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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 27, 2017 6:54:04 GMT -5
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Post by iakovos11 on Aug 27, 2017 7:36:39 GMT -5
De Jesus to make his Greenville debut tonight.
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Post by Addam603 on Aug 27, 2017 7:58:58 GMT -5
Hopefully he does better than the 5.96 ERA and .916 OPS allowed that he did there last year. His Lowell numbers went up this year compared to last, but hopefully his Greenville numbers don't do the same.
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 27, 2017 12:38:35 GMT -5
Ball thru 2 innings has allowed only an infield hit plus a walk.His FB has been 88-91 touching 92. Chavis and Ockimey both walked in first AB. Each is solidly built especially from the waist down. Chavis is short-waisted... looks 2/3 legs.O-0 after 2.
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Post by soxfan511 on Aug 27, 2017 13:05:01 GMT -5
Ball thru 2 innings has allowed only an infield hit plus a walk.His FB has been 88-91 touching 92. Chavis and Ockimey both walked in first AB. Each is solidly built especially from the waist down. Chavis is short-waisted... looks 2/3 legs.O-0 after 2. High 80s ain't gonna cut it in the majors if your secondary pitches aren't even plus. His velocity hasn't improved at all since high school, very disappointing |
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 27, 2017 13:26:19 GMT -5
Ball gave up 3 hits and 3 runs in the 4th thanks in part to an error by Ockimey when he didn't get the glove down on a medium ground ball right at him. Ball was 90-93 in the 4th and hit 94 in a clean 5th with 2 Ks. His curve has showed very good bite and deception at 74-78. Chavis with his second walk so looks to have good patience.
Mars chokes up and appears to separate his hands on the bat.
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Post by Addam603 on Aug 27, 2017 13:46:44 GMT -5
Shawaryn throwing a gem in Salem. 8 IP, 5 H, 1 BB, and 9 Ks.
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Post by soxfan511 on Aug 27, 2017 15:14:39 GMT -5
Ball gave up 3 hits and 3 runs in the 4th thanks in part to an error by Ockimey when he didn't get the glove down on a medium ground ball right at him. Ball was 90-93 in the 4th and hit 94 in a clean 5th with 2 Ks. His curve has showed very good bite and deception at 74-78. Chavis with his second walk so looks to have good patience. Mars chokes up and appears to separate his hands on the bat. Good to hear about the velocity in the 4th. How did balls change up look? |
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Post by soxfan511 on Aug 27, 2017 15:16:05 GMT -5
Shawaryn throwing a gem in Salem. 8 IP, 5 H, 1 BB, and 9 Ks. He's really had a great season, love his high K numbers |
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 27, 2017 17:19:54 GMT -5
Ball gave up 3 hits and 3 runs in the 4th thanks in part to an error by Ockimey when he didn't get the glove down on a medium ground ball right at him. Ball was 90-93 in the 4th and hit 94 in a clean 5th with 2 Ks. His curve has showed very good bite and deception at 74-78. Chavis with his second walk so looks to have good patience. Mars chokes up and appears to separate his hands on the bat. Good to hear about the velocity in the 4th. How did balls change up look? Thanks for your inquiry. I saw pitches mostly 88-94 range and definite curves with sharp break 74-78. The FB was predominant in use. There were a small number of pitches 84-86. I assumed that they were cutters but perhaps they were changeups. If so, there was not great separation from the FB. I don't recall particular downward movement or effectiveness of the pitch. Ball walked a small number. Most misses were with the FB high...but not unduly. Today he was mainly a FB/curve guy. Chavis was 1/2 with 2 walks and a SO on a 3-2 FB. His hit was a LD single to deeper right center. He was being pitched carefully and did not expand the zone. Some guys have an aura and he is one. Josh Ock had a pretty LD single over third 2 hops to the left fielder. |
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Post by tonyc on Aug 27, 2017 21:45:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the report Sarasoxer. Alex Speir last reported Ball hasn't showed enough consistency to be protected. I'm hopeful his next (last?) start is real good, making three in a row so they can think about it. I still like the increasing velocity through the start, the breaking ball and remaining projection in his build. If he can work on the cutter or change the goal is to become a sort of Drew Pomeranz type.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 27, 2017 22:00:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the report Sarasoxer. Alex Speir last reported Ball hasn't showed enough consistency to be protected. I'm hopeful his next (last?) start is real good, making three in a row so they can think about it. I still like the increasing velocity through the start, the breaking ball and remaining projection in his build. If he can work on the cutter or change the goal is to become a sort of Drew Pomeranz type. Pomeranz strong point is the high spin FB. It would be unusual for Ball to have the same. |
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Post by tonyc on Aug 27, 2017 22:10:46 GMT -5
No doubt Pomeranz is much further along, however some similarities- 6'6" Lefthanders with repertoire focused on fastball/curve and took time to develope as starters. Ball would need to put on a bit more weight and get a tick or two added, plus sharpen secondaries. Not likely, but possible- I hope they keep him.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 27, 2017 23:52:14 GMT -5
No doubt Pomeranz is much further along, however some similarities- 6'6" Lefthanders with repertoire focused on fastball/curve and took time to develope as starters. Ball would need to put on a bit more weight and get a tick or two added, plus sharpen secondaries. Not likely, but possible- I hope they keep him. I do as well and I hope he develops and I hope he makes the 40 man cut but, at this point, Pomeranz is too high a ceiling. Anything is possible but that seems too unlikely. |
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Post by sibbysisti on Aug 28, 2017 8:10:43 GMT -5
Velasquez with another strong outing; one hit over seven IP to get the win. Next start should be in Boston.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 28, 2017 8:52:32 GMT -5
Good to hear about the velocity in the 4th. How did balls change up look? Thanks for your inquiry. I saw pitches mostly 88-94 range and definite curves with sharp break 74-78. The FB was predominant in use. There were a small number of pitches 84-86. I assumed that they were cutters but perhaps they were changeups. If so, there was not great separation from the FB. I don't recall particular downward movement or effectiveness of the pitch. Ball walked a small number. Most misses were with the FB high...but not unduly. Today he was mainly a FB/curve guy. Chavis was 1/2 with 2 walks and a SO on a 3-2 FB. His hit was a LD single to deeper right center. He was being pitched carefully and did not expand the zone. Some guys have an aura and he is one. Josh Ock had a pretty LD single over third 2 hops to the left fielder. Where are you getting your velo? Stadium gun? Thanks for the report Sarasoxer. Alex Speir last reported Ball hasn't showed enough consistency to be protected. I'm hopeful his next (last?) start is real good, making three in a row so they can think about it. I still like the increasing velocity through the start, the breaking ball and remaining projection in his build. If he can work on the cutter or change the goal is to become a sort of Drew Pomeranz type. Ball isn't getting protected. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 28, 2017 8:53:48 GMT -5
Velasquez with another strong outing; one hit over seven IP to get the win. Next start should be in Boston. lol to the Cup Of Coffee title: Cup of Coffee: Velazquez throws seven one-hit innings.ADD: Just teasing, great job... |
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Post by sarasoxer on Aug 28, 2017 16:26:01 GMT -5
Thanks for your inquiry. I saw pitches mostly 88-94 range and definite curves with sharp break 74-78. The FB was predominant in use. There were a small number of pitches 84-86. I assumed that they were cutters but perhaps they were changeups. If so, there was not great separation from the FB. I don't recall particular downward movement or effectiveness of the pitch. Ball walked a small number. Most misses were with the FB high...but not unduly. Today he was mainly a FB/curve guy. Chavis was 1/2 with 2 walks and a SO on a 3-2 FB. His hit was a LD single to deeper right center. He was being pitched carefully and did not expand the zone. Some guys have an aura and he is one. Josh Ock had a pretty LD single over third 2 hops to the left fielder. Where are you getting your velo? Stadium gun? Thanks for the report Sarasoxer. Alex Speir last reported Ball hasn't showed enough consistency to be protected. I'm hopeful his next (last?) start is real good, making three in a row so they can think about it. I still like the increasing velocity through the start, the breaking ball and remaining projection in his build. If he can work on the cutter or change the goal is to become a sort of Drew Pomeranz type. Ball isn't getting protected. Yes.... Stadium gun. |
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