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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 27, 2018 6:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2018 10:19:53 GMT -5
New old arsenal?
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 27, 2018 10:49:11 GMT -5
Isn't the newest a combo?
Meet my new stuff . . . . Same as my old stuff ? ? ?
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 27, 2018 12:48:10 GMT -5
Looks like Nick Duron is rehabbing with the GCL Red Sox today.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jun 27, 2018 14:26:55 GMT -5
4 more chances tonight to break the streak
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2018 15:14:08 GMT -5
Looks like Nick Duron is rehabbing with the GCL Red Sox today. Very restrictive pitch count appears to have made his line misleadingly bad. Faced 4 hitters. Soft lineout back to pitcher, walk, single, strikeout. Jose Bens then made his season debut by walking 3 guys. Good times. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 27, 2018 15:24:59 GMT -5
Kutter Crawford is at Fenway today. We'll have to ask about this. Seems like a new thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 20:19:15 GMT -5
Matt Kent is the newest member of the "I have an inflated ERA because I was kept in too long on my off day" club. At least he didn't get hit as hard as Workman did.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jun 27, 2018 22:20:33 GMT -5
0-5 today.
The streak will be broken on Thursday
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 27, 2018 23:44:04 GMT -5
Thornburg got into the Portland game for 2 innings as planned. According to plans, he'll next travel with the bigs to New York for whatever reason then pitch an inning for Pawtucket Saturday. After that a decision on his immediate future will be made, he has an option which the Sox may not want to burn.
2IP 2H 1ER 0BB 3K 1HRA
27 Pitches/20 Strikes
1GO / 0FO
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 28, 2018 1:26:01 GMT -5
After that a decision on his immediate future will be made, he has an option which the Sox may not want to burn. I don't know, this seems like a perfect season to burn that option. I don't know if his clock sets back his free agent time if stays down until September, but he's been inconsistent. He flashed plus stuff when he first started pitching, but it's been up and down since then. Go trade for a reliever and let Thornburg essentially rehab the whole season. Hopefully he comes back stronger and more consistent next year. |
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 28, 2018 9:27:27 GMT -5
After that a decision on his immediate future will be made, he has an option which the Sox may not want to burn. I don't know, this seems like a perfect season to burn that option. I don't know if his clock sets back his free agent time if stays down until September, but he's been inconsistent. He flashed plus stuff when he first started pitching, but it's been up and down since then. Go trade for a reliever and let Thornburg essentially rehab the whole season. Hopefully he comes back stronger and more consistent next year. Do we know they need to? I'm trying to remember but can't if you can just keep resetting the guy's rehab. |
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 28, 2018 9:40:26 GMT -5
I don't know, this seems like a perfect season to burn that option. I don't know if his clock sets back his free agent time if stays down until September, but he's been inconsistent. He flashed plus stuff when he first started pitching, but it's been up and down since then. Go trade for a reliever and let Thornburg essentially rehab the whole season. Hopefully he comes back stronger and more consistent next year. Do we know they need to? I'm trying to remember but can't if you can just keep resetting the guy's rehab. I would think they could continue putting him on the DL after his rehab is almost over? I mean what would they do if he didn't have options? Someone in his position can't rehab in the majors. |
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 28, 2018 9:47:33 GMT -5
but he's been inconsistent. Every reliever is inconsistent. That's why I get on the whole "people love relievers who they haven't seen yadda yadda" bit. You can't, and shouldn't, just wait around until a reliever is perfect and go crazy wanting to replace him every time he isn't. Thornburg being less than your hopes and dreams isn't a reason to just leave him in Triple-A all season. Thornburg has thrown 68% strikes since restarting his rehab, walking one of the 35 batters he faced. Unless his stuff is significantly diminished then he's a definite upgrade, even if just on the back end of the bullpen. Saiting around all season isn't going to make him perfect next year. If he's healthy, get him back on the roster. If he's not healthy? That's a different issue. |
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 28, 2018 9:55:11 GMT -5
I have no idea where I got this but, it's my understanding that the Sox can rehab again. That would make sense from a player health view. I believe though that it would have to be 30 days which means the Sox can't use him in Boston for that period.
If that's the case, there are several avenues possible and might be part of the reason for his travel to New York, to get his direct input. His career is on the line here. To a large extent, it should be his call.
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Post by iakovos11 on Jun 28, 2018 11:35:06 GMT -5
but he's been inconsistent. Every reliever is inconsistent. That's why I get on the whole "people love relievers who they haven't seen yadda yadda" bit. You can't, and shouldn't, just wait around until a reliever is perfect and go crazy wanting to replace him every time he isn't. Thornburg being less than your hopes and dreams isn't a reason to just leave him in Triple-A all season. Thornburg has thrown 68% strikes since restarting his rehab, walking one of the 35 batters he faced. Unless his stuff is significantly diminished then he's a definite upgrade, even if just on the back end of the bullpen. Saiting around all season isn't going to make him perfect next year. If he's healthy, get him back on the roster. If he's not healthy? That's a different issue. It would be great if Ian or Chaz got a look at him this Saturday. I am curious about his stuff, but agree with you James. His peripherals look good and relievers are going fart every so often, Thornburg is no different. Still, it might not be a bad idea to string it out as long as possible and give him as much time as they can to be sure he's ready to roll. I would assume if he's healthy and stuff is there, they'd like to get him to Boston by mid July or so to get a look at him vs MLB hitter before the deadline. That said, with Buttrey and Lakins sitting there, they'd be dumb to use anything significant to acquire a reliever. And if it's not costing anything significant, then we likely already have better options. |
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