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Post by vermontsox1 on Dec 18, 2017 16:04:30 GMT -5
Per Red Sox. Evan Drellich and others reporting it is $13 million over two years, plus incentives.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 18, 2017 16:07:02 GMT -5
Red Sox announce that Mitch Moreland has been re-signed to a two year deal. Hopefully it's a cheap deal. I hope J.D. Martinez follows soon. |
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Post by keany on Dec 18, 2017 16:07:31 GMT -5
Not thrilled, but I can live with this for the price. I think Moreland playing through his injury brought down his whole season
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 18, 2017 16:10:33 GMT -5
At least the Sox won't lose draft picks when they sign J.D. Martinez now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 18, 2017 16:12:40 GMT -5
13 million dollars guarenteed, can earn another 1 million in incentives.
6.5-7 million a year AAV wise.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 18, 2017 16:20:39 GMT -5
Meh. Kind of disappointed. There are many 1b on the market and I think there's higher upside on that market for roughly the same money.
This basically means that 1b, if Mitch is the guy, will be at best middle of the back but more likely lower. 1b was a position that I was hoping would be upgraded. Instead it will remain mediocre over the next couple of years.
Obviously this eliminates Hosmer from consideration.
It didn't make sense that the Sox would drop that kind of money on JDM and Hosmer.
But now either they trade JBJ and make JDM their LF or use Moreland as Hanley 1b insurance if they hang onto JBJ and DH Martinez.
The other possibility is that Hanley hits the bench but I'd rather see Moreland off the bench. He doesn't have the capability of having a really big season the way Hanley does.
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Post by nomar on Dec 18, 2017 16:30:16 GMT -5
The Eric Hosmer being our #1 target theory has been debunked.
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Post by huskies15 on Dec 18, 2017 16:32:28 GMT -5
I like the signing. Better than paying Hosmer. .877 OPS before breaking his toe, and Statcast really likes him. Still had 22 HRs last year. Need to sign JDM, but this is a solid move.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 18, 2017 16:36:11 GMT -5
The Eric Hosmer being our #1 target theory has been debunked. I'd guess it's more likely that Boras was being a moron. |
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Post by Guidas on Dec 18, 2017 16:58:20 GMT -5
Approve of this move. It makes more sense than Hosmer, especially with 2 years and Hanley able to platoon with him (as long as Hanley remains healthy).
However, does anyone else think this makes JD Martinez a bit more of a long shot? Where do you play him if Hanley will no longer be the primary first baseman?
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Post by jiant2520 on Dec 18, 2017 16:59:41 GMT -5
Ehh... would have preferred an upgrade, but I can live with it, so long as Moreland is not expected to play every day. If used correctly, he can be effective. Now we need a power bat.....
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Post by jiant2520 on Dec 18, 2017 17:01:09 GMT -5
Approve of this move. It makes more sense than Hosmer, especially with 2 years and Hanley able to platoon with him (as long as Hanley remains healthy). However, does anyone else think this makes JD Martinez a bit more of a long shot? Where do you play him if Hanley will no longer be the primary first baseman? I would sign a DH like Martinez and platoon Hanley and Moreland. |
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Post by doctorduck21 on Dec 18, 2017 17:04:09 GMT -5
Approve of this move. It makes more sense than Hosmer, especially with 2 years and Hanley able to platoon with him (as long as Hanley remains healthy). However, does anyone else think this makes JD Martinez a bit more of a long shot? Where do you play him if Hanley will no longer be the primary first baseman? I think if we get Martinez, he'll play left with Benny moving to center and JBJ traded. Unless we find a team willing to take on Hanley's deal if we pay it down a bit |
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 18, 2017 17:09:45 GMT -5
I doubt that the Red Sox told Moreland that he'll get a lot less playing time than he got last year before he re-signed and I'm sure it came up.
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Post by nomar on Dec 18, 2017 17:14:58 GMT -5
Hanley is typically better vs LHP. He and Moreland in a platoon actually makes sense. JDM at DH is still a good fit and gives us some OF depth for injuries.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 18, 2017 17:30:07 GMT -5
I don't get the two years, unless that's the only way he would accept a part time role. I can live with this if Martinez is signed to DH and act as a 4th OF.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 18, 2017 17:35:23 GMT -5
Not a huge fan of this, but yeah whatever. If they don't add Martinez or a legit bat then this offseason is a failure.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 18, 2017 17:38:53 GMT -5
I don't get the two years, unless that's the only way he would accept a part time role. I can live with this if Martinez is signed to DH and act as a 4th OF. He signed way under market last year. This is closer to what he was worth then and now. |
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Post by gerry on Dec 18, 2017 17:45:01 GMT -5
Remember how Mitchie 2-Bags carried the team for weeks, winding up with 34 doubles and 22 HR and, as JimEd pointed out, an 850 Slg until he fractured his toe!?!? He likes Fenway, uses the Monster masterfully, and should do at least as well in 2018. Also important that Marco, Lin, Marrero, Holt, Devers, Xander, CV, Leon, Mookie, JBJ, and the pitchers are all used to him and respect his GG caliber glove, accurate arm and baseball smarts. He offers us this for a $1M raise; and saves $13-15M over Hosmer (who might not have been worth that extra $14M.) Hanley and Brentz (and Travis?) will make excellent platoon partners.
I think it's a smart move. $7M + $22-25M for JDM keeps the Sox under the $237 draconian cap, even without a trade or DFA. DDo knows what he is doing, and says what he is doing.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Dec 18, 2017 17:53:20 GMT -5
I don't get the two years, unless that's the only way he would accept a part time role. I can live with this if Martinez is signed to DH and act as a 4th OF. He signed way under market last year. This is closer to what he was worth then and now. No he didn't, these are horrible markets for a guy like Moreland. Just tons of other options that drive the price down. In this market, with all the options, this is a top rate type of deal. He jumped at it because he wasn't getting a better deal. |
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Post by ematz1423 on Dec 18, 2017 17:59:19 GMT -5
I've never been the biggest Moreland fan. He's definitely serviceable though. After seeing the Carlos Santanna deal, I definitely like this deal more for sox. Santanna isn't that much better than Moreland and Mitch is basically 1/3 the price and they don't lose any draft picks to resign him. This deal seems like a great move. Not sure what else this may mean to the rest of the off season though.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 18, 2017 18:00:27 GMT -5
He signed way under market last year. This is closer to what he was worth then and now. No he didn't, these are horrible markets for a guy like Moreland. Just tons of other options that drive the price down. In this market, with all the options, this is a top rate type of deal. He jumped at it because he wasn't getting a better deal. Yeah ok. I'll let you be right because I don't want to argue for 100 posts. |
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Post by Canseco on Dec 18, 2017 18:04:44 GMT -5
I like the short term deal. Moreland has a good glove, and we know he'll produce out of the 6 or 7 hole at a decent clip. Best of all, we didn't panic and overpay for Hosmer. Well done, DD.
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Post by Don Caballero on Dec 18, 2017 18:06:52 GMT -5
I've never been the biggest Moreland fan. He's definitely serviceable though. After seeing the Carlos Santanna deal, I definitely like this deal more for sox. Santanna isn't that much better than Moreland and Mitch is basically 1/3 the price and they don't lose any draft picks to resign him. This deal seems like a great move. Not sure what else this may mean to the rest of the off season though. Carlos Santana is significantly better than Mitch Moreland and if signing him to the same deal the Phillies got him for was an option, then signing Moreland is huge a mistake. Unless it means we're getting Martinez. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 18, 2017 18:10:56 GMT -5
I don't get the two years It puts the Sox in the market for Goldshmidt or in the market for one of the best kept secrets in baseball in Nolan Arenado two years from now. |
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