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Post by jiant2520 on Jun 1, 2018 7:48:40 GMT -5
I am all for letting Wright pitch as the 5th starter, while Pomeranz goes down to figure it out. Also DFA Johnson and call up Poyner and Scott.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 1, 2018 9:20:22 GMT -5
Goes down where? He's out of options.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 1, 2018 10:19:36 GMT -5
Wright is throwing the ball well and it is a tough decision. You want him to have the ball for enough innings that matter or your wasting his proficiency.
That said, I don't see it until after the ASB or so. I think Cora's mgt. style dictates a patient approach with decisions like this.
At some point, it appears the decision will be made for him, if Wright continues like this.
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Post by sibbysisti on Jun 1, 2018 10:26:28 GMT -5
Goes down where? He's out of options. The option is a rehab assignment. The training staff seems to be "creative" in finding physical issues which require a DL followed by some time in Rhode Island to hone his skills. Jalen Beeks, already on the 40 man, is another possibility for a temporary 5th starter stint. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 1, 2018 13:20:35 GMT -5
Wright is throwing the ball well and it is a tough decision. You want him to have the ball for enough innings that matter or your wasting his proficiency. That said, I don't see it until after the ASB or so. I think Cora's mgt. style dictates a patient approach with decisions like this. At some point, it appears the decision will be made for him, if Wright continues like this. A patient approach is less than 8 awful starts with an ERA approaching 7. This is getting ludicrous when there are so many other options. It's not like all we have is Kyle Kendrick as a 6th starter. |
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Post by bluechip on Jun 1, 2018 14:09:04 GMT -5
Pomeranz needs to go away for a week or two, I don't think there's much question about that even though last night's start wasn't technically catastrophic. I like Wright and think he's a good option, but I'd like to see what Beeks looks like in an mlb game first. Beeks could be a life saver over the next couple of years with Sale, Porcello, Pomeranz, and (technically) Price all with the potential to leave over this offseason and next. I'd like to see Beeks go into spring training next year as a known commodity and using him to give Pomeranz some time off right now would be a great way to do that. Wright isn't going anywhere and we know what he can do. All for the Johnson DFA right now, not much hope left on that one. However, he did reach the milestone of advancing to the the "Graduated MLBers" list on the homepage. I am fully on board with Beeks. I realize Beeks doesn’t have 99 mph fastball or Pedro Martinez’s circle change up, but his minor league numbers, over a large sample size are very very very good. It’s been some time since a Red Sox draftee or international singee had a spot in this rotation. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the last Red Sox draftees who were in the rotation were Buchholz and Lester. |
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Post by jiant2520 on Jun 1, 2018 20:14:50 GMT -5
Goes down where? He's out of options. As others pointed to, the DL. |
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Post by jiant2520 on Jun 1, 2018 20:15:37 GMT -5
Pomeranz needs to go away for a week or two, I don't think there's much question about that even though last night's start wasn't technically catastrophic. I like Wright and think he's a good option, but I'd like to see what Beeks looks like in an mlb game first. Beeks could be a life saver over the next couple of years with Sale, Porcello, Pomeranz, and (technically) Price all with the potential to leave over this offseason and next. I'd like to see Beeks go into spring training next year as a known commodity and using him to give Pomeranz some time off right now would be a great way to do that. Wright isn't going anywhere and we know what he can do. All for the Johnson DFA right now, not much hope left on that one. However, he did reach the milestone of advancing to the the "Graduated MLBers" list on the homepage. Johnson is offering nothing right now... |
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Post by danr on Jun 2, 2018 0:43:31 GMT -5
I think Johnson would do better as a starter but probably not better enough to start for the Sox. If Wade Miley can hang in the majors, then there has to be a spot for Johnson. His best value to the Sox might be as a piece in a trade. DFAing him makes no sense.
Pomeranz was successful as a RP with Oakland and maybe another approach with him might be some time in the BP. He could work on his pitches and his velocity in the BP and pitch an inning or two in games. I am not sold on either Velasquez or Wright as a replacement but they both deserve a chance. I watched the Pawtucket game when Beeks pitched and he was impressive. I think he might be the ultimate solution, assuming Pomeranz doesn't get fixed.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 4, 2018 9:31:30 GMT -5
Steven Wright is listed as the starter for the Detroit series game 1 on the Sox website.
Did I miss something ? Was that announced previously ?
Extra rest for starters?
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Post by 07redsox on Jun 4, 2018 10:09:17 GMT -5
Steven Wright is listed as the starter for the Detroit series game 1 on the Sox website. Did I miss something ? Was that announced previously ? Extra rest for starters? Yes, it was announced previously! I read an article yesterday talking about the decision. With the off-day today Cora felt it was a good time to insert Wright for a start to push all of the starters back a day and give them an additional day off on top of today. |
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Post by voiceofreason on Jun 4, 2018 13:20:05 GMT -5
I like the idea of all the starters getting an extra day hopefully it proves to be a wise move.
In regards to Pomeranz, I give him one more start and if he doesn't have a good outing then as has been mentioned a phantom DL stint followed up with AAA rehab or put him in the pen to work things out or not. A 6.8 era along with a 1.8 whip doesn't belong in the Sox rotation when there are options like Wright, Beeks and Velazquez.
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Post by jiant2520 on Jun 4, 2018 16:30:23 GMT -5
I like the idea of all the starters getting an extra day hopefully it proves to be a wise move. In regards to Pomeranz, I give him one more start and if he doesn't have a good outing then as has been mentioned a phantom DL stint followed up with AAA rehab or put him in the pen to work things out or not. A 6.8 era along with a 1.8 whip doesn't belong in the Sox rotation when there are options like Wright, Beeks and Velazquez. Agreed |
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Post by bluechip on Jun 5, 2018 16:23:21 GMT -5
Pomeranz to the DL. Interesting to see if someone takes his Thursday start.
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Post by jiant2520 on Jun 5, 2018 16:29:37 GMT -5
I kind of felt this one....
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Post by ericmvan on Jun 5, 2018 21:48:23 GMT -5
Pomeranz to the DL. Interesting to see if someone takes his Thursday start. Beeks. Great idea to see how the stuff plays in MLB against a bad team. He can go back down after the start and the net result is that Wright takes the 5th starter spot, with the series in Baltimore next week being either:
E-Rod 4 days rest
Wright 6, which would allow him to pitch in relief mid-way Sale 4
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Wright 5 E-Rod 5 Sale 4
I suspect the whole "everyone gets two days of rest" strategy was actually "let's get Chris Sale 6 days of rest and also see what Wright has as a starter since there's no guarantee Pomeranz continues to make progress."
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Post by radiohix on Jun 5, 2018 22:19:58 GMT -5
Pomeranz to the DL. Interesting to see if someone takes his Thursday start. Beeks. Great idea to see how the stuff plays in MLB against a bad team.
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Post by jiant2520 on Jul 27, 2018 9:40:33 GMT -5
Pomeranz needs to go away for a week or two, I don't think there's much question about that even though last night's start wasn't technically catastrophic. I like Wright and think he's a good option, but I'd like to see what Beeks looks like in an mlb game first. Beeks could be a life saver over the next couple of years with Sale, Porcello, Pomeranz, and (technically) Price all with the potential to leave over this offseason and next. I'd like to see Beeks go into spring training next year as a known commodity and using him to give Pomeranz some time off right now would be a great way to do that. Wright isn't going anywhere and we know what he can do. All for the Johnson DFA right now, not much hope left on that one. However, he did reach the milestone of advancing to the the "Graduated MLBers" list on the homepage. Johnson is offering nothing right now... I was a bit off here.... |
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