by SALNotes on Aug 17, 2017 17:31:52 GMT -5
There's a post on the subject in the midseason rankings thread. To be fair, I think he posted his first. That said, there's no reason why any poster should feel like they shouldn't start a thread - I've never understood "someone should start a thread on this..." and the like. If it belongs in another thread, the mods can move it, but it's not like the original poster is in trouble or anything. Thanks, I get that, it's a message board. I literally had one foot out the door when I saw the post I guess I could have dropped it and ran but I feel like I would have had to write something. Haha |
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Post by gerry on Aug 17, 2017 18:56:49 GMT -5
Travis looks like one of those guys that will hit better at the Major League level than the Minors I'm not sure how that could ever be assumed. Yet, we have recently seen this phenomenon in Iglesias, Shaw, Leon, Lin and others. And Travis (and Brentz, for that matter) have done reasonably well on their cameos. I have heard discussions about better pitchers, umps, fields, fan support, adrenaline, which could all make a difference physically and emotionally. No assumptions, but maybe it's a thing. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Aug 17, 2017 20:47:12 GMT -5
Fenway could probably help out Sam Travis quite a bit but he's still a fringe regular regardless, even with a slight improvement in Fenway.
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Post by soxfan511 on Aug 17, 2017 21:01:59 GMT -5
So groome either pitches like an MLB potential ace...or he gets shelled. Good to know
Can someone explain to me why Sam Travis is our number 4 prospect? He doesn't have any plus traits. His stats are meh. He is already 24 (in a week )
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Post by ramireja on Aug 17, 2017 21:11:11 GMT -5
Nick Duron in Lowell: 5IP, 1H, 0ER, 2BB, 1K Nice line although still not missing many bats despite solid velocity on his fastball. Lines up with most recent scouting scratch. Definitely a guy to keep an eye on as he gains more experience. |
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Post by ramireja on Aug 17, 2017 21:20:52 GMT -5
So groome either pitches like an MLB potential ace...or he gets shelled. Good to know Can someone explain to me why Sam Travis is our number 4 prospect? He doesn't have any plus traits. His stats are meh. He is already 24 (in a week )Because he hit between .290-.330 (w/ OBP between .330-.384) throughout his stops at Lowell, Greenville, Salem, and Portland. He followed that up with an even better line in the Arizona Fall League. Before his ACL tear, he was tracking like a plus hitter at the MLB level w/ questionable power but potential for 10-15 HRs. We're not that far enough removed from the injury to dramatically change his projection. That said, its a tough profile in that if the hit tool drops a notch (say .260-.270 in MLB), there aren't enough secondary traits (power, defense, base running) to give him a longterm role on a bench. To me, he's kind of either a regular or a AAAA guy, but its a little too early to dismiss the guy based on merely solid but not great AAA stats. |
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Post by soxfan511 on Aug 17, 2017 21:26:00 GMT -5
So groome either pitches like an MLB potential ace...or he gets shelled. Good to know Can someone explain to me why Sam Travis is our number 4 prospect? He doesn't have any plus traits. His stats are meh. He is already 24 (in a week )Because he hit between .290-.330 (w/ OBP between .330-.384) throughout his stops at Lowell, Greenville, Salem, and Portland. He followed that up with an even better line in the Arizona Fall League. Before his ACL tear, he was tracking like a plus hitter at the MLB level w/ questionable power but potential for 10-15 HRs. We're not that far enough removed from the injury to dramatically change his projection. That said, its a tough profile in that if the hit tool drops a notch (say .260-.270 in MLB), there aren't enough secondary traits (power, defense, base running) to give him a longterm role on a bench. To me, he's kind of either a regular or a AAAA guy, but its a little too early to dismiss the guy based on merely solid but not great AAA stats. Thank you for the explanation! |
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 17, 2017 21:42:16 GMT -5
So groome either pitches like an MLB potential ace...or he gets shelled. Good to knowCan someone explain to me why Sam Travis is our number 4 prospect? He doesn't have any plus traits. His stats are meh. He is already 24 (in a week ) Huh? Are you suggesting he got shelled tonight? Seriously? In 5 innings he gave a up 7 hits, not great, but not shelled. He also K'd 7. I'm ok with his ups and downs with that K rate where it is. He's developing. Learning. Working on things. Tonight wasn't quite as good as the last 2-3 outings, but he's just fine. Especially with his pedigree as a consensus top 2-3 player in last year's draft. They're kids still working and developing and trying to improve. They're going to meet some challenges and some failures. And that's often a good thing. They get a chance to work though it - and hopefully rise above. Give them a break. They are not major leaguers, yet. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 17, 2017 22:19:11 GMT -5
So did I miss Jagger Rusconi getting moved to CF? Looks like he's getting time there in deference to Netzer.
Rusconi was announced as an outfielder when he was drafted, but that was on the MLB-side, as the Sox saw him as a 2B all the way. With Cedrola on the DL, that's probably the path of least resistance to get him ABs.
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Post by Costigan on Aug 18, 2017 6:59:30 GMT -5
So did I miss Jagger Rusconi getting moved to CF? Looks like he's getting time there in deference to Netzer. Rusconi was announced as an outfielder when he was drafted, but that was on the MLB-side, as the Sox saw him as a 2B all the way. With Cedrola on the DL, that's probably the path of least resistance to get him ABs. He made one hell of a diving catch in center a couple games ago. Hope he can stay healthy and get regular at bats until season end. |
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Post by pd on Aug 18, 2017 7:01:05 GMT -5
Fenway could probably help out Sam Travis quite a bit but he's still a fringe regular regardless, even with a slight improvement in Fenway. So was his alter-ego, Travis Shaw. I don't think he was ever higher than 16 in the SP rankings. |
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