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Farrell Fired + New Manager Search
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 19, 2017 14:48:16 GMT -5
Not so fast. That same article was updated to read: "LasMayores.com, MLB's official Spanish language website, reported earlier today that Alex Cora would be announced as the next manager of the Boston Red Sox after the ALCS. However, the tweet was deleted after MLB.com's Ian Browne reported that no decision has been made, according to Boston Red Sox president of operations Dave Dombrowski."
I think Cora will be named manager by Monday, just like Rob Bradford thinks, but not yet.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 19, 2017 14:51:47 GMT -5
Yeap, it makes it a lot easier to communicate with Devers who can't speak English at all really. That's not true at all. Devers speaks English, but not fluently. Like many players for whom English isn't their first language, he does interviews with an interpreter to make sure he doesn't misinterpret anything and so that he expresses himself more clearly and completely. See, for example, the following: www.providencejournal.com/sports/20170119/rafael-devers-has-learned-how-to-handle-pressure-of-being-top-prospectRelevant to this thread, most players who come up through a farm system to the majors are at least fluent in what I'd call "baseball English." In other words, they can communicate with teammates and coaches on-field, in-game. Beyond that, I'd presume every coaching staff in the game has at least one Spanish-speaking coach to help with that.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 19, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -5
Puerto Rican media is saying they are going to name him after the ALCS is over. It says according to multiple sources too.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 19, 2017 16:16:48 GMT -5
Tigers hired Gardenhire, per Ken Rosenthal.
Correction: Tigers intend to hire Gardenhire, but have yet to negotiate a contract, per Rosenthal.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 19, 2017 16:46:54 GMT -5
Let's see.
Media reports say that there's a 99% chance that Cora is Red Sox' guy, Brad Ausmus is not the Red Sox' guy, the Tigers intend on hiring Ron Gardenhire, and the Sox have no other candidates to interview, this isn't exactly a mystery....
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 19, 2017 17:24:18 GMT -5
Let's see. Media reports say that there's a 99% chance that Cora is Red Sox' guy, Brad Ausmus is not the Red Sox' guy, the Tigers intend on hiring Ron Gardenhire, and the Sox have no other candidates to interview, this isn't exactly a mystery.... Yes. The Sox are hiring bobby valentines twin, bobby Valentino
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Post by nomar on Oct 19, 2017 17:29:34 GMT -5
Writing is on the wall. I was skeptical at first, but I’ve been sold on Cora. Ready for the next chapter.
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Post by SALNotes on Oct 19, 2017 18:21:50 GMT -5
Gardy to the Tigers is a strange fit. A veteran mgr going into the early stages of a rebuild, I guess he just took what he could get. Seems like a situation where Detroit could have gotten creative and plucked a young up and comer from the minors.
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 19, 2017 20:35:30 GMT -5
Yeap, it makes it a lot easier to communicate with Devers who can't speak English at all really. That's not true at all. Devers speaks English, but not fluently. Like many players for whom English isn't their first language, he does interviews with an interpreter to make sure he doesn't misinterpret anything and so that he expresses himself more clearly and completely. See, for example, the following: www.providencejournal.com/sports/20170119/rafael-devers-has-learned-how-to-handle-pressure-of-being-top-prospectRelevant to this thread, most players who come up through a farm system to the majors are at least fluent in what I'd call "baseball English." In other words, they can communicate with teammates and coaches on-field, in-game. Beyond that, I'd presume every coaching staff in the game has at least one Spanish-speaking coach to help with that. All you need is to have a bi-lingual member on the on-field staff. It doesn't have to be a coach. The Sox have employed Japanese-speaking trainers who have helped with the pitchers for several years. I'm surprised, though, that North American managers and coaches who have dealt for years with Hispanics, and maybe managed in Caribbean winter leagues, haven't learned enough of the language to help out a young player like Devers in their early seasons.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 19, 2017 22:52:00 GMT -5
Let's see. Media reports say that there's a 99% chance that Cora is Red Sox' guy, Brad Ausmus is not the Red Sox' guy, the Tigers intend on hiring Ron Gardenhire, and the Sox have no other candidates to interview, this isn't exactly a mystery.... Yes. The Sox are hiring bobby valentines twin, bobby Valentino Yeah, that must be the clown with the sunglasses and silly mustache in the dugout who was managing the Mets when Bobby Valentine got kicked out of a game one time.How about the Sox hire Alex Cora instead? And Joey Cora can tag along?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Oct 19, 2017 23:53:13 GMT -5
That's not true at all. Devers speaks English, but not fluently. Like many players for whom English isn't their first language, he does interviews with an interpreter to make sure he doesn't misinterpret anything and so that he expresses himself more clearly and completely. See, for example, the following: www.providencejournal.com/sports/20170119/rafael-devers-has-learned-how-to-handle-pressure-of-being-top-prospectRelevant to this thread, most players who come up through a farm system to the majors are at least fluent in what I'd call "baseball English." In other words, they can communicate with teammates and coaches on-field, in-game. Beyond that, I'd presume every coaching staff in the game has at least one Spanish-speaking coach to help with that. All you need is to have a bi-lingual member on the on-field staff. It doesn't have to be a coach. The Sox have employed Japanese-speaking trainers who have helped with the pitchers for several years. I'm surprised, though, that North American managers and coaches who have dealt for years with Hispanics, and maybe managed in Caribbean winter leagues, haven't learned enough of the language to help out a young player like Devers in their early seasons. Yeah its a little surprising more people don't understand a lick of Spanish considering almost all of us take it at some point in school and its spoken everyday in every major city.
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Post by borisman on Oct 20, 2017 9:40:53 GMT -5
So, I believe the reports that Cora will be the new manager. My question is, if Houston makes it to the WS will they release Cora from his contract so he can get started here or will they make him wait until the WS is over? Not sure he'll make much of a difference is he stays through the WS unless the manager gets tossed in one of the games. Other than pre-series preparations he should be able to leave immediately.
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Post by nomar on Oct 20, 2017 9:49:17 GMT -5
If AJ Hinch is talking Cora up to DD, I think he’s trust him enough to keep him in the dugout throughout heir playoff run. I’m sure that Cora would love to have the Astros win the WS still.
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 20, 2017 11:10:01 GMT -5
Guess we all have to root for the Yankees to take the ALCS so that Cora can get started in Boston. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 20, 2017 11:17:12 GMT -5
So, I believe the reports that Cora will be the new manager. My question is, if Houston makes it to the WS will they release Cora from his contract so he can get started here or will they make him wait until the WS is over? Not sure he'll make much of a difference is he stays through the WS unless the manager gets tossed in one of the games. Other than pre-series preparations he should be able to leave immediately. He'd definitely stay with Houston through the WS. Why would the Red Sox need him sooner? It's not like this is football and they need to get started installing the playbook. Keep in mind that things like free agency don't even start, by rule, until after the World Series.
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Post by DesignatedKyle on Oct 20, 2017 11:30:19 GMT -5
I'm going to be scared of Ausmus being hired until I see Cora at the introductory press conference
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Post by jdb on Oct 20, 2017 11:40:02 GMT -5
Looks like Dusty Baker is out in Washington which means PC Mike Maddux could be looking for work. Cora played in Texas while he was there. Washington was the manager then.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 20, 2017 11:42:47 GMT -5
Would love Maddux in Boston. Good thought, jdb.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Oct 20, 2017 12:04:05 GMT -5
If you hire Cora, a Dusty Baker type would make a good bench coach.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 20, 2017 12:08:57 GMT -5
I’ve changed my mind I want to hire dusty baker as manger.
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Post by ematz1423 on Oct 20, 2017 12:18:58 GMT -5
Please keep Dusty Baker far away from the Red Sox dugout.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 20, 2017 12:38:16 GMT -5
Would love Maddux in Boston. Good thought, jdb. I'd be happy with Maddux as pitching coach as well, although I wonder where exactly Bannister fits in with all this. I remember Maddux pitching for the Red Sox. Didn't have great stuff but like his brother he could hit the corners and he had a nice stretch where he was very reliable - I think it was in 1996 or thereabouts. I know he was on the division winning 1995 team, too.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 20, 2017 12:45:41 GMT -5
Would love Maddux in Boston. Good thought, jdb. I'd be happy with Maddux as pitching coach as well, although I wonder where exactly Bannister fits in with all this. I remember Maddux pitching for the Red Sox. Didn't have great stuff but like his brother he could hit the corners and he had a nice stretch where he was very reliable - I think it was in 1996 or thereabouts. I know he was on the division winning 1995 team, too. Bannister works with the minor leaguers as well. I don't think you want him as a pitching coach.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 20, 2017 12:54:21 GMT -5
I'd be happy with Maddux as pitching coach as well, although I wonder where exactly Bannister fits in with all this. I remember Maddux pitching for the Red Sox. Didn't have great stuff but like his brother he could hit the corners and he had a nice stretch where he was very reliable - I think it was in 1996 or thereabouts. I know he was on the division winning 1995 team, too. Bannister works with the minor leaguers as well. I don't think you want him as a pitching coach. I'm fine with him having a more global role within the organization. I could have sworn that he was up with the big club spending a lot of time there. I could be wrong.
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Post by ramireja on Oct 20, 2017 12:58:21 GMT -5
Bannister works with the minor leaguers as well. I don't think you want him as a pitching coach. I'm fine with him having a more global role within the organization. I could have sworn that he was up with the big club spending a lot of time there. I could be wrong. This masslive article has your answer:
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