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Post by ramireja on Nov 2, 2017 13:29:33 GMT -5
There is already Kyle Schwarber trade proposal thread, but I think its worth considering if other Cubs might be more likely targets to acquire.
First, if I'm Theo, I'm looking at the roster next year and I'm feeling pretty good about the offense but I'm quite worried about the pitching; both the SP with Arrieta and Lackey set for FA, and the RP with Wade Davis and Uehara potentially leaving. When evaluating the roster for redundancy/depth in offense that could be used to acquire pitching, I'm looking at their utility type players who can play both middle infield and OF (Baez, Happ, and Zobrist). When healthy, you have Contreras at C, Rizzo at 1B, Russell at SS, Bryant at 3B, and Schwarber, Almora, and Heyward in the OF. That leaves 2B and potentially an OF spot for Baez, Happ, and Zobrist.
With Pedroia out for the early part of the year, would it make sense to try and acquire, say Baez? He could fill the 2B early, and then act as a super utility backing up 2B, SS, and OF positions later in the year. This might be a nice way of adding power to the lineup in addition to whatever moves we make at 1B and DH. If the Cubs were to deal Baez, they could still roll out Schwarber, Almora, Heyward, and Zobrist as 4 legit OF options with Happ at 2B. They even have Tommy La Stella as a decent backup 2B option.
So then, what might it take to acquire Baez? Is Rodriguez too much to give up? Its a bummer that Wright missed this past season, because if he had established himself over another season, he seems like he could have lined up well. Would Wright + an RP option (Workman?) get the deal done? Would Theo be interested in a couple of guys taken in his last Red Sox draft.....Barnes and/or Swihart?
Also, I'm targeting Baez here but could the Cubs be inclined to trade Happ? I have less interest in Zobrist who may be on the decline. Thoughts?
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 2, 2017 16:58:45 GMT -5
I don't think ERod is too much, it just creates a hole in the rotation. Sign me up for Baez. If you can do Wright, Workman, Barnes and Swihart I do it. His ability to play 2nd, 3rd and ss is perfect. Gives you insurance and a long-term replacement for Pedroia or Bogaerts. Happ interests me, just not as much. At the same time I doubt the Cubs make the deal for Wright. It just seems low, but maybe Theo loves some of his ex guys.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Nov 2, 2017 17:41:24 GMT -5
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Post by jackiebradleyjrjr on Nov 2, 2017 21:42:30 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 2, 2017 21:58:51 GMT -5
I don't think ERod is too much, it just creates a hole in the rotation. Sign me up for Baez. If you can do Wright, Workman, Barnes and Swihart I do it. That isn't going to work. The Cubs probably aren't in the market for knuckle ball pitchers coming off major back surgery. Wishful thinking there. If you want Baez, Edaurdo would probably be the standard price of admission. |
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Post by telson13 on Nov 2, 2017 22:21:21 GMT -5
There is already Kyle Schwarber trade proposal thread, but I think its worth considering if other Cubs might be more likely targets to acquire. First, if I'm Theo, I'm looking at the roster next year and I'm feeling pretty good about the offense but I'm quite worried about the pitching; both the SP with Arrieta and Lackey set for FA, and the RP with Wade Davis and Uehara potentially leaving. When evaluating the roster for redundancy/depth in offense that could be used to acquire pitching, I'm looking at their utility type players who can play both middle infield and OF (Baez, Happ, and Zobrist). When healthy, you have Contreras at C, Rizzo at 1B, Russell at SS, Bryant at 3B, and Schwarber, Almora, and Heyward in the OF. That leaves 2B and potentially an OF spot for Baez, Happ, and Zobrist. With Pedroia out for the early part of the year, would it make sense to try and acquire, say Baez? He could fill the 2B early, and then act as a super utility backing up 2B, SS, and OF positions later in the year. This might be a nice way of adding power to the lineup in addition to whatever moves we make at 1B and DH. If the Cubs were to deal Baez, they could still roll out Schwarber, Almora, Heyward, and Zobrist as 4 legit OF options with Happ at 2B. They even have Tommy La Stella as a decent backup 2B option. So then, what might it take to acquire Baez? Is Rodriguez too much to give up? Its a bummer that Wright missed this past season, because if he had established himself over another season, he seems like he could have lined up well. Would Wright + an RP option (Workman?) get the deal done? Would Theo be interested in a couple of guys taken in his last Red Sox draft.....Barnes and/or Swihart? Also, I'm targeting Baez here but could the Cubs be inclined to trade Happ? I have less interest in Zobrist who may be on the decline. Thoughts? Baez would be a great get, as I think he's still got some improvements up his sleeve. He's probably 2-3 years off his prime. That said, acquiring him would hurt. People seem awfully ready to trade Rodriguez, but I think he's also primed for a breakout. Piecing something together without giving up an integral piece (something I consider him to be, given his performance/cost) would be ideal. Not sure it lines up, though. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Nov 2, 2017 23:36:18 GMT -5
I don't think ERod is too much, it just creates a hole in the rotation. Sign me up for Baez. If you can do Wright, Workman, Barnes and Swihart I do it. That isn't going to work. The Cubs probably aren't in the market for knuckle ball pitchers coming off major back surgery. Wishful thinking there. If you want Baez, Edaurdo would probably be the standard price of admission. I was commenting on soneone else idea and you left out the part were I said I doubt the Cubs do it. Not exactly sure what you are trying to do. |
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Post by ramireja on Nov 3, 2017 13:42:19 GMT -5
I don't think ERod is too much, it just creates a hole in the rotation. Sign me up for Baez. If you can do Wright, Workman, Barnes and Swihart I do it. That isn't going to work. The Cubs probably aren't in the market for knuckle ball pitchers coming off major back surgery. Wishful thinking there. If you want Baez, Edaurdo would probably be the standard price of admission. Yeah, but what do you think about the part that includes Barnes, Workman, and Swihart (in addition to Wright)? Nobody has proposed a Baez-Wright trade straight up, and if Wright were part of a larger trade, are you saying the Cubs wouldn't even want to roll the dice on that? |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Nov 3, 2017 17:44:51 GMT -5
That isn't going to work. The Cubs probably aren't in the market for knuckle ball pitchers coming off major back surgery. Wishful thinking there. If you want Baez, Edaurdo would probably be the standard price of admission. Yeah, but what do you think about the part that includes Barnes, Workman, and Swihart (in addition to Wright)? Nobody has proposed a Baez-Wright trade straight up, and if Wright were part of a larger trade, are you saying the Cubs wouldn't even want to roll the dice on that? I don't think that's close to fair value. No one values knuckle ball pitchers and Barnes/Workman are good but not great relievers. The Cubs have a 30 homerun bat at catcher, not even sure why they would even care to have Swihart. Anything short of JBJ or Eduardo is probably a no go for the Cubs. |
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