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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 19, 2019 15:21:21 GMT -5
Just like how the Red Sox are secretly having a phenomenal season because they were able to beat the worst teams in baseball.
I can't wait till the Red Sox can beat up on Toronto and Detroit so we can go back to thinking they're awesome again, until, you know, they play a decent team.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 19, 2019 15:32:19 GMT -5
It's just obvious trolling now.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 19, 2019 15:34:15 GMT -5
It's just obvious trolling now. Not at all. I think it's funny how you think a win against Baltimore is just as meaningful as NY. I understand that you're not going to win every series and beating .500 teams are hard, but you know, win one. You're the one who decided to pollute another thread when literally all I was doing was remarking on an accomplishment from another team. That's an atypical number against winning teams. They've been crushing it and their season has been tremendous thus far.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 19, 2019 15:42:31 GMT -5
I feel that if the Red Sox are playing their best ball they can beat just about any team if those good teams aren't playing their A game. Can't say that's been the case against the good teams this year. Don't really think they have played their best ball against these teams, at least not yet anyways.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 19, 2019 15:54:47 GMT -5
Rays schedule looks to be rather rough so WC1 could potentially be at play. After losing 3 straight to the Yankees the Rays will need to face the following: 4 @ Oakland 3 @ Minnesota 3 vs Texas 3 vs Baltimore 4 vs Yankees 4 @ Baltimore 4 @ Yankees 3 vs White Sox (if still in the hunt) 3 vs Boston 3 @ Toronto 3 @ Boston
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Post by a2sox on Jun 19, 2019 15:56:09 GMT -5
redsoxfan2, I thought your idea for a 'the math of the red sox' thread was a good idea. Consistent updates on playoff odds, etc. Useful. Man oh man, for some reason you have decided to entrench yourself in this doom and gloom narrative. If you're just perpetuating it because you've dug yourself so deep that you feel you need to stay committed to that viewpoint, we are all offering you a chance to come up to the surface. Join the light. It's nice up here!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 19, 2019 16:03:03 GMT -5
redsoxfan2, I thought your idea for a 'the math of the red sox' thread was a good idea. Consistent updates on playoff odds, etc. Useful. Man oh man, for some reason you have decided to entrench yourself in this doom and gloom narrative. If you're just perpetuating it because you've dug yourself so deep that you feel you need to stay committed to that viewpoint, we are all offering you a chance to come up to the surface. Join the light. It's nice up here! I, unfortunately, gave an opinion which has lead to a hell storm ever since. The idea wasn't to be doom and gloom, not really, but to emphasize the importance of winning early and how that effects their team moving forward and what they need to accomplish in order to get out of said hole along with playoff odds and percentages. I can update it more frequently. I didn't update it not because they won 6 games, but rather I'm lazy and wanted to wait a couple series instead of calculating it out. I fully intended to update it even if the Sox swept or got swept by Minnesota.
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Post by Smittyw on Jun 19, 2019 17:24:31 GMT -5
I really really enjoy watching Osuna blowing saves! I can watch that all day. The Astros got swept by the Reds. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
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Post by incandenza on Jun 20, 2019 0:01:18 GMT -5
I really really enjoy watching Osuna blowing saves! I can watch that all day. The Astros got swept by the Reds. And since the Reds are under .500, it doesn't count. If the Reds now swept the Orioles in a 4 game series, that will completely change the Astros season because they'd be much less likely to win because of the extra losses vs teams over .500. Haha. You know, this raises a good point - if a team's quality is determined by how well they play against teams above .500, then really what we should care most about is how teams play against teams that play well against teams that are above .500. Of course, the truly elite teams will play well even against the teams that play well against teams that play well against teams that are above .500.
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 20, 2019 0:44:32 GMT -5
I thought a win was a win no matter what record your opponent had? And the object of the regular season was simply to do that (win) more than any other team?
I wasn't aware that you got extra points in the standings for beating good teams. If that's the case, we should call up the Pawtucket team to play the ORIOLES and Marlins. That way we can rest our Mlb players and save them for the Yankees and Astros.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 20, 2019 12:42:54 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 20, 2019 12:48:50 GMT -5
Wow, that's weird. I don't think that's happened in baseball since 1877? I think that's when my local Hartford Dark Blues played some in Brooklyn? Why not just move the team to Montreal? It would be great for that city to have major league baseball again. I'm guessing they're trying to test the waters for a move? But what a weird concept. Spend the springs and early summer in Tampa and then go north to Montreal to finish out the season? So there would be no more playoff baseball in Tampa??
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Post by mobaz on Jun 20, 2019 12:49:20 GMT -5
My goodness, that's huge and amazing. Love outside the box ideas. Love bringing Montreal back into the fray, hate the idea of expansion. If/when they make the playoffs, not nearly as fun for one of the fan bases.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 20, 2019 12:55:56 GMT -5
Kiley's take makes a lot of sense.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 20, 2019 12:56:39 GMT -5
I'm sure Bill Lee and Pedro Martinez are smiling at the prospect of major league baseball returning to Montreal. Pedro made it a point to the people of Montreal to celebrate in the Red Sox 2004 World Series victory the night the Sox won the 2004 World Series, as the people of Montreal had just lost the Expos earlier that month in the move to DC.
I read that it would take a few years, but I really hope they move the Rays to Montreal and rename them the Expos and given them those old swirling uniforms they used to have!
It would be weird that both Canadian teams would be in the same league in the same division rather than when Montreal was in the NL East. They could always swap the old Expos - Washington Nationals and the new Expos into the opposite leagues if they wanted to.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 20, 2019 13:01:35 GMT -5
It would be weird that both Canadian teams would be in the same league in the same division rather than when Montreal was in the NL East. They could always swap the old Expos - Washington Nationals and the new Expos into the opposite leagues if they wanted to. Not weird at all- in fact, I'd say it's much more sensible. Montreal makes an obvious natural rival with Toronto, and Yankee and Red Sox fans travel well and Montreal is really close. There was a lot of talk that it made sense to move the Expos to the AL and put the Rays in the NL when Tampa was awarded the expansion back in the '90s.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 20, 2019 13:04:03 GMT -5
It would be weird that both Canadian teams would be in the same league in the same division rather than when Montreal was in the NL East. They could always swap the old Expos - Washington Nationals and the new Expos into the opposite leagues if they wanted to. Not weird at all- in fact, I'd say it's much more sensible. Montreal makes an obvious natural rival with Toronto, and Yankee and Red Sox fans travel well and Montreal is really close. There was a lot of talk that it made sense to move the Expos to the AL and put the Rays in the NL when Tampa was awarded the expansion back in the '90s. Yeah, it's not like when the Raptors and Grizzlies entered the NBA and were at least on different sides of the continent. But I see the point. Get the stars and top teams from each league up there, you can still have them play in interleague, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2019 13:05:53 GMT -5
Wow, that's weird. I don't think that's happened in baseball since 1877? I think that's when my local Hartford Dark Blues played some in Brooklyn? Why not just move the team to Montreal? It would be great for that city to have major league baseball again. I'm guessing they're trying to test the waters for a move? But what a weird concept. Spend the springs and early summer in Tampa and then go north to Montreal to finish out the season? So there would be no more playoff baseball in Tampa?? Maybe they're hoping to expand their fanbase?
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Post by sarcasmo on Jun 20, 2019 13:18:35 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 20, 2019 13:38:52 GMT -5
It would be weird that both Canadian teams would be in the same league in the same division rather than when Montreal was in the NL East. They could always swap the old Expos - Washington Nationals and the new Expos into the opposite leagues if they wanted to. Not weird at all- in fact, I'd say it's much more sensible. Montreal makes an obvious natural rival with Toronto, and Yankee and Red Sox fans travel well and Montreal is really close. There was a lot of talk that it made sense to move the Expos to the AL and put the Rays in the NL when Tampa was awarded the expansion back in the '90s. It makes sense. It's just that I'd think that both leagues would want a Canadian team in their league which is why I suspect the Blue Jays got the American League when Toronto was awarded a franchise for the 1977 season while the Expos were in the NL. From a divisional rivalry standpoint it makes sense, but it also makes sense to have Baltimore and the Nats in the same division as well from that perspective, too. Of course, for a rivalry, that assumes a functional Orioles team, which one day at some point they should be.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 20, 2019 14:38:53 GMT -5
My goodness, that's huge and amazing. Love outside the box ideas. Love bringing Montreal back into the fray, hate the idea of expansion. If/when they make the playoffs, not nearly as fun for one of the fan bases. I'd just love to know why either city is going to pay for a full-price stadium for a part-time team. This would have to totally kill the Tampa stadium financing.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Jun 20, 2019 16:13:41 GMT -5
I'd love to have the Rays move to Montreal. Not only the Montreal/Toronto rivalry, but the convenience relative to Boston and NY, and we can eliminate that damn cowbell.
That and we can either call the team the Expos, or the lesser popular "Eh's" or "Ex-Rays"
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 20, 2019 16:15:33 GMT -5
I'd love to have the Rays move to Montreal. Not only the Montreal/Toronto rivalry, but the convenience relative to Boston and NY, and we can eliminate that damn cowbell. That and we can either call the team the Expos, or the lesser popular "Eh's" or "Ex-Rays" Ex-Rays. Damn that's good. Wish I had thought of that!
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 20, 2019 17:31:54 GMT -5
I'd love to have the Rays move to Montreal. Not only the Montreal/Toronto rivalry, but the convenience relative to Boston and NY, and we can eliminate that damn cowbell. That and we can either call the team the Expos, or the lesser popular "Eh's" or "Ex-Rays" I went to Montreal recently and asked a few people at random about baseball and they didn't seem to want it. Is there a market for the Expos to return or is it just moving an empty stadium to Canada? To me, the rivalry between Toronto and Montreal feels like it'd be akin to Marlins and Rays.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jun 20, 2019 17:38:28 GMT -5
I'd love to have the Rays move to Montreal. Not only the Montreal/Toronto rivalry, but the convenience relative to Boston and NY, and we can eliminate that damn cowbell. That and we can either call the team the Expos, or the lesser popular "Eh's" or "Ex-Rays" I went to Montreal recently and asked a few people at random about baseball and they didn't seem to want it. Is there a market for the Expos to return or is it just moving an empty stadium to Canada? To me, the rivalry between Toronto and Montreal feels like it'd be akin to Marlins and Rays. There is probably more than 1 reason to want to do it, but i don't see how MLB can let this Tampa thing go on like this. It is bad for the club and baseball to have such a good team that nobody goes to see live or on TV.
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