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6/24-6/26 Red Sox vs. White Sox Series Thread
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 24, 2019 9:02:00 GMT -5
6/24 Red Sox (LHP Eduardo Rodriguez 8-4, 4.71, 86.0 IP, 93K:25BB) vs. White Sox (RHP Lucas Giolito 10-2, 2.74, 85.1 IP, 104K:29BB) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 6/25 Red Sox (LHP David Price 4-2, 3.39. 66.1 IP, 73K:15BB) vs. White Sox (TBA) 7:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 6/26 Red Sox (LHP Chris Sale 3-7, 3.59, 95.1 IP, 138K:23BB) vs. White Sox (RHP Reynaldo Lopez 4-7, 6.23, 86.2 IP, 80K:37BB) 1:05 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsA note regarding moderating of the gameday threads in 2019: As the disclaimer has always said, in the past, we have been very liberal in moderating the Gameday threads. They're meant to be a lot less formal than other threads on the forum, so to moderate them the same way would be silly. However, we do ask posters to maintain a certain level of decorum in these threads, and we plan on moderating the Gameday threads a little more actively this season. In particular, we ask that posters refrain from being overly repetitive with their posts (if you've made your point, let it go), refrain from monopolizing the discussion (if you are making more than a couple posts in a row, you probably need to slow down a little bit), and of course, follow the Ground Rules ( link). The point is to make these threads worth participating in and fun for all posters, from our long-time fixtures to people just signing up today. -The Management
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Post by soxfanatic on Jun 24, 2019 9:31:33 GMT -5
Win two, steal one.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 24, 2019 9:44:40 GMT -5
Coming at this from the other perspective, the Red Sox are a good test for Giolito, who had really been cruising and pitching his best ball as a pro, but got roughed up his last time out. It's also a very RHB/Switch-hitter heavy White Sox lineup. Dangerous series.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 24, 2019 10:23:12 GMT -5
This is a weird series. They win this series then they continue to push down a pretender with a sub-.500 record. They lose this series and they lose against a team in the hunt. The Sox are the better team and have Sale and Price at home. No reason to not win 2 out of 3. White Sox have a run differential of -62. They're not good.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 24, 2019 10:27:00 GMT -5
They win this series then they continue to push down a pretender with a sub-.500 record. They lose this series and they lose against a team in the hunt. I mean, shouldn't this pair of sentences cause you to rethink and retire this whole dichotomy you've been pushing of pretenders and contenders? The White Sox are a dangerous team, whether they finish with 78 or 83 wins. They'd need a lot of luck to make the playoffs but they're also going to win a fair number of series and cause headaches. They have some matchup nightmares and Giolito seems like he's taken a step forward. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 24, 2019 11:03:44 GMT -5
They win this series then they continue to push down a pretender with a sub-.500 record. They lose this series and they lose against a team in the hunt. I mean, shouldn't this pair of sentences cause you to rethink and retire this whole dichotomy you've been pushing of pretenders and contenders? The White Sox are a dangerous team, whether they finish with 78 or 83 wins. They'd need a lot of luck to make the playoffs but they're also going to win a fair number of series and cause headaches. They have some matchup nightmares and Giolito seems like he's taken a step forward. Not necessarily, their run differential is pretty horrid, they have a TBA announced against Price and Lopez has been bad going against Sale. They're outperforming their expected W-L, which is already under .500. Can the numbers fluctuate and skew data and stats? Sure. I just think when you play a 24 win team you're going to win more often than not because they're not beating anyone to begin with. Bad teams are bad teams. Edit: I also refuse to believe that being at home isn't advantageous. Though this year's team is putting that to the test. Giolito is the one I really worry about and why I'm ok with 2 out of 3. It'd be nice if they could beat a good pitcher. |
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Post by Guidas on Jun 24, 2019 11:06:58 GMT -5
All about this every series. |
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Post by Guidas on Jun 24, 2019 11:10:39 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jun 24, 2019 11:17:36 GMT -5
I'll be interested to watch Eloy Jimenez. Should be a good one for years to come.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Jun 24, 2019 13:45:58 GMT -5
The Sox are one game out of the second wildcard with Cleveland and 2 losses back in the loss column. They are a half game out of Texas and one game back in the loss column. It's still too early, but if you're 3-5 games out in the last week of July in the wild card race, then he'd have a point. This is the problem with the AL. It's hard to compete in the AL when the other teams in other divisions are competing versus dogfood and the Sox are in the AL East competing against Tampa and New York constantly. The next month will tell you everything you need to know about selling versus buying. If they are game up or a game down more or less in July, you probably have to buy. If you start treading water for the next month, you have to entertain it. |
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Post by incandenza on Jun 24, 2019 16:45:26 GMT -5
"It may not be a fair narrative," he says, "but the season will be considered a failure if they don't win the World Series." You're literally writing the narrative, my man! Just write a fair one! I hate when reporters do that. |
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 24, 2019 17:24:51 GMT -5
The Sox are one game out of the second wildcard with Cleveland and 2 losses back in the loss column. They are a half game out of Texas and one game back in the loss column. It's still too early, but if you're 3-5 games out in the last week of July in the wild card race, then he'd have a point. This is the problem with the AL. It's hard to compete in the AL when the other teams in other divisions are competing versus dogfood and the Sox are in the AL East competing against Tampa and New York constantly. The next month will tell you everything you need to know about selling versus buying. If they are game up or a game down more or less in July, you probably have to buy. If you start treading water for the next month, you have to entertain it. True but you also get a lot of games with Toronto and Baltimore (not that playing home games vs Toronto helped any). Fact of the matter is that if they play well enough they'll be in the wild card game. If they don't then they didn't deserve it anyways. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jun 24, 2019 17:27:05 GMT -5
The Sox are one game out of the second wildcard with Cleveland and 2 losses back in the loss column. They are a half game out of Texas and one game back in the loss column. It's still too early, but if you're 3-5 games out in the last week of July in the wild card race, then he'd have a point. This is the problem with the AL. It's hard to compete in the AL when the other teams in other divisions are competing versus dogfood and the Sox are in the AL East competing against Tampa and New York constantly. The next month will tell you everything you need to know about selling versus buying. If they are game up or a game down more or less in July, you probably have to buy. If you start treading water for the next month, you have to entertain it. True but you also get a lot of games with Toronto and Baltimore (not that playing home games vs Toronto helped any). Fact of the matter is that if they play well enough they'll be in the wild card game. If they don't then they didn't deserve it anyways. That's not really fair. If you're Cleveland you have a lot of games against the Royals, Tigers, and Chi Sox. |
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Post by Guidas on Jun 24, 2019 18:25:08 GMT -5
Is Marco in the doghouse? Why is Nuñez starting at 2nd against a (nasty) right-hander?
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Post by cdj on Jun 24, 2019 18:25:59 GMT -5
Is Marco in the doghouse? Why is Nuñez starting at 2nd against a (nasty) right-hander? because we don’t deserve nice things |
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Post by kevfc89 on Jun 24, 2019 18:37:46 GMT -5
Moncada...that figures
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Post by soxfan511 on Jun 24, 2019 18:42:11 GMT -5
ugh Moncada. I know he struck out a lot, but I always thought he had freakish talent and a very high ceiling. The way he's playing this year, he's on his way to reaching that. Definite All Star.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jun 24, 2019 18:44:14 GMT -5
Oooh! Jackie! Making the world a better place one home run at a time.
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Post by cheers on Jun 24, 2019 18:46:47 GMT -5
ugh Moncada. I know he struck out a lot, but I always thought he had freakish talent and a very high ceiling. The way he's playing this year, he's on his way to reaching that. Definite All Star. In hindsight, I'd still make the Sale/Moncada trade over and over again, but a young 2019 infield of Moncada, Xander, and Devers is tantalizing. All three are likely to get better... |
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jun 24, 2019 18:51:30 GMT -5
Is Marco in the doghouse? Why is Nuñez starting at 2nd against a (nasty) right-hander? because we don’t deserve nice things I know you’re just kidding, but here’s a few nice things we have... 2004 2007 2013 2018 Pedro Ted Yaz The goldust twins Arod got punched in the face Sale Pedey as the ROY Pedey as the MVP Mookie as the MVP Clemens Johnny Pesky Cy Porcello 108 wins and only three playoff losses Fenway Park a fan base as good as there is in pro sports an insanely good prospect site |
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Post by bosox on Jun 24, 2019 18:51:49 GMT -5
ugh Moncada. I know he struck out a lot, but I always thought he had freakish talent and a very high ceiling. The way he's playing this year, he's on his way to reaching that. Definite All Star. In hindsight, I'd still make the Sale/Moncada trade over and over again, but a young 2019 infield of Moncada, Xander, and Devers is tantalizing. All three are likely to get better... Not sure Moncada would be able to unseat Nunez at second base. |
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Post by cheers on Jun 24, 2019 18:53:14 GMT -5
In hindsight, I'd still make the Sale/Moncada trade over and over again, but a young 2019 infield of Moncada, Xander, and Devers is tantalizing. All three are likely to get better... Not sure Moncada would be able to unseat Nunez at second base. True. No discernable intangibles that I'm aware of. |
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Post by soxfan511 on Jun 24, 2019 19:06:29 GMT -5
In hindsight, I'd still make the Sale/Moncada trade over and over again, but a young 2019 infield of Moncada, Xander, and Devers is tantalizing. All three are likely to get better... Not sure Moncada would be able to unseat Nunez at second base. HAHA!!! Comedy Gold |
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Post by Guidas on Jun 24, 2019 19:19:55 GMT -5
This team is full of brain farts lately.
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jun 24, 2019 19:20:08 GMT -5
I hate the phrase tootblan, but it might never apply more this season.
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