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Will the Red Sox make a move during the Winter Meetings?
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Post by dmaineah on Dec 8, 2018 19:59:49 GMT -5
I think no but, they lay the ground work for a Sandy Leon trade.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 8, 2018 20:23:12 GMT -5
I think no but, they lay the ground work for a Sandy Leon trade. Lol do you really need to lay ground work on a trade of a backup catcher type?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 8, 2018 20:24:37 GMT -5
I think the Sox will make further moves but there is no real hurry now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 8, 2018 20:24:38 GMT -5
The Eovaldi move was their big move before the winter meetings.
The reliever deals will come after because they naturally take a while.
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Post by bosox on Dec 8, 2018 21:45:45 GMT -5
I think they will sign a reliever and then still go on to sign another reliever this offseason. I don't see the Sox making any trades at the meetings.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 8, 2018 22:13:15 GMT -5
Max Scherzer for Porcello, E-Rod, Nunez, etc. Brought this up at the trade deadline and it didn't happen, but if Harper is really gone then Washington might not be in "win now" mode. Scherzer is owed a lot over the next 3 years, so he might be more of a luxury at this point. I'm not qualified to balance a trade, so fill in the prospect blanks as necessary. Nunez is in there to balance some money out. Down side is this would more or less guarantee no Sale extension, but if the organization already knows that's not going to happen then why not? Also, we'd blow way past the upper tax limit this year, but I'd rather go way past than go over by $100k (or whatever minuscule amount it was) like we did last year. This would create a bit of a hole at #5 starter, but that can be fixed fairly easily this time of year or just go with what you have when 1-4 is that stacked. The Nationals just spent 140 million on Corbin. They are still in win now mode.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 8, 2018 22:14:59 GMT -5
Winter Meetings usually happen on the first week of December. I wonder why it was on the second week this year?
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Post by unitspin on Dec 8, 2018 22:17:56 GMT -5
Max Scherzer for Porcello, E-Rod, Nunez, etc. Brought this up at the trade deadline and it didn't happen, but if Harper is really gone then Washington might not be in "win now" mode. Scherzer is owed a lot over the next 3 years, so he might be more of a luxury at this point. I'm not qualified to balance a trade, so fill in the prospect blanks as necessary. Nunez is in there to balance some money out. Down side is this would more or less guarantee no Sale extension, but if the organization already knows that's not going to happen then why not? Also, we'd blow way past the upper tax limit this year, but I'd rather go way past than go over by $100k (or whatever minuscule amount it was) like we did last year. This would create a bit of a hole at #5 starter, but that can be fixed fairly easily this time of year or just go with what you have when 1-4 is that stacked. Washington just signed Corbin.
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Post by telson13 on Dec 8, 2018 22:46:58 GMT -5
Max Scherzer for Porcello, E-Rod, Nunez, etc. Brought this up at the trade deadline and it didn't happen, but if Harper is really gone then Washington might not be in "win now" mode. Scherzer is owed a lot over the next 3 years, so he might be more of a luxury at this point. I'm not qualified to balance a trade, so fill in the prospect blanks as necessary. Nunez is in there to balance some money out. Down side is this would more or less guarantee no Sale extension, but if the organization already knows that's not going to happen then why not? Also, we'd blow way past the upper tax limit this year, but I'd rather go way past than go over by $100k (or whatever minuscule amount it was) like we did last year. This would create a bit of a hole at #5 starter, but that can be fixed fairly easily this time of year or just go with what you have when 1-4 is that stacked. The Nats just signed Corbin to a huge deal. They are absolutely in win-now. Corbin’s basically an upgrade on Gio Gonzalez. They also have money to spend and Strasburg, Soto, Robles, Turner, Rendon, etc. They have a great young core and Scherzer is a perennial Cy contender. My guess is that he finishes his career there. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love him on the Sox, but the Nats wouldn’t trade him without getting a major (top-25) prospect back in addition to Rodriguez, who has two years left, but who will have escalating salary/reduced excess value with time. Even on his $30M AAV, Scherzer’s returning $20M+ in excess value annually (7 WAR last year, at $9M per win, is $63M-$30M=$33M in excess). He projects for about 5 WAR, and that will drop with time...but still, they can get more for him and not need to take on $ like Nunez.
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Post by bosox on Dec 9, 2018 0:14:25 GMT -5
Yeah mostly just wishful thinking on my part, and I guess the Corbin signing hasn't completely sunk in for me either. The most likely thing to happen is "some reliever or nothing" but that's boring. I might have said Greinke, but we're on his no trade list and I don't like him nearly as much. I agree that the remainder of the offseason will most likely be boring. I usually love this time of year and the anticipation of who the Sox will either sign or acquire via trade. However, this year I won't mind a boring offseason given the historic 2018 team and its World Championship.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 9, 2018 2:02:51 GMT -5
I don't anticipate the Sox making any moves during the winter meetings. They're waiting on Kimbrel to set the relief pitcher market going elsewhere (either Philly or St. Louis I'd guess - with Philly being the most likely destination in my opinion).
Once that happens things will get sorted out. I don't anticipate that Kimbrel is going to sign during the meetings.
I don't even anticipate that Harper will sign with the Phillies and Machado will sign with the Yankees during the meetings. That probably gets dragged out.
I think Realmuto gets dealt during the meetings and I think Greinke winds up getting dealt during the meetings. Other than that I think the meetings will be dull. Other than DiPoto making a bunch of trades because he's Jerry DiPoto.
The relief pitcher market will drag into January before Kelly returns and the Sox add another reliever which might wind up being Herrera.
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Post by wildsox on Dec 9, 2018 4:45:17 GMT -5
Maybe not during the meetings but I have to think the Sox do something about Blake Swihart. They can’t have him in the same role as last season
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 9, 2018 8:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by telson13 on Dec 9, 2018 22:09:03 GMT -5
The Nats just signed Corbin to a huge deal. They are absolutely in win-now. Corbin’s basically an upgrade on Gio Gonzalez. They also have money to spend and Strasburg, Soto, Robles, Turner, Rendon, etc. They have a great young core and Scherzer is a perennial Cy contender. My guess is that he finishes his career there. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love him on the Sox, but the Nats wouldn’t trade him without getting a major (top-25) prospect back in addition to Rodriguez, who has two years left, but who will have escalating salary/reduced excess value with time. Even on his $30M AAV, Scherzer’s returning $20M+ in excess value annually (7 WAR last year, at $9M per win, is $63M-$30M=$33M in excess). He projects for about 5 WAR, and that will drop with time...but still, they can get more for him and not need to take on $ like Nunez. Yeah mostly just wishful thinking on my part, and I guess the Corbin signing hasn't completely sunk in for me either. The most likely thing to happen is "some reliever or nothing" but that's boring. I might have said Greinke, but we're on his no trade list and I don't like him nearly as much. I really wanted them to sign Scherzer and let Lester go. I never could’ve predicted this tho. He’s just a beast. Plus, the heterochromia is cool AF.
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Post by Addam603 on Dec 10, 2018 13:24:27 GMT -5
Robby Scott was traded to the Reds. No news what is coming back this way.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 10, 2018 13:27:50 GMT -5
Robby Scott was traded to the Reds. No news what is coming back this way. I'll assume it wasn't Scooter Gennett
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 10, 2018 13:38:08 GMT -5
Apparently the Sox got an open 40 man roster spot for Robby Scott, who according to what I read on mlbtraderumors.com was actually not traded, but rather claimed by the Reds.
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Post by iakovos11 on Dec 10, 2018 13:40:56 GMT -5
Apparently the Sox got an open 40 man roster spot for Robby Scott, who according to what I read on mlbtraderumors.com was actually not traded, but rather claimed by the Reds. So, no Scooter Gennett, then?
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Post by Addam603 on Dec 10, 2018 13:42:37 GMT -5
Apparently the Sox got an open 40 man roster spot for Robby Scott, who according to what I read on mlbtraderumors.com was actually not traded, but rather claimed by the Reds. So, no Scooter Gennett, then? Or Joey Votto?
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Post by mobaz on Dec 10, 2018 13:55:43 GMT -5
Sounds like a Rule 5 target is opening up, I'd guess. Maybe a trade is already set.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 10, 2018 14:06:29 GMT -5
I have to say that I'm kind of glad he's gone. Despite his good numbers at AAA, I had zero faith in him. First, I cannot stand LOOGYs. I prefer good pitchers. And second, if you're going to be a LOOGY, don't freaking walk any LHB. If you do, you're worthless to me.
Also, I think he was/would be suffering from familiarity with his funky delivery. The more guys saw him, the easier it was going to be to hit a 85 mph fastball.
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Post by soxfan50 on Dec 10, 2018 14:07:19 GMT -5
Sounds like a Rule 5 target is opening up, I'd guess. Maybe a trade is already set. Perhaps they are about to sign another BP arm?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 10, 2018 14:44:32 GMT -5
Apparently the Sox got an open 40 man roster spot for Robby Scott, who according to what I read on mlbtraderumors.com was actually not traded, but rather claimed by the Reds. So, no Scooter Gennett, then? Shockingly no
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 12, 2018 18:43:50 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Dec 12, 2018 18:47:30 GMT -5
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