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Post by jimed14 on Jun 5, 2018 15:01:38 GMT -5
Callis says he was told all spring Granberg would be one of the first seniors. Says he is an exit velocity guy.
And he gets the Youk comp.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 5, 2018 15:02:32 GMT -5
Senior, so here’s your below slot guy. Likely saving 230 k on this pick. You think he'll only get $10k? That seems a bit light even for a no leverage guy given he is ranked by a couple of places. usually the nepotism picks in 7/8/9 get $10k. It's the 6th, so it's not like we're talking about the third round. Maybe not 10k, but it's like Mike Augliera in 2012 - went in the 5th and got $25k. They're not going to give a college senior more than something in that range. There's no incentive to do so.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 5, 2018 15:02:53 GMT -5
Senior, so here’s your below slot guy. Likely saving 230 k on this pick. Nah. He's a top 500 guy. He doesn't have the same leverage but he's not a $10K type. He could've waited until the 10th round and gotten $150K so I'm guessing he goes about there. Some of this savings is going toward Casas and Decker.
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Post by usdballum on Jun 5, 2018 15:03:08 GMT -5
Senior, so here’s your below slot guy. Likely saving 230 k on this pick. You think he'll only get $10k? That seems a bit light even for a no leverage guy given he is ranked by a couple of places. usually the nepotism picks in 7/8/9 get $10k. Oh yeah, Granberg has no leverage as he is a college senior.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 5, 2018 15:03:22 GMT -5
Who needs pitchers when we can't develop them anyway? But it's not like we don't need the bats as well. Liking most of these picks.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 5, 2018 15:04:23 GMT -5
They're not going to give a college senior more than something in that range. There's no incentive to do so. I disagree. If they can get a Top 500 guy for $100-$150K now (11th round money) , and get the $100-140K savings, it's a good idea for both sides.
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Post by lennsakata on Jun 5, 2018 15:06:39 GMT -5
You think he'll only get $10k? That seems a bit light even for a no leverage guy given he is ranked by a couple of places. usually the nepotism picks in 7/8/9 get $10k. Oh yeah, Granberg has no leverage as he is a college senior. I mentioned that in my post that he had no leverage...still assumed he'd get $50-75k given his track record and being a ranked guy.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 5, 2018 15:07:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure what college stats mean, especially at a place like Dallas Baptist University, but Devlin Granberg had a 17% BB rate and 14% K rate this year to go along with his power.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 5, 2018 15:12:16 GMT -5
It seems the Red Sox have completely changed their drafting philosophy. All 4 of Casas, Decker, Cottam and Granberg have plus or better raw power.
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Post by nomar on Jun 5, 2018 15:18:21 GMT -5
I'm not sure what college stats mean, especially at a place like Dallas Baptist University, but Devlin Granberg had a 17% BB rate and 14% K rate this year to go along with his power. That ISO is nothing spectacular, but it is very solid. And whatever plan he hits the ball at, at least he's doing so hard. Interesting pick for a 6th rounder. We've been clearly honed in on exit velo. I for one am very down for this movement.
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jun 5, 2018 15:18:25 GMT -5
It seems the Red Sox have completely changed their drafting philosophy. All 4 of Casas, Decker, Cottam and Granberg have plus or better raw power. I agree, exit velo seems to be a big part of their scouting process. Just wait when they take JJ Scwarz coming up to add to that stable, too.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 5, 2018 15:21:03 GMT -5
It is an interesting change in drafting philosophy. I was used to the athletes that you hope they hit enough. Now the Sox are drafting guys where you hope the hit tool is alright, but the defense isn't a forte, but the raw power is intriguing. It's kind of where the game has been heading. Granberg sounds like he has a good hit tool, but it's tough to gauge the level of competition he's hitting against. But as pointed out the 4 batter can hit the long ball. And the Sox got themselves a potential high leverage reliever who's really promising. The funny thing is they have yet to get a middle of the infield player nor have they gotten THE starting pitcher who can stick as a starter and eventually impact the big club. Guess if you can't develop them, why draft them? Fascinating draft so far.
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Post by cotuitfan on Jun 5, 2018 15:22:46 GMT -5
Senior, so here’s your below slot guy. Likely saving 230 k on this pick. Nah. He's a top 500 guy. He doesn't have the same leverage but he's not a $10K type. He could've waited until the 10th round and gotten $150K so I'm guessing he goes about there. Some of this savings is going toward Casas and Decker. How can HE wait? Just curious - how can a player tell every team that he is waiting?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 5, 2018 15:24:11 GMT -5
It seems the Red Sox have completely changed their drafting philosophy. All 4 of Casas, Decker, Cottam and Granberg have plus or better raw power. And they're all fairly large. So much for the undervalued 5'8" guys. Exactly. Not the speedy little athletic types.
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Post by taftreign on Jun 5, 2018 15:24:25 GMT -5
It seems the Red Sox have completely changed their drafting philosophy. All 4 of Casas, Decker, Cottam and Granberg have plus or better raw power. Ditto on the exit velocity. I wonder if they still test for the hand-eye coordination which are staples of hitters like Pedroia and Betts.
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jun 5, 2018 15:24:51 GMT -5
Nah. He's a top 500 guy. He doesn't have the same leverage but he's not a $10K type. He could've waited until the 10th round and gotten $150K so I'm guessing he goes about there. Some of this savings is going toward Casas and Decker. How can HE wait? Just curious - how can a player tell every team that he is waiting? Email?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 15:28:34 GMT -5
I just checked this for absolutely no reason whatsoever, but no unsigned Red Sox picks have been drafted yet. Also, it looks like some of the players that are listed as draft eligible in unsigned picks of draft history are not on MLB.com's draft list.
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Post by ramireja on Jun 5, 2018 15:29:51 GMT -5
In terms of the underslot theories, we might be saving up either for Casas/Decker overslot (I hope not, but maybe), or we might be aggressive with tough signs tomorrow in Rounds 11+. Don't be surprised though if there is nothing flashy for the rest of today.....we'll probably only draft guys we're nearly certain we can sign. We can be more aggressive/risky tomorrow so that we don't lose slot money if we fail to sign tough HS picks.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 5, 2018 15:32:50 GMT -5
Cubs take DJ Artis, former Sox pick.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 15:33:37 GMT -5
I just checked this for absolutely no reason whatsoever, but no unsigned Red Sox picks have been drafted yet. Also, it looks like some of the players that are listed as draft eligible in unsigned picks of draft history are not on MLB.com's draft list. Right after I say that, Cubs take Artis.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 5, 2018 15:35:01 GMT -5
Red Sox take Jarren Duran, 2B from Cal State Long Beach.
ADD: they announced him as a CF
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 5, 2018 15:35:25 GMT -5
Duran is 170 on the BA list and 317 on PG.
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 5, 2018 15:37:46 GMT -5
70 grade runner with good on base skills. Doubles power, but could potentially grow into more by tweaking his swing.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 5, 2018 15:40:36 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 5, 2018 15:50:49 GMT -5
Nah. He's a top 500 guy. He doesn't have the same leverage but he's not a $10K type. He could've waited until the 10th round and gotten $150K so I'm guessing he goes about there. Some of this savings is going toward Casas and Decker. How can HE wait? Just curious - how can a player tell every team that he is waiting? Teams contact the players to see how much they will sign for. That's how they can be sure they will afford the above-slot picks.
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