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Post by dmaineah on Jan 14, 2019 14:49:25 GMT -5
Should the Sox extend Dombrowski? Is he the right guy to make decisions on who to sign, to extend, to trade, to let walk, to draft? Is he the right guy to run the organization going forward? Or has he done the job he was brought here to do (win a world series) and someone else is needed to guide the organizations future?
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 14, 2019 16:23:29 GMT -5
It really depends on what the plans are. I think he could adjust to whatever shift the team needs to take. And the team will need to adjust without a lot of help in the immediate future coming from prospect additions to the 25 man roster. As of now, they won't have a decent option to replace JBJ. Putting Benintendi in CF is not an option in my strong opinion. They will need another CF if JBJ leaves. They have a downgrade in Lin to replace Xander, but I don't know if they're willing to go that way. Lin is probably best served replacing Holt as the super utility guy. And they have nothing to replace Sale with. So if any of them leave, there will be work to do. If all of them leave, it will leave massive holes that I'm not super thrilled with having to fill through free agency. They won't have the prospects to make major trades and even if they did, they really have to focus on improving the farm system, not further depleting it. We also don't know what their strategy will be in resetting the luxury tax. As a business and baseball decision, extending Mookie is the #1 priority above all else. But would he want to stick around for a rebuilding year or two right after he's signed?
I'm just rambling now, because I really have no idea what they're going to do and I don't know if Dombrowski wants to stick around after doing the job he was hired to do. For him, the goal was always a championship between 2017-2019. He has one and is now going for two. Seems like a good way to go out if he's interested in retirement, but I don't know him.
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 14, 2019 16:43:59 GMT -5
It really depends on what the plans are. I think he could adjust to whatever shift the team needs to take. And the team will need to adjust without a lot of help in the immediate future coming from prospect additions to the 25 man roster. As of now, they won't have a decent option to replace JBJ. Putting Benintendi in CF is not an option in my strong opinion. They will need another CF if JBJ leaves. They have a downgrade in Lin to replace Xander, but I don't know if they're willing to go that way. Lin is probably best served replacing Holt as the super utility guy. And they have nothing to replace Sale with. So if any of them leave, there will be work to do. If all of them leave, it will leave massive holes that I'm not super thrilled with having to fill through free agency. They won't have the prospects to make major trades and even if they did, they really have to focus on improving the farm system, not further depleting it. We also don't know what their strategy will be in resetting the luxury tax. As a business and baseball decision, extending Mookie is the #1 priority above all else. But would he want to stick around for a rebuilding year or two right after he's signed? So is he the right guy to be in charge considering everything you've listed here? Is he the guy you want to be making these & other decisions? |
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Post by ematz1423 on Jan 14, 2019 16:56:14 GMT -5
The Red Sox just won the most games in franchise history to go along with that world series trophy. I know a lot of the roster weren't players that he was responsible for but my answer would be yes he is a guy that I trust to run this franchise for the time being, whether that is just a couple more years until he retires or 5+ years I am okay with him as the leader of the front office. He seems to have the ability to pick and choose the right guys to deal and the right guys to hold on to and I am cautiously optimistic that the farm is on the rise. Things could look drastically different after the next two offseasons perhaps disastrously so, if that happens then this question should be revisited.
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 14, 2019 17:21:45 GMT -5
It really depends on what the plans are. I think he could adjust to whatever shift the team needs to take. And the team will need to adjust without a lot of help in the immediate future coming from prospect additions to the 25 man roster. As of now, they won't have a decent option to replace JBJ. Putting Benintendi in CF is not an option in my strong opinion. They will need another CF if JBJ leaves. They have a downgrade in Lin to replace Xander, but I don't know if they're willing to go that way. Lin is probably best served replacing Holt as the super utility guy. And they have nothing to replace Sale with. So if any of them leave, there will be work to do. If all of them leave, it will leave massive holes that I'm not super thrilled with having to fill through free agency. They won't have the prospects to make major trades and even if they did, they really have to focus on improving the farm system, not further depleting it. We also don't know what their strategy will be in resetting the luxury tax. As a business and baseball decision, extending Mookie is the #1 priority above all else. But would he want to stick around for a rebuilding year or two right after he's signed? So is he the right guy to be in charge considering everything you've listed here? Is he the guy you want to be making these & other decisions? Sure, if he wants to do it. But I kind of have to know what John Henry's goals are before deciding for sure. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 14, 2019 17:23:31 GMT -5
It really depends on what the plans are. I think he could adjust to whatever shift the team needs to take. And the team will need to adjust without a lot of help in the immediate future coming from prospect additions to the 25 man roster. As of now, they won't have a decent option to replace JBJ. Putting Benintendi in CF is not an option in my strong opinion. They will need another CF if JBJ leaves. They have a downgrade in Lin to replace Xander, but I don't know if they're willing to go that way. Lin is probably best served replacing Holt as the super utility guy. And they have nothing to replace Sale with. So if any of them leave, there will be work to do. If all of them leave, it will leave massive holes that I'm not super thrilled with having to fill through free agency. They won't have the prospects to make major trades and even if they did, they really have to focus on improving the farm system, not further depleting it. We also don't know what their strategy will be in resetting the luxury tax. As a business and baseball decision, extending Mookie is the #1 priority above all else. But would he want to stick around for a rebuilding year or two right after he's signed? So is he the right guy to be in charge considering everything you've listed here? Is he the guy you want to be making these & other decisions? Why wouldn't he be? He worked for the Expos in the late 80s and laid the groundwork for what would become one of the best Expos teams of all-time, the unfortunate 1994 edition that never got a chance because of the season ending strike and was ripped apart soon thereafter? Then five seconds after the 1997 Marlins, another team he had a hand in building, was ordered burned down to the ground by their owner Wayne Huizenga, Dombrowski made deals for young kids that got them in position to win their 2003 championship. He knows how to build a team from the ground up so I don't know why he wouldn't be somebody who could be looked at as somebody who was capable of doing so. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 14, 2019 17:47:25 GMT -5
He'll retire before he gets another extension, I think. Dombrowski has been doing this for over 30 years now. I imagine the road is coming to a end soon with his career, or at least it should be if he wants to enjoy retirement.
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Post by gerry on Jan 15, 2019 4:16:44 GMT -5
He'll retire before he gets another extension, I think. Dombrowski has been doing this for over 30 years now. I imagine the road is coming to a end soon with his career, or at least it should be if he wants to enjoy retirement. Retirement is highly overrated, especially after becoming proficient at what you enjoy. I have.worked extensively with young 75 year olds and old 55 year olds. The difference seems to be how much they enjoy what they do and who they do it with. DDo is not old, is at the top of his game, his family is set and enjoy the game too, and he seems to be fully and happily engaged in a true dream job. Why would he retire to be less involved, less challenged, less influential, and enjoy fewer perqs of living well. And, according to Speier, John Henry has already talked extension. I, for one, am looking forward to how he finesses re-signing the core while adding to the Farm and re-setting in 2020 while shooting for a 5th straight ALE championship. At this juncture, there is no one I would trust more to accomplish this. |
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jan 15, 2019 5:45:12 GMT -5
He'll retire before he gets another extension, I think. Dombrowski has been doing this for over 30 years now. I imagine the road is coming to a end soon with his career, or at least it should be if he wants to enjoy retirement. Retirement is highly overrated, especially after becoming proficient at what you enjoy. I have.worked extensively with young 75 year olds and old 55 year olds. The difference seems to be how much they enjoy what they do and who they do it with. DDo is not old, is at the top of his game, his family is set and enjoy the game too, and he seems to be fully and happily engaged in a true dream job. Why would he retire to be less involved, less challenged, less influential, and enjoy fewer perqs of living well. And, according to Speier, John Henry has already talked extension. I, for one, am looking forward to how he finesses re-signing the core while adding to the Farm and re-setting in 2020 while shooting for a 5th straight ALE championship. At this juncture, there is no one I would trust more to accomplish this. We will see Gerry. You have to figure that Dombrowski has made well over 10 million dollars in the last 10 years alone, if not a lot more than that in his time in Boston and Detroit. Him and his wife would probably be well suited off if he retired by the end of his contract in the end of 2020. Either way, you will get to see him construct the team for the long term. Big decisions like Mookie, Sale, and Xander are due in the time he's still here. I like to see what he does here too. I want to see how creative he gets and I hope he gets the job done and keeps all of these players. Maybe he can retain a few more players like Benintendi and Devers to long contracts along the way also. I myself can't wait for retirement and I got about 30-35 years to go lol. I'd go find something else to enjoy, like a hobby once I'm done working. There's a ton of new technology coming out in the future that I love to look into. So that's my personal opinion about retirement. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 15, 2019 6:29:11 GMT -5
For those who've not listened to it, the most recent podcast covers this issue and much, much more. Just a wide range of prospect topics with dozens of players discussed. Really outstanding, so listen to it if you have a chance.
Speier's take? Dombrowski isn't going anywhere for a while given the amount of fun he's having.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jan 15, 2019 7:48:31 GMT -5
For those who've not listened to it, the most recent podcast covers this issue and much, much more. Just a wide range of prospect topics with dozens of players discussed. Really outstanding, so listen to it if you have a chance. Speier's take? Dombrowski isn't going anywhere for a while given the amount of fun he's having. Was just about to add this. While he's on the older side for current GMs, Alex saw no reason to think he's going to retire at the end of this current contract, assuming the Red Sox will have him. I can't imagine they wouldn't. |
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 15, 2019 10:30:47 GMT -5
For those who've not listened to it, the most recent podcast covers this issue and much, much more. Just a wide range of prospect topics with dozens of players discussed. Really outstanding, so listen to it if you have a chance. Speier's take? Dombrowski isn't going anywhere for a while given the amount of fun he's having. Was just about to add this. While he's on the older side for current GMs, Alex saw no reason to think he's going to retire at the end of this current contract, assuming the Red Sox will have him. I can't imagine they wouldn't. The question isn't what is Speier's take or will the Red Sox have him. It's, do YOU think he is the right guy & want to extend him to do the job going forward? |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 15, 2019 10:51:29 GMT -5
Was just about to add this. While he's on the older side for current GMs, Alex saw no reason to think he's going to retire at the end of this current contract, assuming the Red Sox will have him. I can't imagine they wouldn't. The question isn't what is Speier's take or will the Red Sox have him. It's, do YOU think he is the right guy & want to extend him to do the job going forward? My question to you is why would you imply he's not? Based on what? |
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 15, 2019 10:54:26 GMT -5
The question isn't what is Speier's take or will the Red Sox have him. It's, do YOU think he is the right guy & want to extend him to do the job going forward? My question to you is why would you imply he's not? Based on what? I haven't implied anything |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 15, 2019 11:18:34 GMT -5
My question to you is why would you imply he's not? Based on what? I haven't implied anything Just surprised it's even a question. At this stage of his career Dombrowski has done it all, from rebuilding ground up to trying to put a team over the threshold of a championship. |
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 15, 2019 12:04:05 GMT -5
I had asked the question rhetorically in another thread, given his age and the outstanding team he has. Speier, who knows a hell of a lot more than I do answered it for me.
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