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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 13, 2018 12:54:42 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this is the right place for it or perhaps the spring training thread, but looking at mlbtraderumors.com it mentions that the Giants are negotiating with lefty reliever Tony Watson. The Giants are nearing the LT threshold and signing Watson would probably put them over.
The significance of the article is that it mentions the Phillies and Red Sox as also being in the mix, per Jon Heyman.
So I don't know if going after Watson has anything to do with JDM other than maybe spending some money earmarked for him or perhaps the two things are mutually exclusive - depends where they are with their budgeting as they try to fit JDM if they can sign him.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 13, 2018 13:03:02 GMT -5
Doesn't signing a relief pitcher pretty much force them to waive Brian Johnson? I don't see Watson as a big enough upgrade since he's pretty mediocre vs RHB.
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 13, 2018 13:26:55 GMT -5
Eh - I'd rather a lefty who has more extreme splits and is used correctly than one who is just okay against lefties but is slightly better against righties. Last years mediocrity looks mostly like BABIP noise - lefties had a .329 mark against him in 107 PA, about 60 points higher than their career number against him. Strikeout and walk numbers were still strong.
Johnson's not really a fit in the lefty specialist role - ideally he'd be getting used as a multi-inning reliever. It would keep him stretched out in case of an injury, and he can help limit the starters innings. I'd think Watson would be more likely to push Scott back down to Pawtucket.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Feb 13, 2018 15:38:11 GMT -5
Watson would be a good fit on a two year deal. The Sox could use another high leverage arm back there. Joe Kelly, Matt Barnes, and Hembree shouldn't be trusted much in these roles. Plus, the Sox could really use a different look in a guy from the left side.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 13, 2018 16:11:18 GMT -5
If Johnson is still sitting mid-to-upper 80s like Speier reports he was last year, then he ain't sticking either way. Put it this way: "we'd have to cut a guy who wouldn't have a prayer at making the MLB roster but that he's out of options" isn't a good reason not to sign a guy. As for Watson, here's a good read on why he was so much better with the Dodgers than the Pirates last year: www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2017/10/2/16389198/dodgers-tony-watson-sinker-statcast-ground-balls . Maybe he's not an 8th-inning guy, but on a cheap deal I'd be in on Watson. In a world where guys like Cishek, Kintzler, and Gregerson are getting between 2/10 and 2/13, I'd be in for, say, the 2/5 that David Hernandez and Matt Albers got, maybe even up to 2/8.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 14, 2018 15:02:24 GMT -5
From today's 108 Stitches (which isn't going to be Speier every day like it was previously, unfortunately, although I think today's was Speier):
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 19, 2018 16:48:11 GMT -5
Watson signed with the Dodgers for a deal that allowed them to keep under the CBT. 2 years for a guaranteed 9 million, but incentives and escalators can make it 2/14 or 3/21. That non-guaranteed money won't count this year against the CBT. Interesting.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Feb 19, 2018 16:52:41 GMT -5
Watson signed with the Dodgers for a deal that allowed them to keep under the CBT. 2 years for a guaranteed 9 million, but incentives and escalators can make it 2/14 or 3/21. That non-guaranteed money won't count this year against the CBT. Interesting. You mean the Giants? What happens to the non guaranteed money if he reaches those incentive and escalators as far as the CBT goes?
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Post by soxfanatic on Feb 19, 2018 16:53:00 GMT -5
Watson signed with the Dodgers for a deal that allowed them to keep under the CBT. 2 years for a guaranteed 9 million, but incentives and escalators can make it 2/14 or 3/21. That non-guaranteed money won't count this year against the CBT. Interesting. Giants that is, but the point stands.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Feb 20, 2018 10:13:18 GMT -5
Watson signed with the Dodgers for a deal that allowed them to keep under the CBT. 2 years for a guaranteed 9 million, but incentives and escalators can make it 2/14 or 3/21. That non-guaranteed money won't count this year against the CBT. Interesting. You mean the Giants? What happens to the non guaranteed money if he reaches those incentive and escalators as far as the CBT goes? Yeah my bad. Looking at the CBA, they must've done the performance bonuses so that they increase his salary in future seasons. See 4(b) below.
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