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Post by bluechip on Jun 26, 2019 17:55:09 GMT -5
I am not sure how the late innings situation is fixed. Matt Barnes has been worked hard and he honestly looks burned out, with his walks up and BABIP up aswell.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 26, 2019 17:56:46 GMT -5
Basically Barnes is higher in the bullpen hierarchy so he wasn't going to do that with Barnes as opposed to Brewer. I get that. But it was pretty obvious that Barnes wasn't going to win the war today. He faced two batters who made solid contact against him and he could not put Abreu away. It was an accident waiting to happen. Honestly, he could have put Workman in and it still might not have worked out. My issue is less with Cora and more with the late inning options he has. Well yeah, he coulda put Mariano Rivera's bionic clone out there and it might not have worked out. That's baseball. But it's well documented in the last couple pages of this thread that Barnes has not been doing well when pitching on consecutive days. So maybe put in the guy with the 1.70 ERA instead? Or... anyone else, really? I'm not going to wade too deep into this argument. I can see both sides of the argument honestly. The Red Sox need a designated 9th inning guy so they're not playing reliever roulette every freaking time they carry a narrow lead in the 9th inning, the kind of guy you're not debating about pulling with a 3-2 count or worried that he can't go back-to-back days without being lit up. I don't believe in the "magic" of a closer necessarily but I think the bullpen situation is a bit chaotic. It's like they have this body walking around without the head. I do think the Sox need a go-to guy, and I'm not happy that they're in this situation. It's not the first time I've seen the Sox feel compelled to get a closer. I remember the Sox dealing Frankie Rodriguez for Rick Aguilera in 1995 when it was obvious that Ken Ryan wasn't cutting it and that Stan Belinda was better off as the 8th inning guy than the closer. They're kind of in that situation. Unless they're willing to audition Brandon Workman as the guy who protects the narrow leads late in the game, it's going to come from outside of the organization.
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Post by coachmac on Jun 26, 2019 18:04:56 GMT -5
I am not sure how the late innings situation is fixed. Matt Barnes has been worked hard and he honestly looks burned out, with his walks up and BABIP up aswell. Pray that Eovaldi and Hembree get healthy soon and that they pitch well when they return.
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Post by wildcardwillie on Jun 26, 2019 18:36:35 GMT -5
This makes me miss Koji so bad, that mofo was money.
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Post by wildcardwillie on Jun 26, 2019 18:43:45 GMT -5
Ok, look about the changing in the middle of the at bat, ideally after the first 2 hits, I felt like Barnes def wasnt good barnes today. Big warning sign for me when a guy is ahead and cant put people away. However, I would not be afraid to make a change in mid at bat, gives the batter a break and a different look, you only have to make 1 pitch there and it still may not work. As for embarrassing someone, he is a professional athlete, if one of us dont do our job someone else will. The last thing I'm worried about are his feelings, and I'm not saying this is Barnes fault, the guy has pitched A LOT!
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jun 26, 2019 19:10:19 GMT -5
Fixing the pen is only one piece to solving this season. Lack of depth (Nunez should not be getting so many starts and critical at bats), poor situational hitting (failures with RISP), and poor game openings on offense...and erratic starting pitching...all need improvement.
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Post by jimmydugan on Jun 26, 2019 19:12:45 GMT -5
This makes me miss Koji so bad, that mofo was money. I'm not arguing that Barnes>Koji, this just prompted me to do a couple seconds of research.. Barnes' FIP- is 54, which would rank as Koji's 2nd best in a Sox uni. Although to be fair, I'm assuming that's not including today. I don't know if that's necessarily the best stat to compare relievers across different periods. I'm just saying that Barnes is a lot better than most people give him credit for and it's been good to see him improving consistently year-to-year since he became a reliever. But yeah, i miss Koji.
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Post by wildcardwillie on Jun 26, 2019 19:17:58 GMT -5
This makes me miss Koji so bad, that mofo was money. I'm not arguing that Barnes>Koji, this just prompted me to do a couple seconds of research.. Barnes' FIP- is 54, which would rank as Koji's 2nd best in a Sox uni. Although to be fair, I'm assuming that's not including today. I don't know if that's necessarily the best stat to compare relievers across different periods. I'm just saying that Barnes is a lot better than most people give him credit for and it's been good to see him improving consistently year-to-year since he became a reliever. But yeah, i miss Koji. Seemed like so many easy appearances with him got people out and threw strikes!
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 26, 2019 20:28:02 GMT -5
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 26, 2019 20:36:15 GMT -5
They should have added 1 coach seat just for Nunez.
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Post by dirtdog on Jun 26, 2019 21:12:01 GMT -5
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Post by wildcardwillie on Jun 26, 2019 21:27:21 GMT -5
They should have added 1 coach seat just for Nunez. LOL!
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Post by hammerhead on Jun 26, 2019 21:57:52 GMT -5
I wonder if that 500,000 could have been used on a reliever for the remainder of the season? Good thing airfare doesn't effect the luxury tax
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Post by Coreno on Jun 26, 2019 22:59:15 GMT -5
I wonder if that 500,000 could have been used on a reliever for the remainder of the season? Good thing airfare doesn't effect the luxury tax Guess that settles the "cheap owner" discussion.
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Post by kingstephanos on Jun 26, 2019 23:15:50 GMT -5
That's great that Sale is doing this in Boston, as he may catch Koufax. But the absurdity of Johnson's record (10+) strikeout/game total is almost unreal in comparison.
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Post by patford on Jun 27, 2019 11:25:33 GMT -5
How is it Nolan Ryan is not on that graphic ? The record book says he had 215 10+ games.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 27, 2019 11:33:08 GMT -5
How is it Nolan Ryan is not on that graphic ? The record book says he had 215 10+ games. Nolan Ryan is not on the list because he was a righthanded pitcher. Those pitchers listed are lefties only - or as it says in the last line of the description of the list.
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Post by patford on Jun 27, 2019 21:18:11 GMT -5
How is it Nolan Ryan is not on that graphic ? The record book says he had 215 10+ games. Nolan Ryan is not on the list because he was a righthanded pitcher. Those pitchers listed are lefties only - or as it says in the last line of the description of the list. My bad. I only looked at the graphic which didn't mention "lefties."
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Post by bluechip on Jun 28, 2019 8:17:43 GMT -5
That’s a ton of airline miles.
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