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7/2-7/4 Red Sox @ Blue Jays Series Thread
Smittyw
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Post by Smittyw on Jul 2, 2019 21:33:13 GMT -5
lets win 6 in a row before the ASG and then we gonna break out the heavy artillary for the 2nd half. This spit has just begun. You just know Mookie is going to explode at some point, and JDM is going to go on one of those tears where he hits like 20+ home runs in 2 months. We have not yet begun to fight.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 2, 2019 21:40:39 GMT -5
What's funny is that the Red Sox get no credit for winning this game and the Yankees get no credit for losing their game because the teams they played had the wrong records.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 2, 2019 21:43:38 GMT -5
Great win, important win, and entertaining win. Benny still looks pretty bad, but otherwise off we go - doing it one win at a time - particularly those wins that we should be getting. Would be nice to go into the AS break on a bit of a streak, and a few games shaved off the MFY's lead.
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Post by cdj on Jul 2, 2019 22:12:10 GMT -5
to be fair....he also got absolutely screwed by the ump on Sogard called 3rd strike. If it’s the pitch I’m thinking of it was definitely a strike but it was nowhere near the mitt. When the catcher has to reach like that the umpire is unlikely going to call it if it’s borderline
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Post by soxfan511 on Jul 2, 2019 22:17:17 GMT -5
Devers and Bogaerts not all stars? 😂LOL thanks for the laugh mlb
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 2, 2019 22:58:21 GMT -5
Nice win against one of the dregs of the league.
Devers was awesome. Could come down to a 2 man race for the batting title between LeMahieu and Devers.
Price was solid as he has been pretty much all year.
Kelley was rather unimpressive in his debut. I guess he could be a very poor man's Pat Neshek, like extremely poor man's Neshek. I'm going to guess that Kelley is going to be temporary on this roster.
The Red Sox gained a game on the Yankees tonight - not that it really matters at this point. More importantly perhaps they picked up a game on the Wild Card leaders.
I would guess that the Sox could win at least 2 of 3 or even sweep the Jays as they've been pretty successful playing bad teams on the road.
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Post by patford on Jul 3, 2019 0:04:39 GMT -5
Ottaviano giving up.....the MFY's are dicks. Ottavino has been leaned on heavily. He's due for a total collapse. The Yankee bullpen will be a shambles by the end of the year.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 3, 2019 0:04:44 GMT -5
My thoughts about this... Kelley is around just to give the pen an extended break. They have to do that to keep from burning guys out. The starters were so marginal to begin the year, and well into it, that they've really put a load on the relievers. A blowout gives them that opportunity, and Kelley a chance to gauge where he's at also.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 3, 2019 1:47:51 GMT -5
What's funny is that the Red Sox get no credit for winning this game and the Yankees get no credit for losing their game because the teams they played had the wrong records. They get credit for doing what they should be doing against bad teams. The Yankees have proven they can beat anyone and have a commanding lead in the division. The Red Sox have failed miserably against winning teams. Considering the Yankees are 5.5 on the division and 10 over you, I don't think anyone will care what games they lose until the gap closes up. I'm sure if the Red Sox were 6 games closer people might mind that they lost to the lowly Mets. It really blows my mind that people think that beating the Blue Jays is the same as beating the Dodgers. Yes, in terms of W-L it does, but they're a sub-.500 team for a reason. They wouldn't be 32-54 if they were a good team with a lot of talent. You should win these games more often than not just by the simple fact of who they are. I've posted W-L of all the contenders against sub-.500 teams and everyone, except the Athletics, had similar, outstanding numbers against. Every time this team runs into a quality opponent they fall flat on their face. It's no coincidence that all the divisional leaders have a winning record against winning teams except for the Brewers and the Braves. The reason they don't is because literally no one other than the Dodgers have that in the NL and they have the best record in baseball. In fact, percentage wise, every team ahead of the Red Sox right now have a better record against winning teams. They've won 1 series (2 out of 3) against a winning team since early May. They've had plenty of opportunities. We'll see if that trend continues, but literally it's their ability to feast on terrible teams that's kept them in the hunt and their ineptitude against better competition that's prevented them from securing the Wild Card. In the London thread even when they were getting their brains beat in I still stuck with the fact they were going to riffle through the garbage. Right now it's about maintaining and continuing to do what's expected of you (take 2 out of 3) against trash and we'll see again against LAD before the gauntlet of TB and NYY. I hope they can beat the Dodgers, Rays, and Yankees. They haven't really shown it yet. On a side note: TB, LAA, Oakland, and Cleveland all won today while only the Yankees (10 up) and Rangers lost.
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Post by gerry on Jul 3, 2019 4:12:30 GMT -5
2....We know, we know, we know. You are preaching to the choir, incessently. I wish your sermons did not make being a fan a mortal sin, or hope a folly. Baseball is a game, to be enjoyed with pretzels and hot dogs and beer, or even ham and cheese on a baguette with hard apple cider. Key word: enjoy!
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 3, 2019 6:19:55 GMT -5
2....We know, we know, we know. You are preaching to the choir, incessently. I wish your sermons did not make being a fan a mortal sin, or hope a folly. Baseball is a game, to be enjoyed with pretzels and hot dogs and beer, or even ham and cheese on a baguette with hard apple cider. Key word: enjoy! Indeed! Last night some leftover BBQ. Night time baseball leads to lots of scrounging and scavenging! 😀
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Post by Guidas on Jul 3, 2019 9:59:41 GMT -5
2....We know, we know, we know. You are preaching to the choir, incessently. I wish your sermons did not make being a fan a mortal sin, or hope a folly. Baseball is a game, to be enjoyed with pretzels and hot dogs and beer, or even ham and cheese on a baguette with hard apple cider. Key word: enjoy! Indeed! Last night some leftover BBQ. Night time baseball leads to lots of scrounging and scavenging! 😀 Eastern or Western style?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 3, 2019 10:07:21 GMT -5
2....We know, we know, we know. You are preaching to the choir, incessently. I wish your sermons did not make being a fan a mortal sin, or hope a folly. Baseball is a game, to be enjoyed with pretzels and hot dogs and beer, or even ham and cheese on a baguette with hard apple cider. Key word: enjoy! Indeed! Last night some leftover BBQ. Night time baseball leads to lots of scrounging and scavenging! 😀 The AL Eats.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 3, 2019 11:18:37 GMT -5
Rafael Devers since 4/15: .347/.389/.601
Rafael Devers since moving to second in the batting order (5 games): .609/.609/1.130
Interesting that he hasn't started taking more walks with the way he's been hitting. I guess if you can hit a ball 6 inches off the plate for an opposite-field home run you just go ahead and do it.
ADD: I think you'd have to say he's clearly this team's second-most fearsome hitter after... JBJ (.328/.423/.634 since 5/20).
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 3, 2019 12:02:11 GMT -5
No matter how badly he starts his season, and it can be horrific, Bradley always maintains a relatively high OBP. So when the hitting and slugging do kick in, the OPS can climb into respectable territory quickly. He revved it up a little earlier this year. If he keeps it up he might make it to .800+ before it's over. Who wudda thunk it.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2019 12:02:58 GMT -5
No matter how badly he starts his season, and it can be horrific, Bradley always maintains a relatively high OBP. So when the hitting and slugging do kick in, the OPS can climb into respectable territory quickly. He revved it up a little earlier this year. If he keeps it up he might make it to .800+ before it's over. Who wudda thunk it. If he doesn't slow down, it'll be a few weeks before he's over .800.
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Post by kingstephanos on Jul 3, 2019 13:07:10 GMT -5
No matter how badly he starts his season, and it can be horrific, Bradley always maintains a relatively high OBP. So when the hitting and slugging do kick in, the OPS can climb into respectable territory quickly. He revved it up a little earlier this year. If he keeps it up he might make it to .800+ before it's over. Who wudda thunk it. Norm, I'm curious what you would do with JBJ in the long term. Present him with the qualifying offer at the end of his rookie contract? Trade him? etc. It will definitely be interesting seeing what the front office does in this regard.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 3, 2019 13:25:36 GMT -5
No matter how badly he starts his season, and it can be horrific, Bradley always maintains a relatively high OBP. So when the hitting and slugging do kick in, the OPS can climb into respectable territory quickly. He revved it up a little earlier this year. If he keeps it up he might make it to .800+ before it's over. Who wudda thunk it. Norm, I'm curious what you would do with JBJ in the long term. Present him with the qualifying offer at the end of his rookie contract? Trade him? etc. It will definitely be interesting seeing what the front office does in this regard. Me personally, I suggest treating his averages of his seasons totals as the player he is. As much as he helps when he's on, he's equally damaging when he's off. If he starts the first 2 months hitting a .500 OPS and the next 2 hitting 1.200, you treat him as the average between the 4 months. I'd offer him an extension to something that makes sense for both parties.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 3, 2019 13:32:12 GMT -5
I'd let JBJ play out his contract and give him a qualifying offer and really, really hope Duran conquers AA next season and is on track to take over CF in 2021.
I wouldn't extend him because it puts more pressure on his bats as he ages because his calling card is defense and that is not likely to improve as he gets beyond 30 years old.
I'd rather the Sox save their money for Betts and even JDM if need be.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 3, 2019 13:33:45 GMT -5
Part of me thinks that JBJ will be a great bat and an average corner OF by the time he's in his mid 30s.
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Post by coachmac on Jul 3, 2019 13:53:11 GMT -5
I believe Jbj's defense may not regress as much as many of the speedier golden glove centerfielders we've seen in the past because he relies more on reads and routes than pure speed. If he can establish that his bat improvement is real, I can see keeping him on an extension. However, he may be one of our more valuable trade chips if other clubs believe in his bat.
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Post by mattpicard on Jul 3, 2019 13:57:09 GMT -5
I believe Jbj's defense may not regress as much as many of the speedier golden glove centerfielders we've seen in the past because he relies more on reads and routes than pure speed. If he can establish that his bat improvement is real, I can see keeping him on an extension. However, he may be one of our more valuable trade chips if other clubs believe in his bat. Maybe, maybe not. We've seen guys like Torii Hunter -- who wasn't a gold glover because of his speed -- go from being elite center fielders to horrible corner outfielders as they age. Point being, JBJ may always retain great non-speed qualities as an outfielder, but his range could still decline enough render him a below average or poor outfielder.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 3, 2019 14:16:12 GMT -5
Indeed! Last night some leftover BBQ. Night time baseball leads to lots of scrounging and scavenging! 😀 Eastern or Western style? Western preference. Vinegar and hot pepper flakes do not a BBQ sauce make! Nearby restaurant City BBQ has my ideal. These words are heresy for many here in NC!
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Post by chrisfromnc on Jul 3, 2019 14:44:45 GMT -5
Eastern or Western style? Western preference. Vinegar and hot pepper flakes do not a BBQ sauce make! Nearby restaurant City BBQ has my ideal. These words are heresy for many here in NC! BBQ in general could be its own thread in Off Topic. The various Carolina BBQ permutations could easily end up in the Throwdown forum.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 3, 2019 15:03:26 GMT -5
Xander is an all-star... Announced on Red Sox twitter. Replacement
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