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2018 SOS - thoughts on who the September call ups will be?
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Post by telson13 on Sept 1, 2018 23:17:40 GMT -5
AFL rosters are *stacked* across the board with prospects this year. Gonna be a lot of fun seeing what some of these guys do. No need to DFA Nunez, especially at this point. He is the 3b until Devers gets healthy, and if Devers has more issues than Nunez is really needed. There's now way I'd push Nunez aside to make room for Scott if it were a 40 man roster issue. I just hope that Lakins gets a shot. I would assume Phillips will be arriving too at some point soon. Yeah, I wasn’t really being fair to Nunez either because I’m biased by his early-season performance. He’s actually viable at 3b (not the 2b horror show), and he’s been hot lately. I still prefer Lin but you’re right that the depth he provides, especially with Eovaldi likely going to the ‘pen, is a lot more valuable than another reliever, especially with their swingman depth. I agree very much that Lakins should get a shot; Phillips might have something left, but idk how crucial he is when they have Kinsler/Lin/Nunez (yuck at 2b, but in a pinch), and tbh, Mookie if it came to that (who’s probably as strong out there as Kinsler). Fwiw, I feel really, really good about the bench on this team. It’s championship-caliber. The only real weakness for the postseason, provided Sale and Price come back at full strength, is the bullpen. And I’m not sure it’s really a “weakness,” just the aspect of the team (a likely 105-115 win team, which says a lot about the context of “weakness”) that has the most questions. Kelly has looked a lot better lately, and we know he’s capable of being very good. Barnes had a hiccup but with rest should be excellent again. Kimbrel, even reduced Kimbrel, is still outstanding. So if Pomeranz or Eovaldi can be the dark horse, I’m ok with Hembree-Velasquez-Johnson-Workman to fill things out. I think the eyeball test is a bit misleading when we all realize that the Sox have had a BP in the WAR top 5 until very recently. Also, Mookie for MVP. Seriously. With all due respect to mssrs. Ramirez and Trout, who’ve both had stellar seasons, and mssr. Martinez, a true revelation and a joy to watch hit (not to mention the effect he’s had on the lineup on multiple levels)...Mookie. MVP. He’s THE MAN.
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Post by jimed14 on Sept 2, 2018 9:52:18 GMT -5
No need to DFA Nunez, especially at this point. He is the 3b until Devers gets healthy, and if Devers has more issues than Nunez is really needed. There's now way I'd push Nunez aside to make room for Scott if it were a 40 man roster issue. I just hope that Lakins gets a shot. I would assume Phillips will be arriving too at some point soon. Yeah, I wasn’t really being fair to Nunez either because I’m biased by his early-season performance. He’s actually viable at 3b (not the 2b horror show), and he’s been hot lately. I still prefer Lin but you’re right that the depth he provides, especially with Eovaldi likely going to the ‘pen, is a lot more valuable than another reliever, especially with their swingman depth. I agree very much that Lakins should get a shot; Phillips might have something left, but idk how crucial he is when they have Kinsler/Lin/Nunez (yuck at 2b, but in a pinch), and tbh, Mookie if it came to that (who’s probably as strong out there as Kinsler). Fwiw, I feel really, really good about the bench on this team. It’s championship-caliber. The only real weakness for the postseason, provided Sale and Price come back at full strength, is the bullpen. And I’m not sure it’s really a “weakness,” just the aspect of the team (a likely 105-115 win team, which says a lot about the context of “weakness”) that has the most questions. Kelly has looked a lot better lately, and we know he’s capable of being very good. Barnes had a hiccup but with rest should be excellent again. Kimbrel, even reduced Kimbrel, is still outstanding. So if Pomeranz or Eovaldi can be the dark horse, I’m ok with Hembree-Velasquez-Johnson-Workman to fill things out. I think the eyeball test is a bit misleading when we all realize that the Sox have had a BP in the WAR top 5 until very recently. Also, Mookie for MVP. Seriously. With all due respect to mssrs. Ramirez and Trout, who’ve both had stellar seasons, and mssr. Martinez, a true revelation and a joy to watch hit (not to mention the effect he’s had on the lineup on multiple levels)...Mookie. MVP. He’s THE MAN. I think you forgot Holt. I honestly don't see how Phillips could help this team right now. If we didn't have Kinsler, of course he'd be up.
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Post by soxjim on Sept 2, 2018 23:41:03 GMT -5
No need to DFA Nunez, especially at this point. He is the 3b until Devers gets healthy, and if Devers has more issues than Nunez is really needed. There's now way I'd push Nunez aside to make room for Scott if it were a 40 man roster issue. I just hope that Lakins gets a shot. I would assume Phillips will be arriving too at some point soon. Yeah, I wasn’t really being fair to Nunez either because I’m biased by his early-season performance. He’s actually viable at 3b (not the 2b horror show), and he’s been hot lately. I still prefer Lin but you’re right that the depth he provides, especially with Eovaldi likely going to the ‘pen, is a lot more valuable than another reliever, especially with their swingman depth. telson -- I respect your posts as well as from posters James Dunne, Matt Picard, scottysmalls, rip313 and ericv. I don't know scotty but the rest of you all know more than I - and I've blown off coming on here posting on this subject but it hit a point - I got to ask cuz am confused - got to ask this from you and the others: Lin over Nunez at 3b? Why? Other may consider Lin over Holt. Why? The only thing I can think of is he can run faster -- but how much? Would that be worth it? Because in no way does he look like a basestealer. Is he? He's a good defensive ss or 2b, so what? We have XB and Kinsler. We have two catchers that can't hit and Swihart is possibly a 3rd. Unlike 3b the ss and 2b aren't potential platoon players. Do you think at 3b Lin is an overall better player than Nunez? Or he is better than Holt overall? Are you going to put your season on the lien for a guy that's barely played in the MLB show and rely on him to make pressure plays on defense? I realize he is a good defender btu this is the most important pressure situation -- do you really think it's okay to risk that from a guy who while good isn't "Ozzie SMith." He's not that good to risk this, is he? Frankly, I don't think he's that good of a player though I'm also considering his hitting. He's a "singles-specialist" that hits very few singles. Trusting a guy like Lin over experienced players like Nunez and Holt in the playoffs and Lin's small sample fo stats since he's come up (after his initial hot spurt) has been sub-par hasn't it? DO you really want such an unproven player in the most tense moments of the season?
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Post by telson13 on Sept 3, 2018 0:26:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I wasn’t really being fair to Nunez either because I’m biased by his early-season performance. He’s actually viable at 3b (not the 2b horror show), and he’s been hot lately. I still prefer Lin but you’re right that the depth he provides, especially with Eovaldi likely going to the ‘pen, is a lot more valuable than another reliever, especially with their swingman depth. I agree very much that Lakins should get a shot; Phillips might have something left, but idk how crucial he is when they have Kinsler/Lin/Nunez (yuck at 2b, but in a pinch), and tbh, Mookie if it came to that (who’s probably as strong out there as Kinsler). Fwiw, I feel really, really good about the bench on this team. It’s championship-caliber. The only real weakness for the postseason, provided Sale and Price come back at full strength, is the bullpen. And I’m not sure it’s really a “weakness,” just the aspect of the team (a likely 105-115 win team, which says a lot about the context of “weakness”) that has the most questions. Kelly has looked a lot better lately, and we know he’s capable of being very good. Barnes had a hiccup but with rest should be excellent again. Kimbrel, even reduced Kimbrel, is still outstanding. So if Pomeranz or Eovaldi can be the dark horse, I’m ok with Hembree-Velasquez-Johnson-Workman to fill things out. I think the eyeball test is a bit misleading when we all realize that the Sox have had a BP in the WAR top 5 until very recently. Also, Mookie for MVP. Seriously. With all due respect to mssrs. Ramirez and Trout, who’ve both had stellar seasons, and mssr. Martinez, a true revelation and a joy to watch hit (not to mention the effect he’s had on the lineup on multiple levels)...Mookie. MVP. He’s THE MAN. I think you forgot Holt. I honestly don't see how Phillips could help this team right now. If we didn't have Kinsler, of course he'd be up. Yeah, huge mea culpa Holt completely slipped my mind. And, he’s a solid defensive 2b. Just goes to show how often I speak before thinking, and maybe more...how deep this team is with high-quality depth, even down the 40-man.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 3, 2018 0:55:55 GMT -5
Yeah I was hoping for Lakins like a month ago, but thinking it over it's a 50/50 chance he gets called up for me. The Sox could leave that 40 man spot open for Pedrioa if he is pushing to get back. I think Pedrioa is better than Kinsler if he proves to be healthy before the end of September, but a lot of people will be skeptical that this will happen and it probably won't happen, but Pedrioa keeps coming out and saying that he's trying to get back.
All in all, I think there's a huge chance that they leave the 40 man roster spot open for the rest of September, but there's a small chance that Lakins will be the guy, if there is a guy getting called up. Chavis should get consideration like James mentioned, but I'm not sold that he will get the call. He would be a intriguing bench bat for 3 weeks in September, but the Sox have this division basically wrapped up.
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Post by prangerx on Sept 3, 2018 12:02:19 GMT -5
Well Phillps ended up getting the call and will get the 40 man roster spot.He played well enough to earn the promotion. And even if he does nothing of note, it can't hurt. Sox will look to rest a lot of guys down the stretch any way.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 3, 2018 14:25:15 GMT -5
Phillips and Devers are up next. 40 man is now complete. Lots of bodies to get us through the last of the season.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 3, 2018 16:36:33 GMT -5
RE: Lakins, consider that he hasn't had a real offseason since 2015-16 and that the injuries that ended his last two season were stress injuries. I get treating him with kid gloves here. Let him build the arm/shoulder strength in the offseason.
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 3, 2018 18:59:14 GMT -5
RE: Lakins, consider that he hasn't had a real offseason since 2015-16 and that the injuries that ended his last two season were stress injuries. I get treating him with kid gloves here. Let him build the arm/shoulder strength in the offseason. Speier called that (as more likely than not) in his piece on the bullpen.
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