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Post by Bogey2Short on Feb 5, 2018 23:53:39 GMT -5
Let's face it, this standoff between the sox and JDM is getting BORING! Here are some alternatives I'd like DD to take a look at:
Lucas Duda: 217 .322 .496 .818 30 Jacks....Not a good fit imo due to splits and we have hanley (Who IMHO is pry going to rebound) and Moreland, who seems to be a steady contributer...has a decent track record of power
Logan Morrison: .246 .353 .516 .868 38 big flies...again not huge with getting another first baseman, and he seems to have more potential to be great over Duda if he can repeat...IMPORTANT NOTE: somehow get him to hit with one out... .279 .402 .656 1.058 17 Doorbells in 157 AB's
OR my personal favorite:
Carlos Gonzalez: .262 .339 .423 .762 14 salami's.....everyone say's he's somehow washed up, but this wouldn't be the first time he's had a great comeback year...remember 2014?....he's also apparently had a mechanical flaw that he fixed late in the season, which caused his .377 .484 .766 1.250 6 bomb September....again his career numbers most definitely benefit from Colorado, but I have a feeling we'd get to see somewhere above 20 to 25 Hr's with a strong slash line
Honorable mentions I don't want to talk about...
Carlos Gomez: .255 .340 .462 .802 17 Touchdowns
Mike Napoli: .193 .285 .428 .713 29 Ding Dongs
Melky Cabrera: .285 .324 .423 .746 17 Moon Pies
Neil Walker: .265 .362 .439 .801 14 Bye Bye's in only 385 AB's....Also good fill in for Pedey
Again, I'd love JD over everyone, but eventually you gotta look elsewhere before we run out of time
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Post by mobaz on Feb 6, 2018 10:05:50 GMT -5
Sorry, the Sox should only get guys who hit Dingerz, and JD Martinez is the only Dingerz hitter left.
I kinda like the idea of Neil Walker. He doesn't exactly make sense with the rest of the roster, but solid bat and solid Petey insurance. It'd kind of be the equivalent of the Nunez or Aaron Hill trades but not waiting until the trade deadline.
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Post by nomar on Feb 6, 2018 10:14:54 GMT -5
Depending on the price, Neil Walker would make sense for this team. He didn’t get a QO because he accepted one last year.
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Post by Addam603 on Feb 6, 2018 10:24:58 GMT -5
Neil Walker has played over 97% of his career at 2B. Would make sense at the beginning of the year when Pedroia is out, but after Pedey returns, what do you do with him? I don’t think the upgrade of Walker over someone like Núñez, Holt, Marrero, or Lin is enough to make up for his lacking as a utility player.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 6, 2018 10:46:16 GMT -5
Walker would be good to have at 2B while Pedey is out, but what he'd do after that is unclear. I imagine he'd be platooning with Hanley. It's just kind of ridiculous to be paying a full time 2B full price to be a platoon DH and I can't imagine he'd be thrilled with that opportunity.
He's terrible against LHP, so he'd be worthless at 1B.
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Post by manfred on Feb 6, 2018 10:56:09 GMT -5
I still prefer Morrison. Might prefer him to JDM, if he comes on 1-year deal. Platoon with Hanley. Clear both their salaries at the end of the year and have a lot of dough (especially please God if Price opts out) to extend guys and maybe get a real banger.
Put it this way: I don’t think the gap between JDM and Morrison is the gap between winning the WS and not this year.
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Post by giltg on Feb 7, 2018 23:12:18 GMT -5
I chose Melky Cabrera that was on the list but the player that I'm interested in is Jose Bautista who is not on the list. Peter Gammons reported back in January that Bautista had followed advice from friends and got his eyes checked and found that his vision was really bad and now has glasses/contacts.If his vision has improved he might be worth taking a gamble on maybe get them on a one year contract .If it doesn't work out maybe he bides time for Chavis or a deadline trade for an available power hitter.IMO
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Post by giltg on Feb 8, 2018 5:25:21 GMT -5
I should also add that Jose Bautista has 26 homeruns in 66 games at Fenway Park.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 8, 2018 9:26:08 GMT -5
I should also add that Jose Bautista has 26 homeruns in 66 games at Fenway Park. Yeah, but most of those were when he was actually a really good player. He isn't anymore so I don't know how relevant that is anymore. Bautista is washed up at this point. |
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Post by m1keyboots on Feb 8, 2018 9:43:24 GMT -5
Now that we know JD will hold out until the season thus creating an even bigger distance as far as camaraderie goes between him and his teammates included in his Primadonna actions. I suppose Neil Walker would be a good Lefty stopgap until Dustin is fully healthy
Sure JD will hit 35 next year and possibly the year after but the last couple years will be paying for basically Hanley Ramirez without the humor
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Post by Addam603 on Feb 8, 2018 9:45:53 GMT -5
For a reasonable amount, I’d take a shot at Bautista. He struck out 170 times last year, 54 more than his previous career high. If that was a result of him not being able to see the ball well coming in, then he could be an interesting buy low candidate. To be clear though, it would have to be buying very, very low.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 8, 2018 10:05:25 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but Hanley is a far better option to Bautista and the Red Sox are already stuck with him.
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Post by giltg on Feb 8, 2018 10:26:48 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but Hanley is a far better option to Bautista and the Red Sox are already stuck with him. But I'm wondering if you're willing to give Hanley those 497 at bats that will vest his option for 2019 for 22 million dollars? |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 8, 2018 10:36:55 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but Hanley is a far better option to Bautista and the Red Sox are already stuck with him. But I'm wondering if you're willing to give Hanley those 497 at bats that will vest his option for 2019 for 22 million dollars? My thought is that if he's playing well enough to justify getting that many, then sure, why not? Healthy, productive Hanley is worth that money, and if he's not hitting well, then yeah, you bench him. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 8, 2018 10:40:19 GMT -5
For a reasonable amount, I’d take a shot at Bautista. He struck out 170 times last year, 54 more than his previous career high. If that was a result of him not being able to see the ball well coming in, then he could be an interesting buy low candidate. To be clear though, it would have to be buying very, very low. I remember toward the end of his career Jim Rice finally giving into needing glasses. Unfortunately he was washed up and it didn't matter. I suspect it's similar with Bautista. |
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Post by manfred on Feb 8, 2018 10:44:33 GMT -5
Bautista is in a pretty steady decline and he’s 37. He would have to come very cheap, but even so, he might be more clutter than help. I’d rather Morrison or maybe Lucroy — short of a reasonable JDM contract.
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Post by giltg on Feb 8, 2018 10:50:54 GMT -5
I could be sold on the idea of having Hanley for a DH-first baseman type in 2018 I'm just not sold on the 2019 option there's no way of knowing how Hanley would be for 2019.If Hanley is healthy and productive in 2018 then we don't need JDM.
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Post by benfromma on Feb 12, 2018 18:01:49 GMT -5
If signing Martinez fails you don't sign any those remaining. Most of those hitters if not all don't even hit above .250 and what everybody fails to mention about Martinez is he not only a power hitter but a regular .300 hitter. I would try the trade market before the beginning of the season and again make sure there is value received if not would I see the need @ the trade deadline depending need and our chance to win it all.
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Post by giltg on Feb 15, 2018 20:12:30 GMT -5
Along with the players mentioned in this poll they're still players left out there to be had on one year contracts with the second year option as in they used with Nunez. I'd be interested in a one year deal with Mike Moustakas Jose Bautista and Mark Reynolds. Moustakas made 8.7 million Batista could be had at cut rate lower than that and Reynolds made 1.5 m last year. And if I read correctly if you sign a player with a compensation pic attached to him to a contract less than 50 million there's trade target Ryan Braun who makes 19m this year and then 18m next year. With the signing of Nunez the Sox now have a plan what it is is anybody's guess.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 15, 2018 20:20:07 GMT -5
Along with the players mentioned in this poll they're still players left out there to be had on one year contracts with the second year option as in they used with Nunez. I'd be interested in a one year deal with Mike Moustakas Jose Bautista and Mark Reynolds. Moustakas made 8.7 million Batista could be had at cut rate lower than that and Reynolds made 1.5 m last year. And if I read correctly if you sign a player with a compensation pic attached to him to a contract less than 50 million there's trade target Ryan Braun who makes 19m this year and then 18m next year. With the signing of Nunez the Sox now have a plan what it is is anybody's guess. The Brewers are NOT trading Braun. They're moving him to 1b. He's the cleanup hitter in a lineup which the Brewers expect to contend with. |
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Post by giltg on Feb 15, 2018 20:36:47 GMT -5
Along with the players mentioned in this poll they're still players left out there to be had on one year contracts with the second year option as in they used with Nunez. I'd be interested in a one year deal with Mike Moustakas Jose Bautista and Mark Reynolds. Moustakas made 8.7 million Batista could be had at cut rate lower than that and Reynolds made 1.5 m last year. And if I read correctly if you sign a player with a compensation pic attached to him to a contract less than 50 million there's trade target Ryan Braun who makes 19m this year and then 18m next year. With the signing of Nunez the Sox now have a plan what it is is anybody's guess. The Brewers are NOT trading Braun. They're moving him to 1b. He's the cleanup hitter in a lineup which the Brewers expect to contend with. All part of the game. There's always a chance anything could happen. They say one thing but then do another. But after the Nunez signing actually gives hope of something else could be in the works. I would like a power bat but at the right price.As we speak Spanish radio is reporting talks are heating up with JDM so let's see what happens |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 15, 2018 20:41:41 GMT -5
The Brewers are NOT trading Braun. They're moving him to 1b. He's the cleanup hitter in a lineup which the Brewers expect to contend with. All part of the game. There's always a chance anything could happen. They say one thing but then do another. But after the Nunez signing actually gives hope of something else could be in the works. I would like a power bat but at the right price.As we speak Spanish radio is reporting talks are heating up with JDM so let's see what happens Yup. I saw the same report you did. Hope it's true. I doubt there's much chance Braun gets moved, but there's a really good chance that Khris Davis does at the trade deadline. He's not the hitter JDM is, but his power is legit. Between Davis and Matt Olson, the A's have two guys that should clear 40 homers in that lineup. Those two can mash. Like you, hope this thread is all moot soon. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Feb 17, 2018 11:30:57 GMT -5
Give me Duda! I think the AL East parks outside of Tampa really help him and he should be cheap and not require a long-term contract. Just a good depth move if no Martinez.
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