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2019 Draft Signing Period
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Post by ryan24 on Jun 20, 2019 5:48:13 GMT -5
From what you all know NOW, would you say that this draft builds on last year's solid draft? Will the 2 ss's stay at short or move? Kind of looks like we are stockpiling infielders. Thought we would look at stockpiling catchers. How close are we to being a top 10 farm system?
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Post by Addam603 on Jun 20, 2019 5:52:45 GMT -5
From what you all know NOW, would you say that this draft builds on last year's solid draft? Will the 2 ss's stay at short or move? Kind of looks like we are stockpiling infielders. Thought we would look at stockpiling catchers. How close are we to being a top 10 farm system? Far, far away.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 20, 2019 9:02:30 GMT -5
From what you all know NOW, would you say that this draft builds on last year's solid draft? Will the 2 ss's stay at short or move? Kind of looks like we are stockpiling infielders. Thought we would look at stockpiling catchers. How close are we to being a top 10 farm system? Far, far away. Yeah, about 15-20 teams away.
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Post by brendan98 on Jun 20, 2019 9:17:15 GMT -5
Yeah, about 15-20 teams away. I'd agree that the Sox system is probably bottom 1/3 in baseball, however the upside is that the 20 yo and under talent looks to be the strength of the system, and when considering the youth and depth at the MLB level the Sox currently have, that is probably the best place for the farm system to be strongest. Casas, Groome, Flores, Mata, Howlett, Decker, Diaz, Jimenez, Northcut, Bello all top 20 on this site, all under the age of 20, and a fresh crop of draft picks and international signings coming in to the system shortly.
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Post by jimed14 on Jun 20, 2019 9:25:58 GMT -5
Yeah, about 15-20 teams away. I'd agree that the Sox system is probably bottom 1/3 in baseball, however the upside is that the 20 yo and under talent looks to be the strength of the system, and when considering the youth and depth at the MLB level the Sox currently have, that is probably the best place for the farm system to be strongest. Casas, Groome, Flores, Mata, Howlett, Decker, Diaz, Jimenez, Northcut, Bello all top 20 on this site, all under the age of 20, and a fresh crop of draft picks and international signings coming in to the system shortly. I find it best to compare the farm system against itself because I don't really follow all other 29 teams in the majors. It certainly has gotten better in the last 2 years. But I never find the comments about how improved the farm system is after a draft to be very meaningful because of course it is improved. And so are all the other 29 teams. And they'll all get a fresh crop of international signings too. I really liked the last 2 drafts, but we still have to wait and see if the Red Sox drafts and signings are significantly better than other teams, because that's the only way their system rises. Plus the Red Sox are still in buy mode, not accumulate prospects mode so expect another hit or two this summer.
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Post by brendan98 on Jun 20, 2019 9:37:11 GMT -5
I'd agree that the Sox system is probably bottom 1/3 in baseball, however the upside is that the 20 yo and under talent looks to be the strength of the system, and when considering the youth and depth at the MLB level the Sox currently have, that is probably the best place for the farm system to be strongest. Casas, Groome, Flores, Mata, Howlett, Decker, Diaz, Jimenez, Northcut, Bello all top 20 on this site, all under the age of 20, and a fresh crop of draft picks and international signings coming in to the system shortly. I find it best to compare the farm system against itself because I don't really follow all other 29 teams in the majors. It certainly has gotten better in the last 2 years. But I never find the comments about how improved the farm system is after a draft to be very meaningful because of course it is improved. And so are all the other 29 teams. And they'll all get a fresh crop of international signings too. I really liked the last 2 drafts, but we still have to wait and see if the Red Sox drafts and signings are significantly better than other teams, because that's the only way their system rises. Plus the Red Sox are still in buy mode, not accumulate prospects mode so expect another hit or two this summer. I agree with this, but where I think the Sox will improve in comparison to other teams farm systems is: Rankings seem to (and probably rightfully so) put more stock in guys that are closer to MLB, that have a little more certainty in projecting them as a big league player. A lot of the teams in front of the Sox in the rankings, are there because they have more potentially impactful players that are getting close to the big leagues (kind of like the Sox were a few years ago). As these players graduate to the MLB, or flame out in the upper levels over the next couple of years, Casas, Groome, Mata, Flores, etc… are going to be moving up to A, Hi A, and AA, some of them will take a step back, but others will go from being prospects with good tools but a lot of development ahead, to big time prospects getting close to the big leagues. I agree that prospects from other teams will also be matriculating through their systems, but it seems to me that the Sox have an unusually high amount of 20 yo and under impact type prospects right now.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 20, 2019 11:03:16 GMT -5
Yeah, about 15-20 teams away. I'd agree that the Sox system is probably bottom 1/3 in baseball, however the upside is that the 20 yo and under talent looks to be the strength of the system, and when considering the youth and depth at the MLB level the Sox currently have, that is probably the best place for the farm system to be strongest. Casas, Groome, Flores, Mata, Howlett, Decker, Diaz, Jimenez, Northcut, Bello all top 20 on this site, all under the age of 20, and a fresh crop of draft picks and international signings coming in to the system shortly. There's definitely a good chance the system moves up in the rankings once all the under-20 talent develops a little more and some of the better farms graduate their guys but that's at least two years away and requires this front office to continue to make good decisions so it's probably best to just not think about where we stand in relation to other teams and just worry about how the players in this farm system are going to effect the big league team and on what timeline.
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Post by soxin8 on Jun 20, 2019 12:35:31 GMT -5
The Sox were in a difficult situation with draft allotment this year to gain ground on other teams. But I am encouraged when I hear someone like Jim Callis single out the Sox for having a very good first five rounds.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 20, 2019 12:45:30 GMT -5
Remember that this is a draft signings thread. Let's try to keep to that topic.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 20, 2019 13:31:35 GMT -5
MLB Draft Tracker added a bunch of bonuses:
Alex Erro: $125,000 Jake Herbert: $125,000 Joe Davis: $5,000 Dylan Spacke: $75,000 Dom D'Alessandro: $10,000 Dean Miller: $5,000 Brandon Walter: $35,000 Devon Roedahl: $25,000 Luke Bandy: $75,000
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 20, 2019 14:26:51 GMT -5
Daniel Bakst posted another picture on Instagram of him signing his contract with the Red Sox.
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Post by soxinnj on Jun 20, 2019 15:11:57 GMT -5
Song had said in that article that he wanted to sign this week, right? Anybody have any info on that? Or Scroggins?
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Post by ramireja on Jun 20, 2019 15:30:33 GMT -5
Daniel Bakst posted another picture on Instagram of him signing his contract with the Red Sox. Thats huge. I hope people are paying attention to this pick, it has the potential to be a real late round steal. Very excited to welcome Bakst into the system!
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 20, 2019 15:40:14 GMT -5
MLB Draft Tracker added a bunch of bonuses: Alex Erro: $125,000 Jake Herbert: $125,000 Joe Davis: $5,000 Dylan Spacke: $75,000 Dom D'Alessandro: $10,000 Dean Miller: $5,000 Brandon Walter: $35,000 Devon Roedahl: $25,000 Luke Bandy: $75,000 Erro getting 125K is interesting. Guess it doesn't really matter if it doesn't go over the cap, but you generally don't see many college guys get the full 125K IIRC.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 20, 2019 16:02:40 GMT -5
MLB Draft Tracker added a bunch of bonuses: Alex Erro: $125,000 Jake Herbert: $125,000 Joe Davis: $5,000 Dylan Spacke: $75,000 Dom D'Alessandro: $10,000 Dean Miller: $5,000 Brandon Walter: $35,000 Devon Roedahl: $25,000 Luke Bandy: $75,000 Erro getting 125K is interesting. Guess it doesn't really matter if it doesn't go over the cap, but you generally don't see many college guys get the full 125K IIRC. Dylan Hardy, Chase Shugart, Garrett Benge and Kutter Crawford got 125K as juniors after round 10.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 20, 2019 17:59:15 GMT -5
Also at his Instagram:
"Daniel Bakst USA Baseball Alum | Stanford Baseball | Boston Red Sox"
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 20, 2019 18:30:24 GMT -5
Song had said in that article that he wanted to sign this week, right? Anybody have any info on that? Or Scroggins? I believe there was a mention somewhere that the Navy was reviewing the terms of a contract and would make a decision this week. It's unclear if the dollar amount is part of that or just the terms of the contract in general.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 20, 2019 18:47:17 GMT -5
Erro getting 125K is interesting. Guess it doesn't really matter if it doesn't go over the cap, but you generally don't see many college guys get the full 125K IIRC. Dylan Hardy, Chase Shugart, Garrett Benge and Kutter Crawford got 125K as juniors after round 10. Alright yeah, I guess that would've been pretty easy to find out on my own. Thanks for the info.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 20, 2019 19:31:17 GMT -5
Based solely on rankings, the next three best players left after Keane at #11 are picks 37, 38 & 39 before we get into the 12-16 range.
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 20, 2019 20:01:21 GMT -5
I am totally surprised that Bakst signed. He definitely could be a huge talent, especially if he's motivated. After they drafted him I thought he was one of the longest shots to sign.
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Post by borisman on Jun 21, 2019 9:12:40 GMT -5
Based solely on rankings, the next three best players left after Keane at #11 are picks 37, 38 & 39 before we get into the 12-16 range. The staff here should really consider highlighting (in pink?) the players that have already declared they will not sign (like picks 37, 38. 39). It's noted on the "predictions" posts as "projected not to sign" but for those that click on draft history page and see highly rated prospects without any info might hold out hope. Let's help crush those hopes.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 21, 2019 10:25:34 GMT -5
Based solely on rankings, the next three best players left after Keane at #11 are picks 37, 38 & 39 before we get into the 12-16 range. The staff here should really consider highlighting (in pink?) the players that have already declared they will not sign (like picks 37, 38. 39). It's noted on the "predictions" posts as "projected not to sign" but for those that click on draft history page and see highly rated prospects without any info might hold out hope. Let's help crush those hopes. I googled all three and saw nowhere where they declared post-draft that they would not sign, only places that said they were unlikely to sign. Improbable but so wasn't Bakst.
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Post by coachmac on Jun 21, 2019 10:51:21 GMT -5
Prielipp has said hes goingto Ala. Check the 2d post onthis thread.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 21, 2019 11:02:39 GMT -5
Also at his Instagram: "Daniel Bakst USA Baseball Alum | Stanford Baseball | Boston Red Sox" He also posted a pic on his Instagram story signing a contract. I'm really really loving this draft considering the limitations that our front office dealt with.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 21, 2019 11:04:17 GMT -5
Prielipp has said hes goingto Ala. Check the 2d post onthis thread. The quote referenced there appears to have been made before the draft as reported here: www.news8000.com/sports/tomah-s-connor-prielipp-drafted-by-red-sox-likely-to-honor-commitment-to-alabama/1083942753" After Tomah's sectional final loss Tuesday, News 8 Sports asked the Gatorade Player of the Year about his mindset concerning his future. Prielipp said he was not thinking about potentially being drafted, and that he was excited to compete in the "best conference in college baseball" at Alabama this upcoming season. " ADD: Just to be clear, I'm not saying I expect the Sox to sign any of the three, just saying I wouldn't be shocked either if they did.
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